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Title: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 10, 2020, 09:57:32 PM
Weep NL fans
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on May 11, 2020, 06:57:16 AM
#checkmate
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2020, 07:41:56 AM
RIP strategery
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on May 11, 2020, 09:51:44 AM
its only for 2020 and only if they get stuck doing regional divisions mixing al/nl teams, to level the playing field for the woefully inept al

its still freaking stupid and gayer than all of you faggots
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on May 11, 2020, 09:56:41 AM
the worst part about this is that this is just another load of excrement manfred is trying to cram down our throats.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2020, 11:15:30 AM


its only for 2020

Suuuure
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on May 11, 2020, 11:26:56 AM
shut up i hate manfred :(
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2020, 11:48:17 AM
Nobody is gonna miss pitchers taking at bats once it's gone.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 11, 2020, 12:18:15 PM
its only for 2020 and only if they get stuck doing regional divisions mixing al/nl teams, to level the playing field for the woefully inept al

its still freaking stupid and gayer than all of you faggots

Weep
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 11, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
Nobody is gonna miss pitchers taking at bats once it's gone.

I’m gonna tell my kids that the double switch was the greatest thing this game has ever seen
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: delavan on May 11, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
I’m gonna tell my kids that the double switch was the greatest thing this game has ever seen
- Aristotle
- Plato
- La Russa
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2020, 02:55:36 PM
I’m gonna tell my kids that the double switch was the greatest thing this game has ever seen
They won't know what baseball is since we'll be in year 7 of quarantine by the time you've said this
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Miamipuck on May 11, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
Thought it was DP, glad its not.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Johnny English on May 11, 2020, 04:52:23 PM
Thought it was DP, glad its not.

Still sore from the last time?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Miamipuck on May 11, 2020, 11:24:06 PM
Still sore from the last time?

(https://i1.wp.com/www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/triple-penetration-for-dummies.jpg?w=640&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on May 12, 2020, 03:11:43 PM
Thought it was DP, glad its not.

its basically the same.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on May 12, 2020, 09:43:25 PM
freak the coronavirus

But at least it fixed baseball
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on June 17, 2020, 07:24:53 PM
MLB offer includes universal DH for not just 2020, but 2021 too. It also includes on top of 100 pct prorated salary for 60 games, a $25M postseason pool.

-Joel Sherman


Weep NL fans
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on June 17, 2020, 07:30:42 PM
MLB offer includes universal DH for not just 2020, but 2021 too. It also includes on top of 100 pct prorated salary for 60 games, a $25M postseason pool.

-Joel Sherman
Take the deal
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on June 17, 2020, 10:46:44 PM
terrible. just terrible.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on June 18, 2020, 08:08:17 AM
terrible. just terrible.

drink it in, homie
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 01, 2020, 04:13:42 PM
Weep NL fans
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 03, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Just wondering how wrong league fans are enjoying interesting baseball.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 03, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
Just wondering how wrong league fans are enjoying interesting baseball.

as a fan of an NL team who was always indifferent, never 'anti', regarding the NL getting the DH, I can tell you that getting the DH has done nothing to make the mets anything other than a mediocre to below average team with the worst ownership group and GM in the league. i don't feel any different, it's still the same crap
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on August 04, 2020, 07:58:09 AM
as a fan of an NL team who was always indifferent, never 'anti', regarding the NL getting the DH, I can tell you that getting the DH has done nothing to make the mets anything other than a mediocre to below average team with the worst ownership group and GM in the league. i don't feel any different, it's still the same crap
That's a lot of words to say "I don't miss seeing pitchers hit."
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on August 04, 2020, 07:58:22 AM
Just wondering how wrong league fans are enjoying interesting baseball.
The DH is Marxist
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on August 04, 2020, 12:44:21 PM
its stupid. i'd rather see the giants pitchers hit than the assemblage of excrement we've trotted out so far in dh.

i hate it

but hey, at least we get to see the dodgers trot out another free agent
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on August 04, 2020, 03:41:53 PM
its stupid. i'd rather see the giants pitchers hit than the assemblage of excrement we've trotted out so far in dh.

i hate it

but hey, at least we get to see the dodgers trot out another free agent
That's a lot of words to say "my team sucks"
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 04, 2020, 05:57:43 PM
lol, 2 for 2
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 10, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
RIP strategery

This about sums it up. Late innings are a lot less interesting this way.

