Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: bojanglesman on August 11, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
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Fight with Penguin. Broke his jaw. Penguin released. What the freak?
Geno out 6-10 weeks. Broken jaw. IK Enemkpali punched him in the locker room this AM. IK was released.
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You can't make this excrement up.
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Those wanting Fitz, you got your wish.
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Oh my god
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Un-freaking-believeable
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This should be an interesting story.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF
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Schefter: Am told Jets' QB Geno Smith's jaw was broken in two places. Now out 6-10 weeks.
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somebody let Badger into TC.
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Lol he was "sucker punched" by the penguin.
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Fight with Penguin. Broke his jaw. Penguin released. What the freak?
So SORRY to interrupt.
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somebody let Badger into TC.
Ha.
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Was that dick at camp today?
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#Cardale2016
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I was actually considering attending practice today before it was moved indoors.
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What a freaking moron. Punching your quarterback?
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You guys want it, you got it. Right? No one here wanted Geno to start 10 minutes ago.
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This redefines embarrassing.
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I guess you have to find out the details, but not really. Unless Geno fucked his Mom or something, Penguin is an idiot.
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You guys want it, you got it. Right? No one here wanted Geno to start 10 minutes ago.
very true. people need to be careful what they wish for
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Who the freak is Penguin? Is this a joke?
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.............On the next episode of Ballers
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Does anyone think Fitzpatrick is really Tonya Harding?
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Idzik is the gift that keeps on giving
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That 2013 draft is one to remember...
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Never mind, looked it up. One of the Idzik 12.
Oh well, it might have saved our season. Sign Vinny.
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this never would have happened if Rex were still here. At least he could control the locker room.
#circus
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That's amazing.
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Is this real life?
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Rapoport: Word is Geno Smith put his finger in the face of IK Enemkpali’s during and argument that wasn’t getting difused. Then came the punch
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freak this. I don't find any humor in a player in the locker room breaking his own teammate's jaw. We will never hear the end of this.
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Holy excrement. You can't make this stuff up.
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this never would have happened if Rex were still here. At least he could control the locker room.
#circus
Could you imagine the reaction here if Rex was the coach when this happened?
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this never would have happened if Rex were still here. At least he could control the locker room.
#circus
#wewantrexbackbyweIreallymeanbadgerwantshimbackbadlybadgerisinlovewithrex
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6-10 weeks. Oddly enough, that was probably our record with Geno in there.
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Rapoport: Word is Geno Smith put his finger in the face of IK Enemkpali’s during and argument that wasn’t getting difused. Then came the punch
Geno thinks he has cred with his teammates....that's cute.
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Probably going to end up being the most impactful play of IK's career.
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Geno thinks he has cred with his teammates....that's cute.
freak off. This is ugly.
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You think Geno asked him to pull his finger?
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Rapoport: Word is Geno Smith put his finger in the face of IK Enemkpali’s during and argument that wasn’t getting difused. Then came the punch
Heard it went down like this:
IK: You ain't excrement yo, you suck.
Geno: What kind of first name is IK? is EYE KAY, ICK, what? And don't even get me started on your last name. Half the team couldn't pronounce it.
IK: BOOM <throws haymaker>
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What.. the.. freak
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You think Geno asked him to pull his finger?
Lol
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freak off. This is ugly.
(http://entropymag.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/glass-joe.jpg)
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There's nothing funny about this. We're a freaking circus. The excrement just never goes away.
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6-10 weeks. Oddly enough, that was probably our record with Geno in there.
Probably going to end up being the most impactful play of IK's career.
So far these are my two favorite lines.
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There's nothing funny about this. We're a freaking circus. The excrement just never goes away.
You're right, and I'm infuriated about this. But if you can't find the humor in this...
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You're right, and I'm infuriated about this. But if you can't find the humor in this...
I mean, if it were any other team I would be laughing my derriere off, but those things always happen to us, for freak's sake.
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I'm sorry but this is funny. If it were a QB who had won anything for us ever it wouldn't be as funny, but it's Geno who most of us wanted gone anyway. He seems like a nice guy and I'm sorry this happened to him, but it's still funny.
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Yeah, it really is quite funny. I didn't want him in the team in the first place and if he's getting up in some 270lb dude's face then he probably can't complain about getting a smack.
I'm legitimately more excited for the season ahead than I was 15 minutes ago.
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Not funny. Our franchise is a freaking joke. (Not a funny joke.)
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Maybe Enemkpali should get into boxing since he's been cut.
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Not funny. Our franchise is a freaking joke.
Ditto
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mike freeman @mikefreemanNFL 2m2 minutes ago
Ronda Rousey said the Jets locker room fight was way too long.
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Cimini: IK Enemkpali has a history of bad temper. Had a bar fight in college, pleaded down to simple battery. Jets knew about it before '14 draft.
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Geno shouldnt have been sticking his finger in another niggas face anyways. Not only is excrement like that suspect, on a serious note its below the leadership/smarts of expected of a starting qb. Yeah players are going to get heated and itll want them to go at each other, but hes got to know as the starting qb hes got to be bigger than that.
We dont even know the full details yet but i guarantee if geno doesnt poke him in the face, IK wouldnt have gone nigga mode and broken his jaw in two places. My god, it must have been some freaking connection he made on the punch. This excrement really is unbelievable
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Say what you want about Sanchez, but I can't imagine anyone doing that to him in the locker room.
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I think it's hilarious. I refuse to be a woe is me guy.
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Not funny. Our franchise is a freaking joke. (Not a funny joke.)
Yup. Franchise doesn't deserve success and we all deserve to be miserable every football season for supporting this dumpster fire.
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Cris Carter on ESPN right now: "I believe no player should deserve to have his jaw broke"
lol
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Yup. Franchise doesn't deserve success and we all deserve to be miserable every football season for supporting this dumpster fire.
