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Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: Badger on September 02, 2019, 11:22:20 PM
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2851400-2020-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-picks-before-the-regular-season-kicks-off
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I will be drafting Tommy Kraemer in every mock draft from now until next May.
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Right now we have picks 5, 37, 69, and 70 in the first three rounds
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https://twitter.com/lownesmatthew/status/1189568649239126019?s=21
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Right now we have picks 5, 37, 69, and 70 in the first three rounds
Which will equate to players with the talent equivalent to: DeWayne Robertson, Stephen Hill, Jachai Polite, and Lorenzo Mauldin
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I want Andrew Thomas and Trey Smith in the first two rounds
This OL needs some bullies
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I want Andrew Thomas and Trey Smith in the first two rounds
This OL needs some bullies
It seems like this is actually a good year for OTs compared to recent years
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Right now we have picks 5, 37, 69, and 70 in the first three rounds
that #5 will climb into the top 3.
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that #5 will climb into the top 3.
Could be wrong but if we lose to Miami this weekend I think we slide into the #2 hole
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I want Andrew Thomas
Welcome aboard
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Is Chase Young good enough to pass on Thomas? Don’t know if we’ll be on position to get him, but def worth a debate.
I want to build the OLine though.
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Is Chase Young good enough to pass on Thomas? Don’t know if we’ll be on position to get him, but def worth a debate.
I want to build the OLine though.
No. There are multiple ways to get pressure on the opposing QB. There's only one way to protect yours.
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Is Chase Young good enough to pass on Thomas? Don’t know if we’ll be on position to get him, but def worth a debate.
Chase Young is a better prospect than Nick Bosa
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Chase Young is a better prospect than Nick Bosa
That's racist. Although Chase Young is arguably a more white sounding name than Nick Bosa
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Not trying to take anything away from what Nick Bosa is doing this year because he's dominating, but Young is better on paper and he's putting up the numbers to prove it.
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Not trying to take anything away from what Nick Bosa is doing this year because he's dominating, but Young is better on paper and he's putting up the numbers to prove it.
And yet none of that matters to us right now. The only way we shouldn't take Thomas, is if he is gone already. Then our focus should shift to Jeudy. If both of those guys are already gone, then I would take Young. We need to surround Sam to succeed. Otherwise we will have an astounding defense, and dead franchise QB. not the way to win in the league today
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I want Andrew Thomas and Trey Smith in the first two rounds
This OL needs some bullies
+1.
If Smith's clot issues are cleared up what a brute.
Below: Smith (#73) 2 weeks ago vs. 'Bama (abusing a 335 lb.DL and then going back to shove him down again for good measure). He and Thomas would be a nice 1-2 punch on the left side.
https://twitter.com/JesseReSimonton/status/1185744519108726789
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/benjamin-solak-mock-draft-2.0
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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2020-nfl-mock-draft-tua-tagovailoa-lands-in-green-bay
9. NEW YORK JETS – OT ALEX LEATHERWOOD, ALABAMA
The Kelvin Beachum era in New York likely ends after this season with the left tackle’s contract expiring. That opens the door for Leatherwood and his silky smooth feet in pass protection. He only allowed 11 pressures on 409 pass-blocking snaps this season.
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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2020-nfl-mock-draft-tua-tagovailoa-lands-in-green-bay
9. NEW YORK JETS – OT ALEX LEATHERWOOD, ALABAMA
The Kelvin Beachum era in New York likely ends after this season with the left tackle’s contract expiring. That opens the door for Leatherwood and his silky smooth feet in pass protection. He only allowed 11 pressures on 409 pass-blocking snaps this season.
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Leatherwood is a good one
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The ladies call me leatherwood
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https://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php
#7 New York Jets: Austin Jackson, OT, USC
The Jets need someone to help Sam Darnold, so both a No. 1 receiver (CeeDee Lamb) and a talented left tackle (Austin Jackson) make sense. The former happens to be the superior prospect, but I think the front office will value protecting Darnold.
Austin Jackson is a terrific athlete with quick feet and superb agility.
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Walter Football has this SHITTIEST site
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-bills-add-needed-size-at-wide-receiver-two-quarterbacks-go-in-the-top-three/
#7 N.Y. Jets: Tristan Wirfs OL, Iowa
Wirfs would be the prudent pick for the Jets here. He's an NFL strong left tackle with a complete game.
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Walter Football has this SHITTIEST site
Shitty in terms of content?
...and thoughts on Jackson now that the season is over?
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Shitty in terms of content?
...and thoughts on Jackson now that the season is over?
Sorry, I have to split this forum into 3 posts per page for B A N D W I D T H
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https://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php
#7 New York Jets: Austin Jackson, OT, USC
The Jets need someone to help Sam Darnold, so both a No. 1 receiver (CeeDee Lamb) and a talented left tackle (Austin Jackson) make sense. The former happens to be the superior prospect, but I think the front office will value protecting Darnold.
Austin Jackson is a terrific athlete with quick feet and superb agility.
Not sure about Jackson, esp. in the first. Dancing bear mobile yes but isn't a finisher nor a brute in the Jedrick Wills mold and after picking either Wills/Leatherwood (and maybe Wirf) if I were looking for a mobile "played LT" option, I'd look at Prince Tega Wanogho as a later round project before Jax.
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Not sure about Jackson, esp. in the first. Dancing bear mobile yes but isn't a finisher nor a brute in the Jedrick Wills mold and after picking either Wills/Leatherwood (and maybe Wirf) if I were looking for a mobile "played LT" option, I'd look at Prince Tega Wanogho as a later round project before Jax.
Wirfs, Leatherwood, and now Prince Tega Wanagho
These names continue to get more impressive. Whats next?
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Wirfs, Leatherwood, and now Prince Tega Wanagho
These names continue to get more impressive. Whats next?
Andrew Thomas
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Wirfs, Leatherwood, and now Prince Tega Wanagho
These names continue to get more impressive. Whats next?
Lord Penis Megashaft Shifarter.
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Shitty in terms of content?
...and thoughts on Jackson now that the season is over?
Shitty in terms of:
1) viruses/pop ups
2) also yes content
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It's the season for mocking drafts on fanspeak that definitely aren't possible 4 months from now. Also has us at pick #10 still, but whatever.
10: R1P10 - OT TRISTAN WIRFS - IOWA
42: R2P10 - EDGE YETUR GROSS-MATOS - PENN STATE
68: R3P4 - WR JUSTIN JEFFERSON - LSU
74: R3P10 - CB PAULSON ADEBO - STANFORD
118: R4P10 - OT HAKEEM ADENIJI - KANSAS
156: R5P9 - RB J.K. DOBBINS - OHIO STATE
191: R6P10 - C JAKE HANSON - OREGON
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Hope Wirfs' still in play at #11. Guy was subpar vs. Michigan esp. the 2nd half (and Iowa's overall mid-season OL slump followed), but after Nebraska and his dominating play in the Holiday Bowl, am sold.
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These names continue to get more impressive. Whats next?
Whop Philyor, WR, Indiana (69 rec., 1,001 yds. in 2019).
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Shs7Thhshe Thyrmpje377, WR San Antonio State A&M
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Logic and past history would say the following guys go in the top 10
Chase young
Joe burrow
Tua
Justin Herbert
Okudah
Following that there are 2 elite wide recievers and atleast 3 starting caliber tackles totalling another 5
Jerry Jeudy
CeeDee Lamb
Thomas
Wirfs
Wills
That means we need 1 guy to jump into the top 10 to get a tackle or wide reciever.
How likely is this to happen?
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Whop Philyor, WR, Indiana (69 rec., 1,001 yds. in 2019).
RACIST!
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Logic and past history would say the following guys go in the top 10
Chase young
Joe burrow
Tua
Justin Herbert
Okudah
Following that there are 2 elite wide recievers and atleast 3 starting caliber tackles totalling another 5
Jerry Jeudy
CeeDee Lamb
Thomas
Wirfs
Wills
That means we need 1 guy to jump into the top 10 to get a tackle or wide reciever.
How likely is this to happen?
Even if that is the top 10 (in any order) that Becton fellow Heis is pushing the last few days sounds like he has the potential to be the best of the tackles, wouldn't be a bad buy at 11 if thats the case
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2019 was the first year since 2014 that a running back didn't go in the top ten. People like to talk about how the position is devalued but a lot of teams don't agree, it's not impossible that someone thinks that Etienne is their Zeke.