I do use it for my daughter's softball team.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 10, 2020, 02:28:55 PM
its stupid. i'd rather see the giants pitchers hit than the assemblage of excrement we've trotted out so far in dh.

i hate it

but hey, at least we get to see the dodgers trot out another free agent

We must crush you.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 21, 2020, 10:00:40 PM
I can see why Yankees fans have always been so adamantly for the DH. If your team has money you just line up a row of hitters, a couple starters and a closer, it's real hard to lose. The Dodgers are almost unbeatable this way.

Not having to work the game around the 9 spot late in games makes your bench and most of your bullpen an afterthought. There's definitely an element of the game missing.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 23, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
The only element of the game missing is watching pitchers flail at fastballs right down the middle and balls in the dirt
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 23, 2020, 02:56:43 PM
The only element of the game missing is watching pitchers flail at fastballs right down the middle and balls in the dirt

Not at all. Pitchers account for usually 2 of a team's 40 or so at bats per game, especially in this era of the 5 or 6 inning starter. In exchange for those two at bats you remove strategy and the use of half your roster.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 24, 2020, 09:52:06 AM
Imagine making an argument that it's more fun to watch utility players pinch hit for a professional bunter rather than being able to watch a professional hitter crush fastballs
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 24, 2020, 10:23:35 AM
Imagine making an argument that it's more fun to watch utility players pinch hit for a professional bunter rather than being able to watch a professional hitter crush fastballs

Imagine obsessing on two at bats out of 40 where the batter has an 80% chance to make an out instead of a 75% chance, and dumbing down the whole game for it.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 25, 2020, 10:24:39 AM
IF ANY MORE TIME IS SPENT ARGUING ABOUT THE DH IM GONNA FCKIN LOSE IT
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 25, 2020, 12:36:48 PM
IF ANY MORE TIME IS SPENT ARGUING ABOUT THE DH IM GONNA FCKIN LOSE IT

Maybe don't read the thread someone made about a DH, in a forum named after the DH.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 25, 2020, 01:44:55 PM
Maybe don't read the thread someone made about a DH, in a forum named after the DH.

imagine a thread titled 'Universal DH' that actually talks about the status of how the universal DH experiment is going this year and isn't dominated by 'WAH WAH WAH THE DH SUCKS' vs 'WAH WAH WAH THE DH IS THE BEST' fuckassery
 
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on August 25, 2020, 02:22:49 PM
its still stupid as freak
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 25, 2020, 02:40:46 PM
imagine a thread titled 'Universal DH' that actually talks about the status of how the universal DH experiment is going this year and isn't dominated by 'WAH WAH WAH THE DH SUCKS' vs 'WAH WAH WAH THE DH IS THE BEST' fuckassery
 

I'm the only one who has made a point actually discussing it aside from the "PiTCheRs Can'T HiT" replies.

Since everyone seemed to miss it, I'll say it again. As a fan of a big money/big market team who is dominating their league (Dodgers), I've realized why Yankee fans have always been such adamant supporters of the DH. Rather than discuss that, two Yankee fans came in here to tell me pitchers can't hit and you came here to complain.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on August 25, 2020, 02:53:56 PM
In the 2012 postseason, Barry Zito faced Justin Verlander twice and had 1 RBI.

In the 2012/2013 postseasons, the Oakland A’s faced Justin Verlander 112 times and also had 1 RBI.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 25, 2020, 03:41:05 PM
In the 2012 postseason, Barry Zito faced Justin Verlander twice and had 1 RBI.

In the 2012/2013 postseasons, the Oakland A’s faced Justin Verlander 112 times and also had 1 RBI.


That's a good stat.

Some of them can hit, but to me that isn't the argument. I think the fact that you have that spot in the lineup to have to use your roster and make decisions for, it makes the game a lot more interesting from the 5th or 6th inning on. So many variables, it affects when you might use a pitcher if that spot is coming up, who is on your bench, what guys can come in and play different positions. It just adds a lot to the game.