Put the pity party away. Fitzpatrick clearly deserves to be the starting QB and now he is. If he starts the season well this will just be an amusing footnote.
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Put the pity party away. Fitzpatrick clearly deserves to be the starting QB and now he is. If he starts the season well this will just be an amusing footnote.
"Footnote?" Are you new to the way the media works with the Jets?
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Put the pity party away. Fitzpatrick clearly deserves to be the starting QB and now he is. If he starts the season well this will just be an amusing footnote.
He was shitting the bed in training camp too. I don't see how he "clearly deserves" to be the starting QB. I don't like Geno but we're not upgrading really.
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I've had a vision. Fitzpatrick will get injured in the third preseason game, Petty will come in to start the season and lead us to an 11-5 finish and the playoffs. Ik Enemkpali goes down as having done a Mo Lewis and we all laugh about this forever more.
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Put the pity party away. Fitzpatrick clearly deserves to be the starting QB and now he is. If he starts the season well this will just be an amusing footnote.
Wrong. This is going to be the butt fumble times ten. This isn't the future of the team young draft pick rising up to take the reins too early. We're going to a middling journeyman QB after a promising start to the offseason. The last impression people are going to have of Geno is that he was starting to put it together under a new OC who liked him and what he could do for the team. Geno probably would have failed on the field and lost his job. THAT is how I wanted him gone. This is the worst way for it to happen, and the timing is terrible. He hasn't even played in a preseason game to show that he's still the same Geno.
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"Footnote?" Are you new to the way the media works with the Jets?
No, he's just insanely delusional.
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Dumb.
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No, he's just insanely delusional.
but Bryce Petty
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I just had a non-Jets fan txt me about this and I figured it was a joke.
Nope.
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I wonder if the Jets need to sign a QB? If Geno is out more than 6 weeks, do you want to risk having Petty play at all with an injury to Fitz? Heaps is just a camp arm.
I'm sure there is some trash somewhere that could be serviceable for part of a game. Flynn or someone like that.
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I've had a vision. Fitzpatrick will get injured in the third preseason game, Petty will come in to start the season and lead us to an 11-5 finish and the playoffs. Ik Enemkpali goes down as having done a Mo Lewis and we all laugh about this forever more.
Whether you're kidding or not....Bryce Petty is not ready to be the starter.
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Put the pity party away. Fitzpatrick clearly deserves to be the starting QB and now he is. If he starts the season well this will just be an amusing footnote.
freak off, I don't give a excrement about whether Geno would have been good this season or not. Our teams starting QB got sucker punched by a scrub in the locker room. That is a freaking embarrassment no matter how well Fitzpatrick or the rest of the team does this season.
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I just don't care what the media or opposition fans say. The only thing I'm interested in is performance on the field, and I'm more confident about it now than I was this morning.
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I just had a non-Jets fan txt me about this and I figured it was a joke.
Nope.
I've got some top notch death threats written up that I've been sending out to the people that have been texting me, let me know if you're in need.
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Who here would ever be tempted to hit a face like that?
(https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ap-jets-camp-football2.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
Not me man.
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Bring back Vick.
HAHAHAHA. What a freaking never ending joke it is supporting this team.
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but Bryce Petty
I like Bryce Petty. I hope he plays well for us in the future. I don't want Geno starting for this team. I just also recognize that this was the worst way for this to happen.
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freak off, I don't give a excrement about whether Geno would have been good this season or not. Our teams starting QB got sucker punched by a scrub in the locker room. That is a freaking embarrassment no matter how well Fitzpatrick or the rest of the team does this season.
Exactly. no one here is crying for the loss of a shitty quarterback. Every time you watch a jets game this year all you are going to freaking hear about is Sheldon Richardson and Geno's jaw.
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Whether you're kidding or not....Bryce Petty is not ready to be the starter.
But we have such a great track record of throwing rookies in to replace injured starters. What could go wrong?
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Exactly. no one here is crying for the loss of a shitty quarterback. Every time you watch a jets game this year all you are going to freaking hear about is Sheldon Richardson and Geno's jaw.
yeah, the mute button will be used perpetually this year.
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What a bunch of SOJF's.
You burn the roof of your mouth on Pizza, do you stop eating it?
Geno Smith The Jets are the pizza.
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again, i will wait for the full story/details to come out. but geno has to know that poking teammates in the face is an action below the conduct of a starting QB. you dont have to be a star, but being a starting QB means something
id like to see obama poke some lowly, unappreciative intern in the face and see how that comes off, see how people would take an act like that
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I was actually a little bummed it was Penguin. Thought he was playing fairly well so far. Oh well, enjoy your $15/hour Penguin.
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Geno Smith on Instagram posted a pic and said "ILL BE BACK!" Can't upload it here for some reason.
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again, i will wait for the full story/details to come out. but geno has to know that poking teammates in the face is an action below the conduct of a starting QB. you dont have to be a star, but being a starting QB means something
id like to see obama poke some lowly, unappreciative intern in the face and see how that comes off, see how people would take an act like that
The finger/face thing was what Rapoport heard, it isn't fact.
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again, i will wait for the full story/details to come out. but geno has to know that poking teammates in the face is an action below the conduct of a starting QB. you dont have to be a star, but being a starting QB means something
id like to see obama poke some lowly, unappreciative intern in the face and see how that comes off, see how people would take an act like that
He prolly shoulda just cold cocked IK first, amirite?
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This is the worst way for it to happen, and the timing is terrible. He hasn't even played in a preseason game to show that he's still the same Geno.
Would have been worse it this happened right before the first regular season game, not pre-season game. There's a whole pre-season and a month to work around it now.
freak off, I don't give a excrement about whether Geno would have been good this season or not. Our teams starting QB got sucker punched by a scrub in the locker room. That is a freaking embarrassment no matter how well Fitzpatrick or the rest of the team does this season.