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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2020-nfl-mock-draft-chase-young-lands-in-washington-with-the-second-pick
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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2020-nfl-mock-draft-chase-young-lands-in-washington-with-the-second-pick
*gulp* 3 OT's in the top 8?
Was hoping that the Jets could snag Thomas/Wirfs/Wills at #11 (and possibly @Heismanberg's Fatty Arbuckle behemoth in the 2nd).
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*gulp* 3 OT's in the top 8?
Was hoping that the Jets could snag Thomas/Wirfs/Wills at #11 (and possibly @Heismanberg's Fatty Arbuckle behemoth in the 2nd).
I'd be happy with Jeudy though. Hopefully in that scenario we'd be coming off a nice FA haul.
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I'd be happy with Jeudy though. Hopefully in that scenario we'd be coming off a nice FA haul.
this is how our offseason is going to turn out:
we're going to make FA signings but not enough to allow us the freedom of a 'BPA' approach for the draft
we're going to go into the draft with a player/players we really want to address the huge holes we still have on the team
we're all going to scream 'freak' multiple times during the first 10 picks of the draft, and going to end up drafting a player at a position we already addressed through FA, or another DE.
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1. Tua Tagovailoa*, QB, Alabama
Tagovalioa will get dissected like every other would-be franchise quarterback, but his accuracy and mistake-free play will be huge bonuses along with his play-making ability in the pocket. He will be the first QB off the board unless something drastic happens.
From a big board constructed in April I just got around to reading
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What player would help each team the most in the 2020 draft.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869294-2020-nfl-mock-draft-1st-round-prospects-who-would-best-help-each-team
Jets pick will make you smile.
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What player would help each team the most in the 2020 draft.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869294-2020-nfl-mock-draft-1st-round-prospects-who-would-best-help-each-team
Jets pick will make you smile.
A lot of effort just to troll Jets fans.
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What player would help each team the most in the 2020 draft.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869294-2020-nfl-mock-draft-1st-round-prospects-who-would-best-help-each-team
Jets pick will make you smile.
A lot of effort just to troll Jets fans.
I think my eye is bleeding
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What player would help each team the most in the 2020 draft.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869294-2020-nfl-mock-draft-1st-round-prospects-who-would-best-help-each-team
Jets pick will make you smile.
That guy can DIAF
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Wouldn't like Epenesa at #11
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/how-to-fix-the-new-york-jets-over-the-2020-nfl-offseason
1. Epenesa, Edge, Iowa
2. Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
3a. Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
3b. Cameron Dantzler, CB, Miss. St.
4. Zack Moss, RB, Utah
5. Matthew Peart, OT, UConn
6. Levonta Taylor, CB, FSU
7. Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan
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I like rounds 5-7 a lot
Drafting a project tackle and no guards is disappointing
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Did a mock today because why not? But man their predictive system feels pretty broken
1 (11). Chase Young - Edge - Ohio State
2 (48). Travis Etienne - RB - Clemson
3 (68). Netane Muti - IOL - Fresno State
3 (79). Trey Adams - OT - Washington
4 (110). Ben Bredenson - IOL - Michigan
5 (140). Chase Clyapool - WR - Notre Dame
6 (171). A.J. Dillion - RB - Boston College
7 (202). Kendrick Rogers - WR - Texas A&M
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Did a mock today because why not? But man their predictive system feels pretty broken
1 (11). Chase Young - Edge - Ohio State
2 (48). Travis Etienne - RB - Clemson
3 (68). Netane Muti - IOL - Fresno State
3 (79). Trey Adams - OT - Washington
4 (110). Ben Bredenson - IOL - Michigan
5 (140). Chase Clyapool - WR - Notre Dame
6 (171). A.J. Dillion - RB - Boston College
7 (202). Kendrick Rogers - WR - Texas A&M
Maybe Etienne will show up to the combine sloppy fatz.
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Mic drop
11: R1P11
WR JERRY JEUDY
ALABAMA
48: R2P16
RB TRAVIS ETIENNE
CLEMSON
68: R3P4
OT MEKHI BECTON
LOUISVILLE
79: R3P15
CB LEVONTA TAYLOR
FLORIDA STATE
117: R4P14
EDGE JONATHAN GARVIN
MIAMI
158: R5P12
G MICHAEL ONWENU
MICHIGAN
191: R6P12
WR QUINTEZ CEPHUS
WISCONSIN
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I’d take either of ours in a nano second lol
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Wouldn't like Epenesa at #11
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/how-to-fix-the-new-york-jets-over-the-2020-nfl-offseason
1. Epenesa, Edge, Iowa
2. Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
3a. Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
3b. Cameron Dantzler, CB, Miss. St.
4. Zack Moss, RB, Utah
5. Matthew Peart, OT, UConn
6. Levonta Taylor, CB, FSU
7. Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan
This draft kicks derriere, other than Epenesa. Wouldn’t be my pick at 11 but we could certainly end up with a worse player.
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Drafting an elite tackle makes up for no guards
UUUUUUUU
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1 BENGALS QB Joe Burrow
2 REDSKINS EDGE Chase Young
3 LIONS DL Derrick Brown
4 GIANTS OT Jedrick Wills, Jr
5 DOLPHINS QB Tua Tagovailoa
6 CHARGERS QB Justin Herbert
7 PANTHERS OT Andrew Thomas
8 CARDINALS WR Jerry Jeudy
9 JAGUARS CB Jeff Okudah
10 BROWNS LB Isaiah Simmons
11 JETS OT Tristan Wirfs
12 RAIDERS WR Cee Dee Lamb
13 COLTS EDGE AJ Epenesa
14 BUCCANEERS S Grant Delpit
15 BRONCOS DL Javon Kinlaw
16 FALCONS EDGE Terrell Lewis
17 COWBOYS CB Kristian Fulton
18 DOLPHINS (PIT) WR Henry Ruggs
Matt Miller
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1 BENGALS QB Joe Burrow
2 REDSKINS EDGE Chase Young
3 LIONS DL Derrick Brown
4 GIANTS OT Jedrick Wills, Jr
5 DOLPHINS QB Tua Tagovailoa
6 CHARGERS QB Justin Herbert
7 PANTHERS OT Andrew Thomas
8 CARDINALS WR Jerry Jeudy
9 JAGUARS CB Jeff Okudah
10 BROWNS LB Isaiah Simmons
11 JETS OT Tristan Wirfs
12 RAIDERS WR Cee Dee Lamb
13 COLTS EDGE AJ Epenesa
14 BUCCANEERS S Grant Delpit
15 BRONCOS DL Javon Kinlaw
16 FALCONS EDGE Terrell Lewis
17 COWBOYS CB Kristian Fulton
18 DOLPHINS (PIT) WR Henry Ruggs
Matt Miller
It would be hard to pass on lamb
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1 BENGALS QB Joe Burrow
2 REDSKINS EDGE Chase Young
3 LIONS DL Derrick Brown
4 GIANTS OT Jedrick Wills, Jr
5 DOLPHINS QB Tua Tagovailoa
6 CHARGERS QB Justin Herbert
7 PANTHERS OT Andrew Thomas
8 CARDINALS WR Jerry Jeudy
9 JAGUARS CB Jeff Okudah
10 BROWNS LB Isaiah Simmons
11 JETS OT Tristan Wirfs
12 RAIDERS WR Cee Dee Lamb
13 COLTS EDGE AJ Epenesa
14 BUCCANEERS S Grant Delpit
15 BRONCOS DL Javon Kinlaw
16 FALCONS EDGE Terrell Lewis
17 COWBOYS CB Kristian Fulton
18 DOLPHINS (PIT) WR Henry Ruggs
Matt Miller
Brown, Herbert, Simmons, Epensa
Whats the consensus on these guys going top 10.
Who else do you think can sneak into the top 10
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It would be hard to pass on lamb
I literally was thinking that when I saw the list only to scroll up and see this.
I'd love to see us sign Conklin.
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Brown, Herbert, Simmons, Epensa
Whats the consensus on these guys going top 10.
Who else do you think can sneak into the top 10
Mekhi Becton, Jordan Love (lmao), and maybe Henry Ruggs could be top ten
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Mekhi Becton, Jordan Love (lmao), and maybe Henry Ruggs could be top ten
I still haven’t figured out who I like better out of Eason and Love. Love has a better all around skill set and is more polished and Eason I kind of as a poor man’s Josh Allen. At this point, either could sneak into the top 10 to a desperate team, but mid to late first is probably a more realistic projection.
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Whether or not a fourth quarterback sneaks into the top 10 is going to hinge on Cam's meds imho.