If you're a Yankee fan and you've just been watching a lineup of mashers for the past 20 or 30 years, none of that probably ever occurred to you. You don't want to see a pitcher hit and the ripple effect of having that 9 spot in the order isn't something you've probably ever thought about. I see it now with the Dodgers and it's great for us, but I still think the game is missing a lot with the DH.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: bojanglesman on August 25, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
I grew up watching National League baseball, so I prefer no DH.  Mainly because it's what I like and I don't like change.  Different strokes for different folks.  Strategy vs. more offense.  I can understand both.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 12:16:05 PM
DH RULEZ
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 12:22:54 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/xCLhfPV/A6-F06493-2-D30-45-D9-AFA8-AE19-D8480117.png)

*Bows*
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on August 27, 2020, 12:27:32 PM
Haha
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
I, for one, welcome our new overlords who excel at hitting but can’t field for excrement.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 12:32:19 PM
Haha

I can’t imagine a world with baseball that exists without Dan Vogelbach


Or even worse, one where you have to watch him play the field
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 27, 2020, 12:41:57 PM
Pitching to 8 batters then an automatic out = strategy

Facing 9 professional hitters on repeat = dumbing down the game
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on August 27, 2020, 12:44:36 PM
I can’t imagine a world with baseball that exists without Dan Vogelbach


Or even worse, one where you have to watch him play the field
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/a3564837fd3d1c0180c6a8f58da36afd.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 27, 2020, 12:47:58 PM
Poor Seafood knows in his heart that the DH is so much better, but like so many belief-based attitudes, it's hard to give up what you cling to, even in the face of science. I just hope he continues to see the error of his ways and fully comes around to the truth.

The DH is objectively better for baseball. If you don't agree, well, everyone is allowed to be wrong sometimes, I guess.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 12:49:47 PM
Pitching to 8 batters then an automatic out = strategy

Facing 9 professional hitters on repeat = dumbing down the game

Wake me up when they pull the starting pitcher. I’m only here for the guy who gets one at bat every 4 games.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 27, 2020, 01:08:09 PM
The best you guys can come back with is cartoons and nonsense. Speaks volumes.

Poor Seafood knows in his heart that the DH is so much better, but like so many belief-based attitudes, it's hard to give up what you cling to, even in the face of science. I just hope he continues to see the error of his ways and fully comes around to the truth.

The DH is objectively better for baseball. If you don't agree, well, everyone is allowed to be wrong sometimes, I guess.

There's nothing objective about it. Again, as a Dodger fan I can see why the Yankee fans are so protective about this. Especially the ones whose knowledge of baseball consists of strutting around in T-shirts celebrating all of their titles from last century (like you helped). It takes almost no wisdom to just throw a bunch of money at a row of hitters and a couple of pitchers. I'm glad the Dodgers have wrapped up a playoff spot inside of three weeks, but it leaves a lot of the game very uninteresting. 
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on August 27, 2020, 03:30:24 PM
i'm a fan of an NL team and have never had a problem with the NL lacking the DH, and have never had issue with the AL having the DH. That being said, I think it's very cool and a nice changeup that we're currently in a time where the universal DH is a thing. let's see how it goes
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on August 27, 2020, 03:31:41 PM
i'm a fan of an NL team and have never had a problem with the NL lacking the DH, and have never had issue with the AL having the DH. That being said, I think it's very cool and a nice changeup that we're currently in a time where the universal DH is a thing. let's see how it goes
This post gave IS a stroke
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 27, 2020, 05:36:28 PM
This post gave IS a stroke

Wrong again, MB.

#KeepRex
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on August 27, 2020, 05:56:00 PM
Wrong again, MB.

#KeepRex
There’s always next time

#TradeRevis
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 08:59:20 PM
i'm a fan of an NL team and have never had a problem with the NL lacking the DH, and have never had issue with the AL having the DH. That being said, I think it's very cool and a nice changeup that we're currently in a time where the universal DH is a thing. let's see how it goes

I’ve always thought the correct format is AL with DH, NL without DH. I’ve said this many times. I prefer AL baseball, but the amount of times that I would have to watch the Yankees play NL style rules is very few and honestly a refreshing change of pace.  I would probably prefer NL rules if I grew up watching an NL team.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on August 27, 2020, 10:01:43 PM
I’ve always thought the correct format is AL with DH, NL without DH. I’ve said this many times. I prefer AL baseball, but the amount of times that I would have to watch the Yankees play NL style rules is very few and honestly a refreshing change of pace.  I would probably prefer NL rules if I grew up watching an NL team.
I would probably defend NJ if I grew up there but I'd be wrong
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 27, 2020, 10:49:40 PM
I would probably defend NJ if I grew up there but I'd be wrong