I do agree with this.
#KeepRex
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He prolly shoulda just cold cocked IK first, amirite?
The best defense is a good offense.
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He prolly shoulda just cold cocked IK first, amirite?
Geno Smith breaks hand in fight, out 4-6 weeks
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Geno on Instagram: "I'LL BE BACK!"
https://instagram.com/genosmith7/
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Geno on Instagram: "I'LL BE BACK!"
https://instagram.com/genosmith7/
OK. Now it's funny.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg
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I wonder if Geno could come back a little earlier with that injury? It isn't a functional injury (arm/leg). As far as I know, he doesn't throw the football with his face, so it would be a matter of pain tolerance and avoiding shots to the head. You can't guarantee that I guess. How soon did Anquan Boldin come back from it a few years ago?
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If there was only a hidden gem behind Geno, this wouldn't be a problem.
Too bad Petty isn't a viable option.
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Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is a moron. As Iggy said, this team gets no better taking a guy off the field. Lose the job legit? Fine, but not like this. This was a third year QB with potential, even if he's been below average up to this point.
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OK. Now it's funny.
3rd comment down:
andres.ortegaYOU GOT KNOCKED THA freak OUT
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The finger/face thing was what Rapoport heard, it isn't fact.
yeah i understand, which is why ill wait. something had to have ignited this thing in the first place though, he wouldnt have punched him for nothing
i laughed at this at first just because of how unbelievable it is. the one thing i 100% believe right now is that it was an unexpected sucker punch, that's the only way i can imagine somebody being able to make such a connection on a punch that it broke it jn two places. geno was a still target, and the punch was unexpected. no way somebody could make contact like that if it was a scuffle where the target was moving and could attack/defend himself in some way
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He prolly shoulda just cold cocked IK first, amirite?
Would have been infinitely better that way. I'm laughing at the idea that starting QBs never confront players.
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What.
The.
freak.
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I was actually a little bummed it was Penguin. Thought he was playing fairly well so far. Oh well, enjoy your $15/hour Penguin.
Maybe Terrance Ganaway can get Penguin a job at the local Jimmy Johns.
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Geno is a hoo-ha, this happened 2 years ago: Derek Stepan had his jaw broken, had surgery and had it wired shut. He was back the next game:
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(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2725442/penguin-do-a-falcon-punch-o.gif)
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yeah i understand, which is why ill wait. something had to have ignited this thing in the first place though, he wouldnt have punched him for nothing
i laughed at this at first just because of how unbelievable it is. the one thing i 100% believe right now is that it was an unexpected sucker punch, that's the only way i can imagine somebody being able to make such a connection on a punch that it broke it jn two places. geno was a still target, and the punch was unexpected. no way somebody could make contact like that if it was a scuffle where the target was moving and could attack/defend himself in some way
Exactly my thoughts.
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Would have been worse it this happened right before the first regular season game, not pre-season game. There's a whole pre-season and a month to work around it now.
I do agree with this.
#KeepRex
It only would have been worse if Geno had performed well in the preseason. A lot of people here are saying it's no big deal because Geno was destined to fail. Three freaking days. If the guy failed on Thursday, this wouldn't be as big of a deal. The fact that he has had a good camp, has the good graces of his new OC, and is now knocked out by one of his teammates completely changes the way this gets perceived, internally too. He's going to be given an opportunity when he comes back, and if he fails it'll be midseason. I'd rather have gotten that look at him in the preseason.
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I will say this: I was legitimately more pissed off and embarrassed on the day we traded for Tebow.
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I wonder if Geno could come back a little earlier with that injury? It isn't a functional injury (arm/leg). As far as I know, he doesn't throw the football with his face, so it would be a matter of pain tolerance and avoiding shots to the head. You can't guarantee that I guess. How soon did Anquan Boldin come back from it a few years ago?
They'd have to find a system of getting the plays in and somehow communicating to his players. The snap changes, too.
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It only would have been worse if Geno had performed well in the preseason. A lot of people here are saying it's no big deal because Geno was destined to fail. Three freaking days. If the guy failed on Thursday, this wouldn't be as big of a deal. The fact that he has had a good camp, has the good graces of his new OC, and is now knocked out by one of his teammates completely changes the way this gets perceived, internally too. He's going to be given an opportunity when he comes back, and if he fails it'll be midseason. I'd rather have gotten that look at him in the preseason.
Are we so sure about that though? If Fitz does well in preseason and the first few games in Sept, then it would be tough to bench him for Geno.
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It only would have been worse if Geno had performed well in the preseason. A lot of people here are saying it's no big deal because Geno was destined to fail. Three freaking days. If the guy failed on Thursday, this wouldn't be as big of a deal. The fact that he has had a good camp, has the good graces of his new OC, and is now knocked out by one of his teammates completely changes the way this gets perceived, internally too. He's going to be given an opportunity when he comes back, and if he fails it'll be midseason. I'd rather have gotten that look at him in the preseason.
No argument here, let's face it it's not a good thing. QB is out, regardless of how or why.
I'm just saying it's not the end of the world because 1--there's time to adjust and 2--he isn't that good.
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Fitz is an injury risk too. If he goes down, then we're really fucked.
From a roster depth perspective, this sucks.
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Look at it this way, at least Geno won't get hurt in the next 6-10 weeks.
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This is a shitty situation, I admit. Oh well I am not going to stop laughing at how dumb this entire ordeal is.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
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They'd have to find a system of getting the plays in and somehow communicating to his players. The snap changes, too.
True.
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I have mixed emotions about this.
Penguin just through his career away. He could have hung around a few teams for years as a depth guy and got paid a nice chunk of money to practice. Dumbass.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
Fair enough, and at the same time, it freaking sucks that the uncontrollable actions of that one scrub reflect on the entire organization.
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I think IK saw that jetoffensive.com was a little slow lately.