You figure the Bengals, Dolphins and Chargers will be in the market for a QB/will be the destination for Burrows, Tua, Herbert.
Who else is taking a QB in the top 10 besides the Panthers? Maybe Oakland trades up from 12 as they have the most capital by virtue of the Mack trade if they fall in love with someone, ditto Indy or Tampa depending on what happens with Jameis (I still think they franchise him).
I'm not high on the guy, but I could see evaluators falling in love with Herbert during the workout season to the point that I'd be pretty surprised if he doesn't go top 10.
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I’d honestly take Fromm over all of them except Burrow
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I’d honestly take Fromm over all of them except Burrow
I'm not a fan of Herbert at all, but he strikes me as a guy that's going to have a front office fall in love with what they see when he's working out at a scripted pro day.
I like Tua more than you do, but the hype was ridiculous.
I know people are down on Fromm, I could still see a needy team sneaking into the late first to grab him.
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I’d honestly take Fromm over all of them except Burrow
Because you like Fromm or because you hate the others so much? I certainly think that Fromm is being overlooked a bit, I've seen him mocked as a day 2 player and I think he's done more than enough for someone to think that he's a potentially great redshirt option. A team like LA could sit him behind Rivers for a year.
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Because you like Fromm or because you hate the others so much? I certainly think that Fromm is being overlooked a bit, I've seen him mocked as a day 2 player and I think he's done more than enough for someone to think that he's a potentially great redshirt option. A team like LA could sit him behind Rivers for a year.
A little bit of both
Fromm just has some factors on and off the field that translate well to the NFL
I see a lot of Drew Brees in him
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A little bit of both
Fromm just has some factors on and off the field that translate well to the NFL
I see a lot of Drew Brees in him
I definitely like him a lot more than Eason, who has played the same number of games Mark Sanchez did in college. I haven't seen too much of him but I don't understand why he's suddenly climbing draft boards.
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I definitely like him a lot more than Eason, who has played the same number of games Mark Sanchez did in college. I haven't seen too much of him but I don't understand why he's suddenly climbing draft boards.
Eason has had the possibility of a 1st round grade attached to his name since sometime last season. The closer it gets to the draft, the more the QBs start to get overvalued and shoot up the board.
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Eason has had the possibility of a 1st round grade attached to his name since sometime last season. The closer it gets to the draft, the more the QBs start to get overvalued and shoot up the board.
Dollar Store Joe Flacco.
Also, I love scouting reports:
He won’t ever be compared to Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson, but he can extend plays and pick up yards with his legs.
Jacob Eason rushing yards per season:
2016: -45
2017: -12
2019: -64
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He's Tony Eason's kid? Screw him.
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Dollar Store Joe Flacco.
Also, I love scouting reports:
Jacob Eason rushing yards per season:
2016: -45
2017: -12
2019: -64
Joe Flacco is a good comp. I haven’t seen much of him but it’s easy for me to attach the Josh Allen comp to him because the 2 things you always read about him are big arm and accuracy issues. Way less athletic than Allen though.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-find-next-rob-gronkowski-jacob-eason-slips-into-first-round/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-find-next-rob-gronkowski-jacob-eason-slips-into-first-round/)
Dolphins
I'm not a fan of Tua, but improving his oline and giving him 3 recievers 6'3 and up is a good way to help his success (Adams, Geisicki, Higgins)
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I don't have strong feelings about Tua as a player, he's clearly talented and it's up for debate as to how far his talent will go in the NFL. The hip thing worries me though, I don't know much about physiology but I feel like hip injuries are a thing that lots of people never seem to completely recover from and there's always a danger of a recurrence.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-find-next-rob-gronkowski-jacob-eason-slips-into-first-round/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-patriots-find-next-rob-gronkowski-jacob-eason-slips-into-first-round/)
Dolphins
I'm not a fan of Tua, but improving his oline and giving him 3 recievers 6'3 and up is a good way to help his success (Adams, Geisicki, Higgins)
Chan Gailey is the new OC in Miami...Gesicki will be on the side of a milk carton soon.
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He's Tony Eason's kid? Screw him.
lmao, not that Tony Eason apparently, though I thought the same thing.
Then I learned there's apparently multiple Tony Eason's.
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I definitely like him a lot more than Eason, who has played the same number of games Mark Sanchez did in college. I haven't seen too much of him but I don't understand why he's suddenly climbing draft boards.
He's big and he has a cannon arm.
He didn't start a lot of games because Fromm beat him out at UGA and then he transferred. Pretty sure he jumped into this class because it's a weak group and he can't compete with Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields in 2021.
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Jacob Eason is more like Drew Lock than Joe Flacco
He can move around a little bit
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Worst case scenario:
Andrews
Wirfs
Wills
Jeudy
Lamb
All gone by 11.
Who is the pick?
Becton
Ruggs
Higgins
Epenesa
Simmons
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Becton
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Becton
Agree.
Who are the other OL that are graded mid-high first round?
Becton
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Agree.
Who are the other OL that are graded mid-high first round?
Becton
Maybe Austin Jackson
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Maybe Austin Jackson
Agree on that. In our situation I’m taking the guy with the way higher ceiling
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Agree on that. In our situation I’m taking the guy with the way higher ceiling
When does that ever workout
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Worst case scenario:
Andrews
Wirfs
Wills
Jeudy
Lamb
All gone by 11.
Who is the pick?
Becton
Ruggs
Higgins
Epenesa
Simmons
Trade down. It may happen one year
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I think that Tee Higgins is a player that Adam Gase will really like
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I am very biased but if Jeudy and Lamb are both gone at 11, I like Bryan Edwards with one of our third rounders. It will let us shore up the OL early on and Edwards should be a better pro than college player with the issues SC has had at QB the last few years. He reminded me of Alshon early on.
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Bryan Edwards and Gabriel Davis are two mid rounders I really like for us.
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I think that Tee Higgins is a player that Adam Gase will really like
I want to get Sam a big physical target that will box out his opponent and go get tough contested catches. I don’t care when/where we get him, but that is the type of guy I want to get Sam to complete his set.
We have the speedy/shifty slot guy in Crowder. 2 dependable tight ends in Herndon and Griffin. Hopefully we can keep the burner in Robbie, we just need the big go to guy. I don’t care who or when we get him, but that is what I want to give Sam this offseason in the passing game
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Bryan Edwards and Gabriel Davis are two mid rounders I really like for us.
Where is Michael Pittman going?
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Isiah Simmons' game tonight may cement his top 10 status. Good for us, push some of that offensive talent down to 11.
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Isiah Simmons' game tonight may cement his top 10 status. Good for us, push some of that offensive talent down to 11.
Or we could draft Simmons at 11
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Where is Michael Pittman going?
4th or later
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https://twitter.com/draftnetworkllc/status/1220445272058232832?s=21
This 7 round mock has some great late round picks for us
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https://twitter.com/draftnetworkllc/status/1220445272058232832?s=21
This 7 round mock has some great late round picks for us
Very unrealistic that most of those players will fall that far
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Very unrealistic that most of those players will fall that far
No their simulator has no flaws
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-chargers-saints-replace-veteran-quarterbacks-with-senior-bowl-standouts/
Taking Lamb over Jeudy/Wirfs/Thomas has me hating mock drafts early this offseason.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-chargers-saints-replace-veteran-quarterbacks-with-senior-bowl-standouts/
Taking Lamb over Jeudy/Wirfs/Thomas has me hating mock drafts early this offseason.
I can understand why people like Lamb. But man I just don’t like him more than a lot of the WRs in this class. So many of these guys are going to be insanely special. Lamb can be as well obviously, and if he’s the guy, I’ll be excited. But I just would rather grab an exceptional talent at another position first, and then double dip later at WR.
Idk what it is about lamb that makes me nervous/not see a future star, but I think he’s the most realistic option at 11 that I currently want no part of
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I can't remember who it was against, but that one play where Lamb YACd five defenders out of their cleats and burned it to the endzone made me an instant Lamb stan.
Over Jeudy? Ehhh, that's a tough one. Over Thomas? freak that.
EDIT: Texas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_5q8BxGNY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_5q8BxGNY8)
Ridiculous.
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I would have no problem with Lamb. I think he’s closer to Jeudy than it seems most people do. Still have JJ higher, but I wouldn’t be disappointed. It’s possible for both of them to be really freaking good at the next level. If Jeudy turns into OBJ and Lamb turns into Hopkins, I don’t think the team that picked one over the other would have many regrets.
I want OL though.