I’ve always supported giving NYC back to the indigenous population.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on August 27, 2020, 11:12:09 PM
I would probably defend NJ if I grew up there but I'd be wrong

Hahaha
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on August 28, 2020, 12:43:30 PM
its a fruitless fight because the mlbpa wants it and mlb wants it so its gonna happen.

it's still bullshit and just homogenizes the game. theres nothing differentiating the leagues now, so you may as well just put em all into 1 big shitshow league and invite the top 30 teams into your new expanded playoffs for more of the same thing we have now, but with implications
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on August 28, 2020, 02:11:59 PM
I feel so bad for people who want to watch pitchers bunt

Who hurt you?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on August 31, 2020, 03:04:20 PM
I’ve always supported giving NYC back to the indigenous population.

They might be able to just show up and claim it pretty soon.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on August 31, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
I feel so bad for people who want to watch pitchers bunt

Who hurt you?

This. All of this.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on August 31, 2020, 05:54:48 PM


Who hurt you?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=marx--001wil
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: mj2sexay on September 01, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
I feel so bad for people who want to watch pitchers bunt

Who hurt you?

What, you'd rather watch say Edwin Encarnacion up at bat than Tyler Bauer?!?!
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 01, 2020, 02:18:49 PM
What, you'd rather watch say Edwin Encarnacion up at bat than Tyler Bauer?!?!

They don't have an answer for anything I said and they don't even understand what it is they are against. So we're back to bad jokes and "pitchers can't hit". Brilliant analysis here.

It's kind of fun to watch my team sleepwalk and still play 700 ball, but hopefully full baseball returns next year.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 01, 2020, 02:23:53 PM
The overall point is that the things you are espousing as the virtues of keeping the DH out of the NL are things most fans don't care about.

Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 01, 2020, 02:26:15 PM
The overall point is that the things you are espousing as the virtues of keeping the DH out of the NL are things most fans don't care about.



Most AL fans, who don't know what it is because they've never seen it. Especially Yankee fans who can just buy a lineup and win most of their games, why change anything?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on September 01, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
Most AL fans, who don't know what it is because they've never seen it. Especially Yankee fans who can just buy a lineup and win most of their games, why change anything?
I've seen the Mets play plenty of times and never saw anything I wanted to incorporate
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 01, 2020, 03:09:06 PM
I've seen the Mets play plenty of times and never saw anything I wanted to incorporate

As a Mets fan, I support this statement.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 01, 2020, 03:58:42 PM
Most AL fans, who don't know what it is because they've never seen it. Especially Yankee fans who can just buy a lineup and win most of their games, why change anything?

The Dodgers payroll is publicly accessible information, let me know if you need help reading the numbers
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 01, 2020, 08:15:04 PM
Stockholm Syndrome

It's the only possible explanation
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Johnny English on September 01, 2020, 10:07:54 PM
The Dodgers payroll is publicly accessible information, let me know if you need help reading the numbers
Also I'm pretty sure that a starting pitcher who can hit consistently is going to cost a bunch more than a slugger who can't field.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 01, 2020, 10:42:49 PM
The Dodgers payroll is publicly accessible information, let me know if you need help reading the numbers

Ok. Did I say it wasn't? DH is great for the Dodgers and the Yankees, but it still dumbs down the game.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on September 01, 2020, 10:57:46 PM


DH is great

/thread
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 02, 2020, 07:44:56 AM
Glad we could all agree, that’s a 1st on this board.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on September 02, 2020, 07:54:31 AM
Glad we could all agree, that’s a 1st on this board.

I'm frightened
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2020, 07:57:31 AM
Glad we could all agree, that’s a 1st on this board.
freak the beach
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 02, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
You guys are funny.

So we've confirmed that there is no real argument for the DH, other than jokes and PiTcHeRs CaNt HiT.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on September 02, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
They should make QBs kick field goals

For strategery
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: bojanglesman on September 02, 2020, 02:16:00 PM
They should make QBs kick field goals

For strategery

If QBs were required to kick FG since football was invented, they'd be decent at it and we wouldn't have to waste a roster spot on a guy that everyone hates.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on September 02, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
The Dodgers already gave us Jackie Robinson

Now we want them to take on the DH too?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 02, 2020, 02:48:55 PM
If QBs were required to kick FG since football was invented, they'd be decent at it and we wouldn't have to waste a roster spot on a guy that everyone hates.