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Look at it this way, at least Geno won't get hurt in the next 6-10 weeks.
He might pee off the Dr or worse, nurse.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
I'm wondering how this will affect the locker room going forward. Nobody wants a rift.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
Locker room fights happen all the time. The fact that it was a sucker punch means no one expected it to go down that way most likely.
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Bart Hubbuch @BartHubbuch 11m11 minutes ago
No laughing at the Jets if your favorite team gave $40 million to a tight end who turned out to be a serial killer.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
I'd put money on it being something that started somewhere else and was somewhat settled, then IK coming back in and blindsiding him after thinking he needed to prove he was a man or some similar inane thought. As others said, you need to throw a perfect punch to do damage like that, and Geno probably had no clue.
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The big thing no one here has hit on yet is what does this say about the locker room and the way Smith is looked at by his teammates.
How does an argument between some scrub and the starting QB escalate to the point this happens? Nobody steps in? Nobody tells them to knock off the bullshit?
Very weird.
How often does this happen? Like rarely if ever. It could have happened fast or they could have figured it's two adults/teammates nobody is going to hurt the other one. That's just as easy to believe as he is universally hated and this is the end result.
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I'm wondering how this will affect the locker room going forward. Nobody wants a rift.
I think this is an isolated incident. Problem child is gone.
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Fuggin glass-jaw Geno
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So apparently Geno threw the first punch but it landed a few yards short and was intercepted.
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No argument here, let's face it it's not a good thing. QB is out, regardless of how or why.
I'm just saying it's not the end of the world because 1--there's time to adjust and 2--he isn't that good.
I don't think anyone is lamenting it because they think the season is lost.
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So apparently Geno threw the first punch but it landed a few yards short and was intercepted.
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If Fitz sucks, Geno will get his job back in short order when he returns. If Fitz plays really well, that'll be a good problem to have. The only tough part is if Fitz gets hurt in the first week or 2. Revive the Kerley-cat for the rest of the game and track down Tyler Thigpen.
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So apparently Geno threw the first punch but it landed a few yards short and was intercepted.
Hahahaha
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If Fitz sucks, Geno will get his job back in short order when he returns. If Fitz plays really well, that'll be a good problem to have. The only tough part is if Fitz gets hurt in the first week or 2. Revive the Kerley-cat for the rest of the game and track down Tyler Thigpen.
Matt Flynn's looking for a job.
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This had to have been an escalation of an obvious argument. This guy had to figure he was done for if he punches the starting QB.
I'll wait for the facts to come out, if they do, but everyone here has played some sport of some kind and has been in a locker room before. Teammates argue, happens all the time...other teammates usually step in if it's getting THAT heated.
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This had to have been an escalation of an obvious argument. This guy had to figure he was done for if he punches the starting QB.
I'll wait for the facts to come out, if they do, but everyone here has played some sport of some kind and has been in a locker room before. Teammates argue, happens all the time...other teammates usually step in if it's getting THAT heated.
Not necessarily. I got jumped by an idiot on my team, no warning.
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If Fitz sucks, Geno will get his job back in short order when he returns. If Fitz plays really well, that'll be a good problem to have. The only tough par is if Fitz gets hurt in the first week or 2. Revive the Kerley-cat for the rest of the game and track down Tyler Thigpen.
The other option is to complete the JE trifecta.
1) Hated Eyedzik and wanted him fired. Check
2) Hated Geno and didn't want him to start. Check
3) Trade for Tyler Bray, insert into starting lineup.
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Matt Flynn's looking for a job.
I think he's hurt actually.
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This had to have been an escalation of an obvious argument. This guy had to figure he was done for if he punches the starting QB.
I'll wait for the facts to come out, if they do, but everyone here has played some sport of some kind and has been in a locker room before. Teammates argue, happens all the time...other teammates usually step in if it's getting THAT heated.
According to Costello...he reported Bowles said that the argument wasn't even football related and that it was childish in nature. So if it wasn't football related, why the hell is Geno's finger in Penguin's face?
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This had to have been an escalation of an obvious argument. This guy had to figure he was done for if he punches the starting QB.
I'll wait for the facts to come out, if they do, but everyone here has played some sport of some kind and has been in a locker room before. Teammates argue, happens all the time...other teammates usually step in if it's getting THAT heated.
Apparently Penguin has temper issue. Those types sometimes just do excrement without thinking.
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This had to have been an escalation of an obvious argument. This guy had to figure he was done for if he punches the starting QB.
I'll wait for the facts to come out, if they do, but everyone here has played some sport of some kind and has been in a locker room before. Teammates argue, happens all the time...other teammates usually step in if it's getting THAT heated.
Again, he was sucker punched, which means it didn't escalate to the point where anyone expected a punch to be thrown. I'm sure if they really got in each other's faces someone would've stepped in.
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According to Costello...he reported Bowles said that the argument wasn't even football related and that it was childish in nature. So if it wasn't football related, why the hell is Geno's finger in Penguin's face?
No one knows about the finger in the face thing. It was a rumor.
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1st 3 picks of 2013 draft:
1) Milliner
2) Sheldon
3) Geno
Been a fun last 2 weeks.
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Not necessarily. I got jumped by an idiot on my team, no warning.
Yeah, but it's.....
You
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Apparently Tyler Thigpen might be the next man up. He had success with Gailey....7 years ago.
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Again, he was sucker punched, which means it didn't escalate to the point where anyone expected a punch to be thrown. I'm sure if they really got in each other's faces someone would've stepped in.
Nobody knows exactly what happened yet, so we're all jumping to conclusions.
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Apparently Tyler Thigpen might be the next man up. He had success with Gailey....7 years ago.
At least he knows the system.
/silver lining
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Yeah, but it's.....
You
I am a good team mate dick.
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Apparently Tyler Thigpen might be the next man up. He had success with Gailey....7 years ago.
He's the "oh excrement" option.