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I would have no problem with Lamb. I think he’s closer to Jeudy than it seems most people do. Still have JJ higher, but I wouldn’t be disappointed. It’s possible for both of them to be really freaking good at the next level. If Jeudy turns into OBJ and Lamb turns into Hopkins, I don’t think the team that picked one over the other would have many regrets.
I want OL though.
In this scenario, I have a big problem with Lamb....because Wirfs and Thomas are still on the board.
He’s still an elite prospect. Like you said in your post, I’m all in on OL.
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WR and OT are the deepest groups.
I'll present you with two scenarios:
1. Jerry Jeudy
2. Josh Jones
1. Mekhi Becton
2. Laviska Shenault
I'm cool with either of them.
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I think he’s closer to Jeudy than it seems most people do.
It's very close. Jeudy is much more polished as a route runner, but Lamb is better after the catch.
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I want Mekhi Becton, a corner or edge in the second, and KJ Hill in the third.
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I want Biadasz and frankly I don’t care when or where we get him. It appears he is sliding down boards after his injury, but I don’t care that’s a guy I want manning the middle for Sam
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I want Biadasz and frankly I don’t care when or where we get him. It appears he is sliding down boards after his injury, but I don’t care that’s a guy I want manning the middle for Sam
I'd rather have Cushenberry, Ruiz, or Hennessy but if Biadasz falls to the third round, that's a no brainer.
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WR and OT are the deepest groups.
I'll present you with two scenarios:
1. Jerry Jeudy
2. Josh Jones
1. Mekhi Becton
2. Laviska Shenault
I'm cool with either of them.
Scenario 2 all day but I know the least about Josh Jones out of all 4 prospects. I think I have him as a day 2 pick as well I just wouldn’t get as excited about him as the other 3 guys mentioned.
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Scenario 2 all day but I know the least about Josh Jones out of all 4 prospects. I think I have him as a day 2 pick as well I just wouldn’t get as excited about him as the other 3 guys mentioned.
Jones is very athletic and shows traits of an elite pass protector at left tackle.
He's not as powerful as Wills or Becton, but he pass sets better than both right now. Tons of experience and it shows. He's very technically sound and could probably start Day 1 in the NFL.
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WR and OT are the deepest groups.
I'll present you with two scenarios:
1. Jerry Jeudy
2. Josh Jones
1. Mekhi Becton
2. Laviska Shenault
I'm cool with either of them.
Isnt Shenault going to go in the first?
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Laviska Shenault, absolutely elite name that has nothing but stardom/success written all over it
im going to start watching tape of this guy
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Isnt Shenault going to go in the first?
I really like Shenault. He should probably get a first round grade. Most other years I think he would be a lock for the 1st. This year though...
IMO:
Top 10:
Jeudy
Lamb
1st round:
Tee Higgins
Henry Ruggs
Late 1st/Early 2nd:
Lavishka Shenault
Jalen Reagor
Justin Jefferson (I might be a little high on him)
It all depends on how many teams take WRs. I think Shenault offers a unique skillset compared to most of the other guys near his talent level
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Jalen Reagor sounds like a second string character from GoT.
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The KJs are good too
Hill and Hamler
Denzel Mims has a chance to climb if he runs a good 40
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The KJs are good too
Hill and Hamler
Denzel Mims has a chance to climb if he runs a good 40
Same with the 6’6” Texas kid who apparently showed out at the senior bowl.
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needed to kill some time...
11: OT MEKHI BECTON
LOUISVILLE
48: G SOLOMON KINDLEY
GEORGIA
68: WR K.J. HAMLER
PENN STATE
79: RB CAM AKERS
FLORIDA STATE
117: C CESAR RUIZ
MICHIGAN
158: CB AMIK ROBERTSON
LOUISIANA TECH
191: CB STANFORD SAMUELS III
FLORIDA STATE
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WHY U REACHIN?
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is becton going to last to our fvcking pick or not
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is becton going to last to our fvcking pick or not
I fvckin hope so
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is becton going to last to our fvcking pick or not
My complete 100% guess (which is likely Bullshit)
The tackle order comes down to athletic testing. If Becton tests way better than the other top 3, he flies up boards and is one of the top 2 tackles taken, likely top 5-7. Raw Athleticism at his size gives him a huge edge in long term potential/ ceiling so if he is significantly more athletic he goes before us.
If he is moderately more athletic he will either go just before us, or to us at 11. I think teams will value the experience in the SEC and general higher level of play (to date) of guys like Wills and Thomas in this case. Particularly if it doesn’t seem that there is a drastic difference in ceiling.
I also think a lot of the OT ratings is dependent on how teams view Wirfs. Is he a LT? Is he a RT only option? Does he slide inside to OG at the next level? If he’s deemed a potential franchise LT that puts him squarely in the first guy taken conversation. If he’s seen as a RT only or guy who has to move inside to be the most successful, I think he likely slides to guy #4 and that means he’s there for us at 11. Personally I think Wirfs is my guy. But that also likely means he ends up going ahead of us as I think he will become a dominant tackle option at the next level.
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FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah is very close to Joe Douglas and JD even tried to hire him here.
Jeremiah sees Tristan Wirfs as a guard in the NFL.
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FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah is very close to Joe Douglas and JD even tried to hire him here.
Jeremiah sees Tristan Wirfs as a guard in the NFL.
I like a lot of DJs takes, I think some of it is overblown for TVs purposes but I’d love to have him as one of our leaders in the scouting department. That’s why I mentioned Wirfs as a potential OG, because I trust a lot of DJs stuff.
Which is another reason why I would love Wirfs.
Let’s say we do get Conklin and resign Beachum, if you draft Thomas one of those three will be out of position, but Wirfs has versatility and he moves so well I’d love him in Geeen and White. But I think Becton is my second favorite guy. Dude could be the legit solution on the left side for a long time.
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WHY U REACHIN?
I tried the Draftek board when setting up the simulator....that's just how the board fell.
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I tried the Draftek board when setting up the simulator....that's just how the board fell.
Kindley is probably a 4th or 5th rounder
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Kindley is probably a 4th or 5th rounder
the Draftek board had him ranked #28 overall lol
#StillBetterThanPauline'sBoard
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Has any body done TDN's premium service? I am going back and forth with trying it out. I was curious if anybody else had it yet.
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Has any body done TDN's premium service? I am going back and forth with trying it out. I was curious if anybody else had it yet.
What’s included and how much does it cost? I don’t really use their regular service too much as is
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What’s included and how much does it cost? I don’t really use their regular service too much as is
$9.99 for a month or $29.99 annual. Premium columns, including their draft prospectus and some other premium content. Access to a mock draft simulator with trades and a few other features.
Considering how often I’m on their stuff part of me just wants to get it but it just seems quite expensive for draft content
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Participating in a mock on another site:
Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs, and Andrew Thomas are off the board at 11.
Jedrick Wills and Jeffrey Okudah were still there.
Put the pick on the block and moved it to Minnesota for 25th overall, 58th overall, and a 2021 1st rounder.
Hoping to land someone like Cushenberry or Jones at the back end of the first.
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You little draft slut
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Participating in a mock on another site:
Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs, and Andrew Thomas are off the board at 11.
Jedrick Wills and Jeffrey Okudah were still there.
Put the pick on the block and moved it to Minnesota for 25th overall, 58th overall, and a 2021 1st rounder.
Hoping to land someone like Cushenberry or Jones at the back end of the first.
That’s a very good deal for us. Grab a critical pick to the rebuild now, and a major add for our future at the same time.
Who did the Vikings want?
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That’s a very good deal for us. Grab a critical pick to the rebuild now, and a major add for our future at the same time.
Who did the Vikings want?
He took Jeffrey Okudah
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He took Jeffrey Okudah
That was my guess.
Hopefully you kick derriere with that extra pick.
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You little draft slut
He actually has a lower back tattoo that says Draft Slut
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He actually has a lower back tattoo that says Draft Slut
Draft $lut*
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Took Josh Jones at #25
Took Cesar Ruiz at #44
Traded #48 and #110 to move up #44
I have another second and two thirds left
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Took Josh Jones at #25
Took Cesar Ruiz at #44
Traded #48 and #110 to move up #44
I have another second and two thirds left
If you had later picks (6 and 7s) could you have used those to move up? Holding onto 110 would have been great to have in the back pocket. That said getting Ruiz is almost certainly worth it. I’m just curious if you think it would have been able to be done “cheaper” since you only move up 4 slots.