It actually used to be guys on the team, not a specialty. Pretty sure the Colts K in Super Bowl III was Lou Michaels, a big dumb lineman who kicked straight on and missed one or two.

Different than obsessing on a 5% out differential in 5% of the ABs in a baseball game, but this will serve as your history minute for the day.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 02, 2020, 03:25:29 PM
There's no argument against the DH. Offense sells the game more than defense.

Strategizing which of a handful of utility players goes into the game for one AB is the worst selling point I have ever read.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on September 02, 2020, 03:45:30 PM
There's no argument against the DH. Offense sells the game more than defense.

Strategizing which of a handful of utility players goes into the game for one AB is the worst selling point I have ever read.

At least someone gave it a try. The whole game gets more interesting from the 5th inning on because the benches and bullpens all come into play, managing the 9 spot around the game situation and available players.

I know, who wants to deal with strategy and thinking when you can just have a glorified home run derby for three hours?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 03:47:18 PM
As of now, the DH will be AL-only next season, I'm hearing. The union and MLB would have to expand it to both leagues through bargaining.

The NL sucks again
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 03:47:43 PM
Weep NL fans

somehow this still applies
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 22, 2020, 03:51:24 PM
Good news. As much fun as it's been for the Dodgers to play 700 ball on cruise control, it will be fun to get back to major league baseball again.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 22, 2020, 03:52:28 PM
i think the biggest thing going for the DH is that it allows you to continue to play that offensive-minded player who kind of sucks at defense while still trying to optimize your defensive potential.

kind of unfair for the super stacked teams who can field well-rounded players at all positions and still benefit from the extra dh player, but still. the dh would have been the perfect way for the mets to utilize somebody like cespedes. piece of excrement
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 22, 2020, 04:32:38 PM
I’m slowly running out of reasons to remain a Mets fan.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 22, 2020, 05:24:58 PM
I’m slowly running out of reasons to remain a Mets fan.

just give steve cohen 5 years
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
i think the biggest thing going for the DH is that it allows you to continue to play that offensive-minded player who kind of sucks at defense while still trying to optimize your defensive potential.

kind of unfair for the super stacked teams who can field well-rounded players at all positions and still benefit from the extra dh player, but still. the dh would have been the perfect way for the mets to utilize somebody like cespedes. piece of excrement

You are correct, but it should also benefit bad teams that need to get a middle of the order type bat in their lineup. DH guys are easy to come by.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 22, 2020, 09:15:16 PM
You are correct, but it should also benefit bad teams that need to get a middle of the order type bat in their lineup. DH guys are easy to come by.

if the DH had been present in the NL a few years earlier, we would have kept daniel murphy and he would have had that awesome 2016 season with us, and maybe we would have had a deeper run into the playoffs that year. 2015-2016 was the time for that team to win a title
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on October 22, 2020, 09:33:31 PM
awesome.

suck it bitchesssssss
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 09:49:39 PM
awesome.

suck it bitchesssssss

Lol isn’t Buster Posey under contract for Jacoby Ellsbury money
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on October 22, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
i accept that my team is saddled with terrible contracts and will continue to suck for a few more years.

the dh still freaking sucks
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 22, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
i accept that my team is saddled with terrible contracts and will continue to suck for a few more years.

the dh still freaking sucks

I would rather watch Posey get ABs than rot on the bench to end his career while my team sucks.

They’re not gonna play him over Bart, right?

Is Brandon Belt done anytime soon?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on October 22, 2020, 10:33:38 PM
awesome.

suck it bitchesssssss
Are the bitches the poor NL fans?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 23, 2020, 07:04:14 AM
Just when I had hope 2021 would be better than 2020.

Thoughts and prayers to my NL-watching friends out there.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 23, 2020, 07:47:48 AM
I would rather watch Posey get ABs than rot on the bench to end his career while my team sucks.

They’re not gonna play him over Bart, right?

Is Brandon Belt done anytime soon?

More guys get into the game without the DH because you need your bench a lot more often.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 24, 2020, 11:26:16 PM
More guys get into the game without the DH because you need your bench a lot more often.