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Nobody knows exactly what happened yet, so we're all jumping to conclusions.
Stop whining like Italian Seafood and UKK. I should get you an earring.
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According to Costello...he reported Bowles said that the argument wasn't even football related and that it was childish in nature. So if it wasn't football related, why the hell is Geno's finger in Penguin's face?
If that's true, holy excrement, what a frigging moron.
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Apparently Tyler Thigpen might be the next man up. He had success with Gailey....7 years ago.
Come on. He hasn't thrown a pass since 2012.
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Stop whining like Italian Seafood and UKK. I should get you an earring.
I'm just sick of all the excrement that seemingly hangs around this team.
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I am a good team mate dick.
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Call the Bucs and inquire about Glennon?
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Call the Bucs and inquire about Glennon?
Just sign someone off the street...i don't want to give up any picks for a transition year.
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IK Enemkpali is Eager to hit a quarterback
http://www.scout.com/nfl/jets/story/1487171-ik-enemkpali-is-eager-to-hit-a-quarterback
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Call the Bucs and inquire about Glennon?
Not unless you are thinking about next year. Don't want to give up anything for a stopgap. Plenty of street FA QBs that can hold the fort until Geno gets back if Fitz gets hurt.
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http://www.scout.com/nfl/jets/story/1487171-ik-enemkpali-is-eager-to-hit-a-quarterback
bahaha.
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^ hahahaha
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The other option is to complete the JE trifecta.
1) Hated Eyedzik and wanted him fired. Check
2) Hated Geno and didn't want him to start. Check
3) Trade for Tyler Bray, insert into starting lineup.
YES. DO THIS NOW.
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Also, Tyler Bray wouldn't have sustained a broken jaw, his head is too large and too stupid to damage. He might have beaten the living excrement out of Enemkpali though.
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YES. DO THIS NOW.
I was wondering when you were going to notice that post.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1qhl9b/so_there_might_be_a_curse_involving_ryan/
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http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/8/11/9132525/geno-smith-jets-cris-carter-sucker-punch-leadership-nfl
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Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin 7m7 minutes ago
I'm told the #Jets reached out to Rex Grossman, who is dealing with an injury he suffered in training. Will need a few weeks to get ready.
my god.
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I hope they reach out to Brett Favre.
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I hope they reach out to Brett Favre.
freak you....Jeff George CAN STILL PLAY.
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probably the greatest thing to happen to the Jets in franchise history
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Boomer on Twitter is saying it was over money.
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Boomer on Twitter is saying it was over money.
WTF???
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You can't make this excrement up.
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You guys want it, you got it. Right? No one here wanted Geno to start 10 minutes ago.
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This redefines embarrassing.
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very true. people need to be careful what they wish for
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freak this. I don't find any humor in a player in the locker room breaking his own teammate's jaw. We will never hear the end of this.
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There's nothing funny about this. We're a freaking circus. The excrement just never goes away.
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Yup. Franchise doesn't deserve success and we all deserve to be miserable every football season for supporting this dumpster fire.
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you all knew this organization was a joke anyway, who cares about the media attention. Geno got punched in the face. this should be a day of celebration
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Boomer on Twitter is saying it was over money.
Penguin lent the money to Geno for this hat, and obviously wasn't reimbursed in a timely manner.
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Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 1m1 minute ago
Bowles said that he gave his word to Geno Smith and the former player that he wouldn't divulge the situation to the world. #JetsCamp #Jets
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BITCHES
You're right, this is great news. I'm glad we can share the same perspective. go Jets!!
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Boomer Esiason @7BOOMERESIASON 41m41 minutes ago
Bottom line if you owe somebody money pay your debt. Don't be surprised if you get punched in the face if you don't.
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Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 1m1 minute ago
Bowles said that he gave his word to Geno Smith and the former player that he wouldn't divulge the situation to the world. #JetsCamp #Jets
Pretty sure Bowles wasn't the only one there who could leak info about what happened.
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Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 1m1 minute ago
Bowles said that he gave his word to Geno Smith and the former player that he wouldn't divulge the situation to the world. #JetsCamp #Jets
He said that if the guys wanna talk about it they can, but he promised not to divulge the details. He did say it was childish and "a group of 6th graders could have talked it out better" which means this was retarded and they are idiots. Geno obvious said or did something to cause Ik to throw away his career. We just won't ever know what was said or done.
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Bob Glauber @BobGlauber 5m5 minutes ago
Todd Bowles said there's no guarantee Geno Smith gets his job back when he recovers from broken jaw. If FItzpatrick plays well, he sticks.
RIP Geno
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Best response in the thread. Well done.
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mike freeman @mikefreemanNFL 4m4 minutes ago
No one will punch Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's helping all players' kids prep for the SATs.
hahahaha
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"Apparently Fitzpatrick did have a punchers chance at the starting job"
Saw that one a few minutes ago.
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Bob Glauber @BobGlauber 5m5 minutes ago
Todd Bowles said there's no guarantee Geno Smith gets his job back when he recovers from broken jaw. If FItzpatrick plays well, he sticks.
RIP Geno
Should have been the plan all along. Only negative here is IK got cut and Geno won't be able to be the backup for a few weeks.
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Should have been the plan all along. Only negative here is IK got cut and Geno won't be able to be the backup for a few weeks.
Exactly this.
Also:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/11/bowles-says-fitzpatrick-could-keep-jets-starting-qb-job/
Doesn't sound like Bowles is painting Geno innocent in the whole thing.
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Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 4m4 minutes ago
According to a source, the Geno Smith/IK Enemkpali fight in the Jets locker room was indeed over money.
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"Apparently Fitzpatrick did have a punchers chance at the starting job"
Saw that one a few minutes ago.