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If you had later picks (6 and 7s) could you have used those to move up? Holding onto 110 would have been great to have in the back pocket. That said getting Ruiz is almost certainly worth it. I’m just curious if you think it would have been able to be done “cheaper” since you only move up 4 slots.
I put the offer out early with a 5th instead of a 4th. He countered and the Pats GM was trying to trade up for Ruiz.
Wanted to get a center. Acquire the extra second moving back let me move the 4th without hesitation.
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Used Minnesota’s second rounder on Brandon Aiyuk
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Used Minnesota’s second rounder on Brandon Aiyuk
What other receivers were available?
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What other receivers were available?
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Denzel Mims
Van Jefferson
Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs, Shenault, Higgins, Jefferson, and Reagor went in the first.
Hamler came off the board a few picks ahead but I still would’ve taken Aiyuk.
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Donovan Peoples-Jones
Denzel Mims
Van Jefferson
Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs, Shenault, Higgins, Jefferson, and Reagor went in the first.
Hamlet came off the board a few picks ahead but I still would’ve taken Aiyuk.
That's a big run on WR's in the 1st.
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That's a big run on WR's in the 1st.
Yeah, it was frustrating but it also allowed Ruiz to drop.
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Yeah, it was frustrating but it also allowed Ruiz to drop.
Aiyuk is a damn good consolation prize though. Such a smooth athlete.
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Double dipped at wideout.
I was hoping Bradlee Anae would fall, but he went to Detroit the pick before. Jaylon Johnson was who I was initially targeting but he went to Houston in the second.
Ended up taking Baylor's Denzel Mims over UCONN OT Matt Peart. We need help outside and Mims is a prototype X.
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Double dipped at wideout.
I was hoping Bradlee Anae would fall, but he went to Detroit the pick before. Jaylon Johnson was who I was initially targeting but he went to Houston in the second.
Ended up taking Baylor's Denzel Mims over UCONN OT Matt Peart. We need help outside and Mims is a prototype X.
Regardless of resigning Robbie I want to double dip at this WR class. And if we don’t get Robbie back, then it becomes mandatory to double dip.
All the million mocks I have done through various simulators, I consistently grab 2 wrs, 1 defender and 2-3 OL. The rest varies. The value is just too good in the middle rounds at WR to pass them up
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Daniel Jeremiah's first mock of draft season has the Jets taking:
#11 NYJ K'Lavon Chaisson EDGE LSU
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001097592/article/daniel-jeremiah-2020-nfl-mock-draft-10-four-qbs-in-top-15
Discuss.
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Daniel Jeremiah's first mock of draft season has the Jets taking:
#11 NYJ K'Lavon Chaisson EDGE LSU
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001097592/article/daniel-jeremiah-2020-nfl-mock-draft-10-four-qbs-in-top-15
Discuss.
This mock is essentially worst case scenario.
If the board truly breaks where Becton, Wirfs, Wills and Thomas are all off the board, (and other guys like Simmons and obviously Okudah) I'd rather us take the FO's choice of Jeudy/Lamb, even with the depth at the position.
You wonder if that actually happens and QB's slide if teams like the Colts or Bucs would be motivated to move up to that pick to leapfrog Vegas. It's certainly not a given that Gruden doesn't take a QB. As recently as a week ago, I figured the Bucs would franchise Jameis and run it back. Now with Rivers available they may put themselves in a position to sign him as a stopgap to be competitive while grooming a Herbert.
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I've said it before, if they don't take an offensive lineman in the first round, I want them to draft an EDGE. If the talent pool is truly as deep at receiver as advertised, I'd rather spend mid-round picks on that position.
An elite pass-rushing threat is something we haven't had in ages. As good as our defenses have been, they could be so much better if there was a true threat that opposing QBs had to worry about.
Of course, that assumes not aquiring one in free agency.
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I've said it before, if they don't take an offensive lineman in the first round, I want them to draft an EDGE. If the talent pool is truly as deep at receiver as advertised, I'd rather spend mid-round picks on that position.
An elite pass-rushing threat is something we haven't had in ages. As good as our defenses have been, they could be so much better if there was a true threat that opposing QBs had to worry about.
Of course, that assumes not aquiring one in free agency.
I don't disagree, I'm also very wary of taking someone who IMHO is going to get overdrafted based on measurables. Chaisson is an absolutely athletic freak, but he didn't exactly put up big time production at LSU (though he did end the year strong).
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Double dipped at wideout.
I was hoping Bradlee Anae would fall, but he went to Detroit the pick before. Jaylon Johnson was who I was initially targeting but he went to Houston in the second.
Ended up taking Baylor's Denzel Mims over UCONN OT Matt Peart. We need help outside and Mims is a prototype X.
GM Heismanberg has been dismissed, effective immediately
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I've said it before, if they don't take an offensive lineman in the first round, I want them to draft an EDGE. If the talent pool is truly as deep at receiver as advertised, I'd rather spend mid-round picks on that position.
An elite pass-rushing threat is something we haven't had in ages. As good as our defenses have been, they could be so much better if there was a true threat that opposing QBs had to worry about.
Of course, that assumes not aquiring one in free agency.
Barring an outstanding free agency period, I am going to be furious if we use the #11 pick on any defensive player not called Chase Young.
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I don't disagree, I'm also very wary of taking someone who IMHO is going to get overdrafted based on measurables. Chaisson is an absolutely athletic freak, but he didn't exactly put up big time production at LSU (though he did end the year strong).
Vernon Gholston 2.0
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Here's a three round mock from some dude named Chad Reuter from NFLN
TL;DR
#11 Chaisson EDGE LSU
#48 Justin Jefferson WR LSU
#68 Troy Pride CD Notre Dame
#79 Keith Ismael C San Diego State
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001101022/article/threeround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-10-dolphins-pass-on-tua
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Here's a three round mock from some dude named Chad Reuter from NFLN
TL;DR
#11 Chaisson EDGE LSU
#48 Justin Jefferson WR LSU
#68 Troy Pride CD Notre Dame
#79 Keith Ismael C San Diego State
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001101022/article/threeround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-10-dolphins-pass-on-tua
He sings for Nickelback, why is he making mocks?
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Vernon Gholston 2.0
The insane thing about Gholston though is the production was there. He had 22.5 sacks over two years as a starter.
Obviously he's one of the biggest draft busts in team history, which is certainly saying something given the history of the franchise. I also can't lie-I was excited when we got him.
It's such a shame because imagine having a disruptive force like what he was supposed to be on Rex's defense in 09 and 10. Wow.
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The insane thing about Gholston though is the production was there. He had 22.5 sacks over two years as a starter.
Obviously he's one of the biggest draft busts in team history, which is certainly saying something given the history of the franchise. I also can't lie-I was excited when we got him.
It's such a shame because imagine having a disruptive force like what he was supposed to be on Rex's defense in 09 and 10. Wow.
I as well. I recall watching the draft, hoping ATL would take Ryan, so Gholston would drop to us...and they did...and we picked Gholston...we know how that panned out.
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Becton and Cushenberry in a 2-round mock
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/reid-s-2020-nfl-mock-draft-5.0
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Becton and Cushenberry in a 2-round mock
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/reid-s-2020-nfl-mock-draft-5.0
Big fan
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Big fan
Same here
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The insane thing about Gholston though is the production was there. He had 22.5 sacks over two years as a starter.
Obviously he's one of the biggest draft busts in team history, which is certainly saying something given the history of the franchise. I also can't lie-I was excited when we got him.
It's such a shame because imagine having a disruptive force like what he was supposed to be on Rex's defense in 09 and 10. Wow.
That's why I pushed back at the idea that he was purely a workout warrior. That was always the knock on him. Except he had the production, too. Unfortunately, most of his production was simply bullrushing overmatched collegiate OL, and in the NFL, that just meant he got stuck on blocks.