That’s.. not factually true. The pitcher is taking AB’s away from “bench” guys every game.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on October 25, 2020, 09:30:32 AM
That’s.. not factually true. The pitcher is taking AB’s away from “bench” guys every game.

The way pitching staffs are managed now a pitcher takes 2 ABs per game, max. Past the 5th inning they hit for the pitcher in the NL too, they just don't give you a spot for it. That means you don't "rot on the bench" in the NL, more different bench guys get into most games. Your entire roster matters much more. If you use an opener like a lot of teams do now, the pitcher might not bat at all.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 25, 2020, 10:16:37 AM
Psst...you can pinch-hit a bench scrub for a DH. Pass it on.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2020, 09:28:53 AM
per @Buster_ESPN, “unless the MLB and players' union animus erupts to the point of complete dysfunction”, the NL will readopt the DH for 2021
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 09, 2020, 09:29:02 AM
Weep NL fans
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2020, 09:32:27 AM
per @Buster_ESPN, “unless the MLB and players' union animus erupts to the point of complete dysfunction”, the NL will readopt the DH for 2021
Logic prevails
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 09, 2020, 10:58:23 AM
So I can set my alarm for October for a meaningful Dodger game. Ok.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on November 09, 2020, 11:34:31 AM
this is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on November 09, 2020, 11:58:28 AM
Honestly, I love the Dodgers and I'm glad they won the World Series, but they shouldn't be able to play 700 ball on cruse control after giving away three starting pitchers and having another one opt out.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2020, 05:00:59 AM
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MLB instructed clubs in a memo last week to proceed under the assumption the DH will not be used in the NL this year, though few will complain if the league and union reach agreement to the contrary.

RIP Dodgers
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: AlioTheFool on December 08, 2020, 07:45:40 AM
First coronavirus, now this
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on December 08, 2020, 08:51:18 AM
finally some good freaking news
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: MBGreen on December 08, 2020, 10:07:07 AM
prrrrt
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2020, 10:36:36 AM
This is easily fixed though, the Dodgers can just name a pitcher as their DH if they want. That way their fans get to continue watching excrement batters and convincing themselves it's strategic.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Badger on December 08, 2020, 11:04:12 AM
Joe Kelly,DH?
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: IATA on December 08, 2020, 11:07:47 AM
This is easily fixed though, the Dodgers can just name a pitcher as their DH if they want. That way their fans get to continue watching excrement batters and convincing themselves it's strategic.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/708957-english-premier-league-40-of-the-biggest-flops-in-premiership-history

strategery
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Johnny English on December 08, 2020, 11:39:18 AM

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/708957-english-premier-league-40-of-the-biggest-flops-in-premiership-history

strategery

I'm not sure what the point of linking that article is but it's terrible, as it a) contains so many errors I'm fairly sure that the person writing it doesn't actually watch soccer, and b) there's no way that list makes sense if it doesn't contain Andrea Silenzi.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on December 08, 2020, 11:52:00 AM

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/708957-english-premier-league-40-of-the-biggest-flops-in-premiership-history

strategery

Ratioed by Andrea Silenzi
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Italian Seafood on December 08, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
RIP Dodgers

Haha they'll be fine, they just won't be able to play 700 ball on cruise control.

This is easily fixed though, the Dodgers can just name a pitcher as their DH if they want. That way their fans get to continue watching excrement batters and convincing themselves it's strategic.

Always cute when foreigners try to talk baseball.

Joe Kelly,DH?

Would make a hell of a t-shirt.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 23, 2021, 07:53:25 PM
https://twitter.com/dbacks/status/1374517091190009858?s=21
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 12, 2021, 02:01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/jtkirkmanwf/status/1392535153709363202?s=21

You guys don’t get the stratergy
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 29, 2021, 12:39:02 PM
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Isn't no NL DH so fun? Mets are down 2 and have 2 runners on with 2 outs and send the pitcher up to not swing. Automatic strike out. Inning over.

lol
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: Johnny English on July 29, 2021, 12:50:19 PM
lol

You just don't understand the strategy.
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on July 30, 2021, 10:17:03 PM
https://twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1421285915150913539?s=21

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Stay woke NL purists
Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 10, 2022, 03:34:40 PM
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Title: Re: Universal DH
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 10, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
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one of the GOAT memes