LOL
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In what context? Ik doesn't make more than Geno, nor should he have, so what the freak went down? Also if Geno started a squabble over money... He deserves being punched for being that stupid
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I'm sure Panthers fans are utterly ashamed about their QB getting into a fight.
waitasekent
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In what context? Ik doesn't make more than Geno, nor should he have, so what the freak went down? Also if Geno started a squabble over money... He deserves being punched for being that stupid
Geno spent his whole paycheck on bucket hats.
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When Nate Robinson was a rookie with the Knicks he jumped a guy a foot bigger than him over a bet that wasn't paid. Can't remember off hand who it was but the guy was in the shower when Nate went after him.
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David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc 1h1 hour ago
Geno Smith out 6-10 weeks with broken jaw after 'sucker punch' http://es.pn/1IDiHj4 > Expect closer to 6 than 10.
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I'm sure Panthers fans are utterly ashamed about their QB getting into a fight.
waitasekent
You make bad comparisons and think they're smart.
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In what context? Ik doesn't make more than Geno, nor should he have, so what the freak went down? Also if Geno started a squabble over money... He deserves being punched for being that stupid
The rumour is that it was a bet.
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The rumour is that it was a bet.
Do we know if Geno won the bet or lost it? Because him winning the bet, being a dick about it and getting punched is kind of what I'm rooting for right now
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If geno squelched on a bet...freak him.
Bowles is right...this is senseless school yard bullshit.
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I'm sure Panthers fans are utterly ashamed about their QB getting into a fight.
waitasekent
Their QB didn't get his bitchass knocked out
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If geno squelched on a bet...freak him.
Bowles is right...this is senseless school yard bullshit.
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Doesn't even matter he obviously helped escalate it to that point. freak him and freak ik.
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Who is that?
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If geno squelched on a bet...freak him.
Bowles is right...this is senseless school yard bullshit.
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NFLN reporting that Geno owed IK money. So sounds like Geno made a bet, lost and said "freak that I ain't paying you excrement" so IK knocked him the freak out.
No wonder Bowles said he wasn't guaranteed his job back. That's school yard bullshit and frankly as Bowles said 6 year olds could handle it better.
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"Today was the best practice we've had" - Bowles
freak you Geno
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"Today was the best practice we've had" - Bowles
freak you Geno
LOL
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Good Lord, everybody's just guessing now.
Brian Costello @BrianCoz
Source said root of problem between Geno and IK was a charity event IK hosted in July ....
Geno was scheduled to appear but had to back out at last minute when he had a death of someone close to him. IK was upset ...
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Adam Schefter
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Story behind the punch that broke Geno Smith's jaw in two places:
At the heart of the dispute between former Jets LB IK Enemkpali and quarterback Geno Smith is $600 that Enemkpali believed Smith owed him, per league sources. Enemkpali purchased a plane ticket for Smith to attend his July 11 football camp at Pfugerville High School in Pfugerville, Texas. However, days before the camp, a person close to Smith was killed in a motorcycle accident in Miami and Smith did not attend Enemkpali’s camp, per sources. After Smith did not attend, Enemkpali demanded that the Jets’ quarterback refund him the $600 he allegedly used to purchase a plane ticket. Smith told Enemkpali he would reimburse him the money, but he did not. Enkempali confronted Smith today about the money and the confrontation ended in a punch and broken jaw.
Adam Schefter Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/1002847749767866)
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So aside from your opinion on this whole thing, the end result is the same as if the Jets had some sort of open QB competition and ultimately decided Fitz won. Fitz will start the season as the starter and will keep it as long as he deserves it. In the end, this is probably what the majority of Jets fans wanted before the camps started. Minus the whole drama with broken jaws.
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Who is IK to hold an event anyway?
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Who is IK to hold an event anyway?
An ex-NFL player.
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Adam Schefter
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Story behind the punch that broke Geno Smith's jaw in two places:
At the heart of the dispute between former Jets LB IK Enemkpali and quarterback Geno Smith is $600 that Enemkpali believed Smith owed him, per league sources. Enemkpali purchased a plane ticket for Smith to attend his July 11 football camp at Pfugerville High School in Pfugerville, Texas. However, days before the camp, a person close to Smith was killed in a motorcycle accident in Miami and Smith did not attend Enemkpali’s camp, per sources. After Smith did not attend, Enemkpali demanded that the Jets’ quarterback refund him the $600 he allegedly used to purchase a plane ticket. Smith told Enemkpali he would reimburse him the money, but he did not. Enkempali confronted Smith today about the money and the confrontation ended in a punch and broken jaw.
Adam Schefter Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/1002847749767866)
Good Lord. Idiots. Both of them.
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Two careers potentially ruined over $600.
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Who is IK to hold an event anyway?
I just LOL'd at the gym
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Bahaha.
Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 3m3 minutes ago
#Jets better without their starter? Bookmakers set to improve Jets Super Bowl odds with Geno out: http://www.metro.us/new-york/odds-for-jets-actually-improve-with-geno-smith-out-for-6-10-weeks/zsJohk---yqtV3hXFq9kzA/ … via @metronewyork
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So aside from your opinion on this whole thing, the end result is the same as if the Jets had some sort of open QB competition and ultimately decided Fitz won. Fitz will start the season as the starter and will keep it as long as he deserves it. In the end, this is probably what the majority of Jets fans wanted before the camps started. Minus the whole drama with broken jaws.
Yeah, but the missing part is that it sounded like Geno was "winning" whatever competition they had to this point. Most here has their own biases against Geno (and I wanted him replaced through the draft as much as the next guy), but if he was the best man for the job right now, this team took a step back. Maybe after the preseason, Fitz would have been named the starter, but thats not the way it seemed up until now. Granted, Fitz has been coming back from an injury...
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Bahaha.
Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 3m3 minutes ago
#Jets better without their starter? Bookmakers set to improve Jets Super Bowl odds with Geno out: http://www.metro.us/new-york/odds-for-jets-actually-improve-with-geno-smith-out-for-6-10-weeks/zsJohk---yqtV3hXFq9kzA/ … via @metronewyork
lol, thats great.