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Is Matt Prrrrt a good tackle prospect
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Is Matt Prrrrt a good tackle prospect
Yes
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three rd mock from Chaaad Reuter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102631/article/threeround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-20-trades-shake-up-round-1
TL;DR
Jets trade down with Denver to pick up a 3rd & 4th
#15 Jedrick Willis
#48 Jalen Reagor WR TCU
#68 Jeff Gladney CB TCU
#79 Tyler Biadasz C Wisconson
#83 Josh Uche EDGE UM
I'd sign for this draft
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three rd mock from Chaaad Reuter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102631/article/threeround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-20-trades-shake-up-round-1
TL;DR
Jets trade down with Denver to pick up a 3rd & 4th
#15 Jedrick Willis
#48 Jalen Reagor WR TCU
#68 Jeff Gladney CB TCU
#79 Tyler Biadasz C Wisconson
#83 Josh Uche EDGE UM
I'd sign for this draft
Most of them sound like GOT characters
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three rd mock from Chaaad Reuter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102631/article/threeround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-20-trades-shake-up-round-1
TL;DR
Jets trade down with Denver to pick up a 3rd & 4th
#15 Jedrick Willis
#48 Jalen Reagor WR TCU
#68 Jeff Gladney CB TCU
#79 Tyler Biadasz C Wisconson
#83 Josh Uche EDGE UM
I'd sign for this draft
Same here in a heartbeat. That said, with similar 1st round targets/needs I can't see Cleveland putting themselves behind the Jets as with this guy's mock let alone Jedrick Wills still available at #15. Some in his draft order also seem a little ambitious (e.g. Kole Kmet at #20).
Reagor, Gladney & Biadasz a big-time yes but (per his list) would pass on the quick/undersized Josh Uche (invisible vs. 'Bama) for Troy Pride, CB, ND.
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Josh Uche is so overrated right now because of the Senior Bowl
Tristan Wirfs kicked his derriere all over the field
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Projecting the top 10 without trades right now:
1) Bengals - Burrow
2) Redskins - Chase Young
3) Lions - Okudah
4) Giants - Simmons
5) Dolphins - Tua
6) Chargers - Herbert/Love
7) Panthers - Wills
8) Cardinals - Wirfs
9) Jaguars - Becton
10) Browns - Thomas
Connor Rogers lol
Derrick Brown SZN
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Projecting the top 10 without trades right now:
1) Bengals - Burrow
2) Redskins - Chase Young
3) Lions - Okudah
4) Giants - Simmons
5) Dolphins - Tua
6) Chargers - Herbert/Love
7) Panthers - Wills
8) Cardinals - Wirfs
9) Jaguars - Becton
10) Browns - Thomas
Connor Rogers lol
WR SZN
Fyp
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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-pff-2020-post-combine-mock-draft-redskins-go-with-tua-tagovailoa
Jets end up with Thomas at #11 after all the other tackles were taken
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7) Panthers - Wills
8) Cardinals - Wirfs
9) Jaguars - Becton
10) Browns - Thomas
This would be excruciating to watch.
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This would be excruciating to watch.
It would suck but it also means we could have any wr we want or trade back 1-2 spots and still get the player we want
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It would suck but it also means we could have any wr we want or trade back 1-2 spots and still get the player we want
we are the jets lol, you can bet your derriere that if the above scenario were to occur it would come after a FA period of being able to sign WR help but not end up with any of the OL help we wished for
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It would suck but it also means we could have any wr we want or trade back 1-2 spots and still get the player we want
True, I was so annoyed by the run on tackles I didn't notice Jeudy would be available.
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I like this site better than fanspeak's: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator
11 - OT Jedrick Wills, Alabama
48 - CB Damon Arnette, Ohio State
68 - WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan
79 - EDGE Bradlee Anae, Utah
120 - OT/OG Hakeem Adeniji, Kansas
159 - RB Zack Moss, Utah
192 - CB Stanford Samuels III, Florida State
212 - P Braden Mann, Texas A&M
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First mock on the link Jumbo sent.
11. Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
48. Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
68. Jabari Zuniga, EDGE, Florida
79. Michael Pittman Jr, WR, USC
120. Robert Hunt, OL, UL Lafayette
159. Zack Moss, RB, Utah
192. Josiah Scott, CB, Michigan State
212. Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
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I really like the UI on this Jumbo. Plus working out trades is much nicer than other mock sites.
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I like this site better than fanspeak's: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator
11 - OT Jedrick Wills, Alabama
48 - CB Damon Arnette, Ohio State
68 - WR Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan
79 - EDGE Bradlee Anae, Utah
120 - OT/OG Hakeem Adeniji, Kansas
159 - RB Zack Moss, Utah
192 - CB Stanford Samuels III, Florida State
212 - P Braden Mann, Texas A&M
Was Joe Burrow still on the board for yours, because he was for mine.
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Round: 1
Jets LogoJoe BurrowQB | LSU LogoLSU
48
Round: 2
Jets LogoMatt PeartOT | UConn LogoUConn
68
Round: 3
Jets LogoChase ClaypoolWR | Notre Dame LogoNotre Dame
79
Round: 3
Jets LogoBrandon AiyukWR | Arizona State LogoArizona State
120
Round: 4
Jets LogoD.J. WonnumEDGE | South Carolina LogoSouth Carolina
159
Round: 5
Jets LogoNevelle ClarkeCB | UCF LogoUCF
192
Round: 6
Jets LogoElijah MitchellRB | Louisiana-Lafayette LogoLouisiana-Lafayette
212
Round: 6
Jets LogoCarter CoughlinLB | Minnesota LogoMinnesota
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11. Tristan Wirfs - OT Iowa
48. Marlon Davidson - DE Auburn
68. Lynn Bowden - WR Kentucky
79. Chase Claypool - WR Notre Dame
120. Bryce Hall - CB UVA
158. Netane Muti - G Fresno State
191. Braden Mann - P Texas A&M
211. Darryl Williams - C Mississippi State
Just used Pro Football Network's new mock simulator. The rankings (especially for corners and interior offensive line) are awful.
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You value Lynn Bowden that highly? I’m surprised to see him at 68 from you.
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You value Lynn Bowden that highly? I’m surprised to see him at 68 from you.
Bowden is a stud playmaker. I wouldn't be upset with him at 68 even if he was available way later on the site I mocked on.
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You value Lynn Bowden that highly? I’m surprised to see him at 68 from you.
Bowden is a Top 100 player to me. I knew I wasn't going to be get two better playmakers than Bowden and Claypool if I waited.
Marlon Davidson is a Top 30 prospect for me as well. I see him as an EDGE while a lot of people have him as a DT. He is the next Melvin Ingram.
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Bowden is a Top 100 player to me. I knew I wasn't going to be get two better playmakers than Bowden and Claypool if I waited.
Marlon Davidson is a Top 30 prospect for me as well. I see him as an EDGE while a lot of people have him as a DT. He is the next Melvin Ingram.
When I stopped to think about it, I’d you think of Bowden as Brad Smith 2.0, then he ends up worth that pick, a guy able to just do a million things for you
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When I stopped to think about it, I’d you think of Bowden as Brad Smith 2.0, then he ends up worth that pick, a guy able to just do a million things for you
Lynn Bowden is a way better receiver than Brad Smith could've ever been. Smith just never got a chance to do it at Missouri.
Bowden is really dynamic with the football in his hands. If he was given the chance to play WR full time at Kentucky, I think he'd be seen as a second round prospect. He did whatever the asked of him though and it slowed his development. I'll take a warrior over some more polished, tapped out receivers in the middle rounds.
Randall Cobb is the closest comparison.
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11 - Mekhi Becton - OT - Louisville
48 - Cesar Ruiz - IOL - Michigan
68 - Marlon Davidson - EDGE - Auburn
79 - Chase Claypool - WR - Notre Dame
120 - Anthony McFarland - RB - Maryland
158 - Quintez Cephus - WR - Wisconsin
191 - Levonta Taylor - CB - Florida State
211 - Jeff Thomas - WR - Miami (FL)
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Fortified the offensive line with Mekhi Becton and Cesar Ruiz. This is how you help Sam Darnold. Protect him and let him elevate the skill talent around him. It's time for him to start doing that.
The talent at wideout in the third round was there but I saw some guys on the board that I really valued as mid-to-late rounders. Claypool is a player that the Jets are heavily interested in. He is a mismatch for most corners and can line up all over the place. We need a true possession receiver. Cephus has a massive character red flag with the 2018 suspension but the case was dropped. Jeff Thomas is a serious sleeper. He has great deep speed and he's undervalued because he always played with awful QBs.
Marlon Davidson and Amik Robertson are my favorite defensive players in the draft. I chose the EDGE rusher in Davidson over Robertson.
McFarland is a great compliment to Le'Veon Bell and a scheme fit. He is a homerun hitter.
Levonta Taylor is someone that never lived up to the hype but there's lots of talent to work with.