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Two careers potentially ruined over $600.
Black people
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You make bad comparisons and think they're smart.
It's a bad comparison because Newton is a real QB.
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Black people
Ha.
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Bahaha.
Kristian Dyer @KristianRDyer 3m3 minutes ago
#Jets better without their starter? Bookmakers set to improve Jets Super Bowl odds with Geno out: http://www.metro.us/new-york/odds-for-jets-actually-improve-with-geno-smith-out-for-6-10-weeks/zsJohk---yqtV3hXFq9kzA/ … via @metronewyork
I had us pegged for 5-11, maybe now we can reach 6-10.
Either one will launch an off-season of social media from the Jets touting their improvement.
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It's a bad comparison because Newton is a real QB.
And it happened in practice and he didn't get injured and it wasn't about money or something retarded.
I know you can't contain your glee but you were probably going to get to watch Fitzpatric not be very good without the entire organization being embarrassed.
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I'm struggling to see how the behaviour of a couple of childish twats reflects on the organisation, or more relevantly upon you. You seem to be taking this very personally.
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I'm struggling to see how the behaviour of a couple of childish twats reflects on the organisation, or more relevantly upon you. You seem to be taking this very personally.
Yes the best way to win the internet argument. Suggest the person who disagrees with you is letting this affect his life when he steps away from the keyboard. You're better than that, usually.
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I picked up one of my players for practice today and he told me that: "ESPN said some dude named Geno is out 10 weeks"
I thought he was kidding, but I checked Twitter anyway. I laughed at first, but then I read into the story and heard about the sucker punch.
IK should be charged with assault. As much as I dislike Geno Smith, this is completely ridiculous and unfair to him. I was hoping to see him make-or-break it in the preseason.
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I'm struggling to see how the behaviour of a couple of childish twats reflects on the organisation, or more relevantly upon you. You seem to be taking this very personally.
SOJF mentality.
"Woe is us we're so awful and the other kids are going to make fun of us."
This is a lot easier to deal with for people who don't let others tell them how to feel about their team.
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Yes the best way to win the internet argument. Suggest the person who disagrees with you is letting this affect his life when he steps away from the keyboard. You're better than that, usually.
You keep talking about how embarrassing it is. I don't understand why you would be embarrassed about something over which you have zero influence or control.
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As much as I dislike Geno Smith, this is completely ridiculous and unfair to him.
His career has been ridiculous and unfair to everyone else.
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$600? Jesus h Christ... Geno I realize somebody died, but you fucked the guy over at a charity event where he probably advertised the freak out of it saying the Jets starting QB is coming. Then you can't show, all the dude wanted was the money he paid for your ticket back, and not only did you say no, you did it in a way that the dude felt it was more important to knock your derriere out than it was to continue and have a career.
It's a drop in the bucket Geno, freaking give the man his money back. Although now I wouldn't, for obvious reasons
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Who is IK to hold an event anyway?
It's a camp. At the very least, he's a former college football player, which is more cred than most have.
What a couple of dumbasses.
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#BlackQBsMatter
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$600? Jesus h Christ... Geno I realize somebody died, but you fucked the guy over at a charity event where he probably advertised the freak out of it saying the Jets starting QB is coming. Then you can't show, all the dude wanted was the money he paid for your ticket back, and not only did you say no, you did it in a way that the dude felt it was more important to knock your derriere out than it was to continue and have a career.
It's a drop in the bucket Geno, freaking give the man his money back. Although now I wouldn't, for obvious reasons
And this is the guy who's supposed to lead the team by commanding the respect of the locker room.
He's so wildly unsuited to the job it's almost funny.
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#BlackQBsMatter
#ShitOnesDon't
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This is basically a chappelles show skit at this point. "I can keep collecting my half a million dollar paycheck, or punch this bitch in the face and get my $600."
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SOJF mentality.
"Woe is us we're so awful and the other kids are going to make fun of us."
This is a lot easier to deal with for people who don't let others tell them how to feel about their team.
You and JE with the strong ad hominem game today. Very impressive.
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Whoah, wait, it's not like Enekmpali was a white dove. He was already arrested for battery in 2011 after assaulting a cop. Who knows if his anger was actually justified.
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Whoah, wait, it's not like Enekmpali was a white dove. He was already arrested for battery in 2011 after assaulting a cop. Who knows if his anger was actually justified.
I'm not defending him, but that was a single isolated incident. We're not talking a repeat offender in the mold of a Pacman Jones or Josh Gordon.
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This is basically a chappelles show skit at this point. "I can keep collecting my half a million dollar paycheck, or punch this bitch in the face and not get my $600."
FYP
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You and JE with the strong ad hominem game today. Very impressive.
That's not ad hominem.
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I'm not defending him, but that was a single isolated incident. We're not talking a repeat offender in the mold of a Pacman Jones or Josh Gordon.
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It was also 4 years ago. So this isn't exactly a pattern of behavior by Ik, but clearly this is fucked up beyond all reason.
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Just stay healthy, fitz.
If you go down, then the real curtain comes down on the season.
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You keep talking about how embarrassing it is. I don't understand why you would be embarrassed about something over which you have zero influence or control.
Because it is embarrassing for the team?
I don't need to personally feel embarrassment to call the situation what it is.
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They're both idiots for how this went down. I've never had to bail on a plane ticket that I couldn't get a credit for, so I doubt IK was actually totally out the cash. At the same time, it's $600, which is nothing to Geno at this point. Why are you going to cause bad blood over $600? And how does it escalate that far? Stupid, stupid, stupid all around.
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I'm not happy about the way it ended, but hopefully Geno Smith will never start a game for the Jets again.
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This is basically a chappelles show skit at this point. "I can keep collecting my half a million dollar paycheck, or punch this bitch in the face and get my $600."