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11 - Mekhi Becton - OT - Louisville
48 - Cesar Ruiz - IOL - Michigan
68 - Marlon Davidson - EDGE - Auburn
79 - Chase Claypool - WR - Notre Dame
120 - Anthony McFarland - RB - Maryland
158 - Quintez Cephus - WR - Wisconsin
191 - Levonta Taylor - CB - Florida State
211 - Jeff Thomas - WR - Miami (FL)
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Fortified the offensive line with Mekhi Becton and Cesar Ruiz. This is how you help Sam Darnold. Protect him and let him elevate the skill talent around him. It's time for him to start doing that.
The talent at wideout in the third round was there but I saw some guys on the board that I really valued as mid-to-late rounders. Claypool is a player that the Jets are heavily interested in. He is a mismatch for most corners and can line up all over the place. We need a true possession receiver. Cephus has a massive character red flag with the 2018 suspension but the case was dropped. Jeff Thomas is a serious sleeper. He has great deep speed and he's undervalued because he always played with awful QBs.
Marlon Davidson and Amik Robertson are my favorite defensive players in the draft. I chose the EDGE rusher in Davidson over Robertson.
McFarland is a great compliment to Le'Veon Bell and a scheme fit. He is a homerun hitter.
Levonta Taylor is someone that never lived up to the hype but there's lots of talent to work with.
Very nice top to bottom; like your insights and your general take on things draft-wise and otherwise and would sign up for this mock in a minute. A few comments/questions if I may.
- Is Ruiz still around at 48? If not and Cushenberry was still on the board would you grab him or look at some other OL or other (e.g. BPA) position?
- Davidson on the edge at 280 lbs. plus? I remember you saying he kicked Andrew Thomas' derriere (just thinking of the Sheldon Richardson at edge experiment). If (just saying 'if') FSU's Cam Akers were somehow still available in the 3rd, thoughts?
- Claypool: solid pick (and his 40 time in the combine was a nice eye-opener). McFarland: HR hitter indeed. Cephus: underrated high value (was thinking of Juwaan Jennings TN as another good value/potential pick).
- Levonta Taylor: 1st round talent; is his back injury behind him?
- Jeff Thomas: another huge talent/red flags. Guy was kicked off by Mark Richt, was going to go home to the Illini, returned to UM when Manny Diaz became HC (however Diaz ended up suspending him as well). His combine didn't help either. Anyway, if his head's screwed on, big time talent and a potential steal in (imho) a smaller ODB package.
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Is Ruiz still around at 48? If not and Cushenberry was still on the board would you grab him or look at some other OL or other (e.g. BPA) position?
I don't think Ruiz will be there in the actual draft, but he was too good to pass on during this run through of TDN's Mock Simulator.
If he was off the board, I would've gone with Laviksa Shenault.
Davidson on the edge at 280 lbs. plus? I remember you saying he kicked Andrew Thomas' derriere (just thinking of the Sheldon Richardson at edge experiment). If (just saying 'if') FSU's Cam Akers were somehow still available in the 3rd, thoughts?
If you play him as a stand-up EDGE, I think he cuts to 270. He reminds me A LOT of Melvin Ingram when he was playing for South Carolina. Super versatile front seven player that you can line up everywhere.
I don't know if we can take a back that early, but Akers is a solid fit.
Levonta Taylor: 1st round talent; is his back injury behind him?
No idea about his health, but he is far too talented to pass on in the late rounds.
Jeff Thomas: another huge talent/red flags. Guy was kicked off by Mark Richt, was going to go home to the Illini, returned to UM when Manny Diaz became HC (however Diaz ended up suspending him as well). His combine didn't help either. Anyway, if his head's screwed on, big time talent and a potential steal in (imho) a smaller ODB package.
In the right situation, he can be a star. The only players more explosive than Thomas in this class are Ruggs, Lamb, and Hamler.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107686/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-giants-snag-wr-in-round-4
not a fan of this
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Draft the Terps!
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107686/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-giants-snag-wr-in-round-4
not a fan of this
This guy knows nothing about the Jets.
If that's how the draft fell I would have no problem with trading back a few spots, but not so it takes us out of position for 1 of the 3 players we want only to draft a safety/slot cb in the 3rd...
freak off
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107686/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-giants-snag-wr-in-round-4
not a fan of this
Brutal.
And in addition to the 4th round link you posted above:
- 1st round: has the Jets trading down and missing out on Jedrick Wills who's available in order to pick Chaisson.
- 2nd round: Madubuike, DT, just what the doctor ordered.
- 3rd round: Reagor at #68 (still available?); #78 Antoine Winfried, Safety; #79 Ben Bartch, OT (St. John's)
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accidental double post - sorry
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That is the worst mock draft for the Jets that I have ever seen
I could draft 7 running backs and it would be a better draft than that
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Brutal.
And in addition to the 4th round link you posted above:
- 1st round: has the Jets trading down and missing out on Jedrick Wills who's available in order to pick Chaisson.
- 2nd round: Madubuike, DT, just what the doctor ordered.
- 3rd round: Reagor at #68 (still available?); #78 Antoine Winfried, Safety; #79 Ben Bartch, OT (St. John's)
I got more offended the further i moved down each round.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107686/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-giants-snag-wr-in-round-4
not a fan of this
Lol at Winfield Jr
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TDN's Joe Marino's Monday Mock:
Henry Ruggs III - WR - Alabama
Ezra Cleveland - OT - Boise State
Julian Okwara - EDGE - Notre Dame
Troy Pride - CB - Notre Dame
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I like this one a lot and I think it's realistic.
Ruggs is a game-changer.
Cleveland is a great scheme fit and would likely be a first rounder in most years. Deep class pushed him down. Okwara is a first round talent that falls due to a freak injury.
Pride is insanely fast and has the tools to be really good man-to-man corner in the NFL. Underrated right now.
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https://www.pff.com/news/the-pff-analytics-mock-draft-2-0
- Jets take Lamb at 11
- Giants take Ruggs over Chase Young at #4
- Jedrick Wills goes to GB at #30
- Becton isn't drafted in the first round
Let the PFF hate continue...
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https://www.pff.com/news/the-pff-analytics-mock-draft-2-0
- Jets take Lamb at 11
- Giants take Ruggs over Chase Young at #4
- Jedrick Wills goes to GB at #30
- Becton isn't drafted in the first round
Let the PFF hate continue...
lmao
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Auburn OT Jack Driscoll over Becton and Wills
What a bunch of nerds
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^ first draft: would like an OT, but Ruggs is kinda (very) tempting; like the ND guys
^ 2nd draft: PFF = clueless
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-redskins-shock-with-tua-tagovailoa-pick-plus-more-results-from-cbs-sports-hq-live-mock/live/
Here's one from today via CBS Sports:
- "the 4 OT's" go in the top 10
- Washington drafts Tua at #2
- Tampa Bay trades up for the Panthers' #7 to draft Jedrick Wills
- Dolphins at #5 draft Simmons then trade for the Jets' #11 pick to draft QB Love
- Jets at #18 select OT Jones
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^ first draft: would like an OT, but Ruggs is kinda (very) tempting; like the ND guys
^ 2nd draft: PFF = clueless
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-redskins-shock-with-tua-tagovailoa-pick-plus-more-results-from-cbs-sports-hq-live-mock/live/
Here's one from today NFL.com:
- "the 4 OT's" go in the top 10
- Washington drafts Tua at #2
- Tampa Bay trades up for the Panthers' #7 to draft Jedrick Wills
- Dolphins at #5 draft Simmons then trade for the Jets' #11 pick to draft QB Love
- Jets at #18 select OT Jones
Not a fan of trading down with the Fish, but I am a fan of them taking Love, but the package we would get especially for trading with a divisional rival is garbage
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I did a four round mock with little to no knowledge and here's how I fared:
11 Jedrick Wills OT
48 Brandon Aiyuk WR
68 Ben Bredeson IOL
79 Kenny Willekes EDGE
120 Michael Pittman Jr. WR
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I did a four round mock with little to no knowledge and here's how I fared:
11 Jedrick Wills OT
48 Brandon Aiyuk WR
68 Ben Bredeson IOL
79 Kenny Willekes EDGE
120 Michael Pittman Jr. WR
no punters?
I'm calling Hornet.
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https://twitter.com/egreenbergjets/status/1248234209388515328?s=21
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https://twitter.com/egreenbergjets/status/1248234209388515328?s=21
That is an ideal pair
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1st time doing a TDN Mock Draft.
#11 - Jedrick Wills, OT
#48 - Jalen Reagor, WR
#68 - Damon Arnette, CB
#79 - Chase Claypool, WR
#120 - Soloman Kindley, OL
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1st time doing a TDN Mock Draft.
#11 - Jedrick Wills, OT
#48 - Jalen Reagor, WR
#68 - Damon Arnette, CB
#79 - Chase Claypool, WR
#120 - Soloman Kindley, OL
I'll take it
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PFF has a new mock simulator. Warning that it's stupid and dumb because it's PFF. https://www.pff.com/draft/nfl-mock-draft-simulator
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That draft would make most Jets fans cream their pants.
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Wasn't planning on going all offense, but it just fell this way.
#11 - Jedrick Wills, OT
#48 - KJ Hamler, WR
#68 - Michael Pittman, WR
#79 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB
#120 - Tyler Biadasz, OL
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This is amazing
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PFF does not think highly of Mt Becton
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Dane Brugler from the Athletic did a 7 rounder...here’s how the Jets did
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It’s a good haul on the surface. I just am unhappy drafting only one WR in general, but if our only we selection was an oft injured WR, I would have serious concerns about that.
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Charlie Campbell's latest mock on wf:
11. New York Jets: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (Wills, Lamb, Becton, Wirfs all off the board)
48. New York Jets: Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
68. New York Jets: Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC
79. New York Jets: K.J. Hamler, WR, Penn State
120. New York Jets: Darrell Taylor, 3-4OLB/OLB, Tennessee
158. New York Jets: Jake Hansen, C, Oregon
191. New York Jets: A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma State
211. New York Jets: DeeJay Dallas, RB, Miami
I can get down with this.
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Pittman and Hamler are likely going earlier than this suggests, but that’s a pretty good first 4 picks. I’d just hope we could do better than Jake Hansen as our interior OL addition.
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Pittman and Hamler are likely going earlier than this suggests
Hakeem Butler. Kelvin Harmon. excrement happens.
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Mel Kiper Jr. has a 2-round mock draft out today on ESPN. He has the Jets taking Alabama OT Jedrick Wills Jr. in the first round and Notre Dame WR Chase Claypool in the second. #nyj
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I'd be cool with that
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Lots of analysts predicting Jedrick Wills falling to us now.
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Lots of analysts predicting Jedrick Wills falling to us now.
I'm down with that.
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I'd be cool with that
What's the scoop on Claypool? How does he stack up to some of the "2nd tier" WRs (Reagor, Mims, etc...) being talked about on the board?
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These mocks all look good, but none of them have the Jets going heavy on WR. I'm of the opinion that if there ever was a year to double-dip in the WR pool, this is it.
I want 2 WRs in the first 4 rounds, preferably in the first 3 rounds.
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Lots of analysts predicting Jedrick Wills falling to us now.
Any clue why?
I'm assuming people or proposing Becton over Wills, but there still needs to be 1-2 more "surprises". Whether that is a DT or a WR going ahead of us.
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Any clue why?
I'm assuming people or proposing Becton over Wills, but there still needs to be 1-2 more "surprises". Whether that is a DT or a WR going ahead of us.
Becton and Wirfs over Wills, but I feel like these mock drafts are designed as clickbait as well and offensive tackles are not sexy picks.
I'd be shocked if Becton/Wirfs/Wills make it out of the top 10.
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Cimini did a mock draft
https://twitter.com/chriscarlin/status/1250624092862132233?s=21
1- Mekhi Becton
2- Michael Pittman
3- Damon Annette
3- Van Jefferson
4- Curtis Weaver
5- Cam Akers
6- Jon Runyan
6- Rashard Lawrence
If only talent would last that long in real life
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#Makhai
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ROUND 1: (No. 11)
Iowa OL Tristan Wirfs
The Jets get their first break in a draft filled with good fortune when the ultra-athletic Wirfs lands in their laps. The 6-4, 320-pounder is a super-freak that tested off the charts at the Scouting Combine. He might not have the desirable long arms to play tackle, but his athleticism and explosiveness should mitigate those concerns. Wirfs played the bulk of three seasons on the right side (29 of 33 starts). He has the ability to transition to the left, but the smart money is that Wirfs is the Day 1 starting right tackle with veteran George Fant protecting Darnold’s blindside in 2020.
ROUND 2: (No. 48)
TCU WR Jalen Reagor
Adam Gase gets an electric addition to help pull his offense out of the doldrums. The Jets wanted to bring more juice to the table. The 5-11, 206-pound Reagor might not be a giant, but he has the game speed to take it to the house from anywhere on the field. His statistical dip last season (43 catches, 611 yards, 5 TDs) was more a reflection of his inexperienced quarterback than him. Reagor, who averaged 17 yards per punt return in three seasons, will also instantly improve special teams. He’ll provide an instant jolt to Gase’s offense and the return game. The biggest question: Will he make it to No. 48?
ROUND 3: (No. 68)
Temple C Matt Hennessy
The Jets would love nothing more than to shore up the pivot for the next decade and slide Connor McGovern to guard. Hennessy has the lateral quickness, high football I.Q. and toughness to aid Darnold for the foreseeable future. He’s an ideal fit for Gang Green’s zone-blocking scheme. The 6-4, 307-pound Hennessy, whose older brother, Thomas, is the Jets’ long-snapper, more than makes up for his lack of brute strength by checking just about every other box.
ROUND 3: (No. 79)
Utah S Terrell Burgess
Gregg Williams gets some help with a versatile piece on the back end. Although the 5-11, 202-pound Burgess isn’t the most imposing physical presence, he’s a heady player with a varied skillset that could be moved around in Williams’ scheme. Burgess opened eyes in his first year moving from cornerback to safety. He can cover in the slot and play the deep middle. Williams’ depth chart isn’t linear. A player like Burgess can offer immediate value doing several jobs.
Williams’ teammate Bradlee Anae is a serious consideration in this spot. Anae’s motor as an edge rusher would be a welcomed addition. Louisiana Tech ball-hawking cornerback Amik Robertson would help here too, but Burgess’ versatility is too much to pass up.
ROUND 4: (No. 120)
Kentucky WR Lynn Bowden Jr.
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Gase gets another versatile piece to his puzzle with a quarterback-turned wideout with plenty of promise. The 5-11, 204-pound Bowden still has to refine his route-running, but he has tantalizing open-field awareness and elusiveness that make him a worthwhile Day 3 pick. Bowden also offers plenty of immediate special teams value with a 22-plus yards per punt and kick return average. He has the tools to be a quality contributor.
ROUND 5: (No. 158)
Kansas OT Hakeem Adeniji
Douglas adds a high-character football junkie with foot quickness in the trenches. The 6-4, 302-pound Adeniji started 48 consecutive games (43 at left tackle) on the edge before showing versatility by sliding inside during Senior Bowl week. He’s a fundamentally sound player with plenty of zone-blocking experience who would be a quality choice if he slipped to the fifth round. He could play three or four positions at the next level.
ROUND 6: (No. 191)
Texas A&M P Braden Mann
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Mann, who averaged 51 yards per punt in the past two seasons, has a cannon for a leg. He broke the single-season collegiate record for punting average en route to winning the Ray Guy Award as the nation’s best punter in 2018. The Jets, who let Lachlan Edwards walk in free agency, were interested in signing veteran Sam Martin in free agency before he landed in Denver. Mann would be a relatively inexpensive field flipper, who’s also adept at directional punting. This might wind up being a sneaky great selection.
ROUND 6: (No. 211)
Oregon WR Juwan Johnson
The Jets swing for the fences with their third wideout of the draft class. The 6-4, 230-pound Johnson has the physical traits to excel. He’ll need quality coaching to improve his route-running, but the tools are there. Johnson must show that he’s all-in. There’s plenty of untapped potential.
Manish
Good, realistic mock here. I would rather take the aforementioned Anae or Robertson with our second 3rd rounder though.
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If we took Terrell Burgess over Amik Robertson, I would be be pissed
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The only way a true safety being taken that high makes any sense is if Adams is traded, an agenda item Manish is pushing hard. Take Robertson and profit there
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Manish
Good, realistic mock here. I would rather take the aforementioned Anae or Robertson with our second 3rd rounder though.
Love that 6th rd pick
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Love that 6th rd pick
One shank and you would be losing your excrement and you know it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSse2wgJZ58
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Manish
Good, realistic mock here. I would rather take the aforementioned Anae or Robertson with our second 3rd rounder though.
6 offensive players 3 being lineman. Yes please.
I don't think picking a safety is that asinine if he can also play the slot. Poole is on a one year deal, Maye gets injured all the time and we have no depth at either position. I know nothing about the player but i think the idea is pretty interesting.
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PFF does not think highly of Mt Becton
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