When keepin' it real goes wrong....
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https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/631173656845139968/video/1
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https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/631173656845139968/video/1
loooooooool
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They're both idiots for how this went down. I've never had to bail on a plane ticket that I couldn't get a credit for, so I doubt IK was actually totally out the cash. At the same time, it's $600, which is nothing to Geno at this point. Why are you going to cause bad blood over $600? And how does it escalate that far? Stupid, stupid, stupid all around.
According to rappaport, Ik wasn't even notified and he had a guy waiting at the airport to pick up Geno for 2 hours after the flight landed before Geno even answered his phone to say he couldn't come any more.
That's probably why he was totally out the money, never got notified until after the flight had happened.
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According to rappaport, Ik wasn't even notified and he had a guy waiting at the airport to pick up Geno for 2 hours after the flight landed before Geno even answered his phone to say he couldn't come any more.
That's probably why he was totally out the money, never got notified until after the flight had happened.
Both sides needed to handle this better. I doubt it was Smith's first priority to cancel his appearance at IK's camp after his friend died suddenly.
They should've sat down like men and discussed a plan for repayment.
Stop trying to blame Smith for this. Both players were wrong.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/631173656845139968/video/1
Yesssss
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https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/631173656845139968/video/1
Hahaha that's awesome
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Both sides needed to handle this better. I doubt it was Smith's first priority to cancel his appearance at IK's camp after his friend died suddenly.
They should've sat down like men and discussed a plan for repayment.
Stop trying to blame Smith for this. Both players were wrong.
All I did was say that's what Rappaport reported and it's probably why Ik couldn't get his money back.
But you literally made my point from earlier, Geno should have given the guy making way less money than him the money back since he bought him a ticket and couldn't make the trip for a real reason.
Both guys fucked up, both guys are gonna pay dearly for a stupid issue. Ik with his career, and Geno with his last chance to be a legit starter in this league. Over $600. Just unreal.
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When keepin' it real goes wrong....
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LOL, that's perfect.
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I've punched dudes over less.
Plus freak geno
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I've punched dudes over less.
Plus freak geno
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IK should have planted mint on Geno's lawn.
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IK should have planted mint on Geno's lawn.
Winner
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Success.
Fun fact, they've replaced their lawn again this summer because the mint wouldn't go away.
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Chris Lopresti
@CLoprestiWFAN
Still amazing to me: if Rex doesn't put Sanchez in against the Giants, good chance none of this happens. #NYJ
I love the media
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"Obviously, there is only one person to blame for this whole incident. Chan."
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Some NBC lady: QB Tyler Thigpen will work out with The NY Jets this Friday per league source. #Jets
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Chris Lopresti
@CLoprestiWFAN
Still amazing to me: if Rex doesn't put Sanchez in against the Giants, good chance none of this happens. #NYJ
I love the media
Might as well blame the guy who got in a motorcycle accident for that matter.
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Chris Lopresti
@CLoprestiWFAN
Still amazing to me: if Rex doesn't put Sanchez in against the Giants, good chance none of this happens. #NYJ
I love the media
Wow people get paid to write that excrement.
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QB Tyler Thigpen will work out with The NY Jets this Friday per league source. #Jets
How long since Thigs threw an NFL pass?
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How long since Thigs threw an NFL pass?
Never a real one. Hopefully he still won't.
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Chris Lopresti
@CLoprestiWFAN
Still amazing to me: if Rex doesn't put Sanchez in against the Giants, good chance none of this happens. #NYJ
I love the media
What an idiot statement that is. If Sanchez doesn't have his pass batted down by Lamarr Woodley in the 2010 AFCCG we win that game which means that Tanny doesn't get sacked which means that Idzik never gets the job which means that Geno doesn't get drafted by the Jets which makes this all Lamarr Woodley's fault. Makes about as much sense.
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If we hadn't traded for Favre and cut Chad we might never have had Rex, Sanchez or Geno.
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And here we go....
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Still amazing to me: if Chris Lopresti's mom doesn't give up anal for Lent, good chance that tweet doesn't happen.
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Still amazing to me: if Chris Lopresti's mom doesn't give up anal for Lent, good chance that tweet doesn't happen.
Ha. We were one swallow away from being spared.
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This is all just so stupid.
Maybe it ends up being good for Geno. People who wanted him to have to earn something, well, now he might have to unless Fitz is awful. If Fitz plays well early, I don't think they'll just hand Geno the job. Geno will have to prove it in practice, or Fitz will have to fall apart. Maybe it will light a fire under him.
At least we have Fitz. If someone punched Geno in the face 2 years ago, it would have been Matt Simms time.
I haven't completely given up on Geno (which makes me a Geno supporter relative to most fans). But on top of his on-field issues, he's accumulating a bunch of little things. Something like this isn't a huge deal in itself, but when compounded by other things (missed meetings), they start to point an unflattering picture.
I'd like to be able to get a clearer evaluation on Geno this year, but that might not happen now, and he hasn't done anything to deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Chris Lopresti
@CLoprestiWFAN
Still amazing to me: if Rex doesn't put Sanchez in against the Giants, good chance none of this happens. #NYJ
I love the media
If we never drafted him, if Sanchez didn't get hurt, if we drafted another QB in 2014, if Vick tried to win the job, if Chan didn't make him the presumed starter in the spring...
If anything, this incident is just the universe balancing itself out.
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If we never drafted him, if Sanchez didn't get hurt, if we drafted another QB in 2014, if Vick tried to win the job, if Chan didn't make him the presumed starter in the spring...
If anything, this incident is just the universe balancing itself out.
The fact that Boomer has come out and said "no, I'm not surprised one of his teammates hit him" should tell you everything you need to know about genes standing in the locker room and how people actually saw him, as opposed to what they said to be supportive in the media.
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I can't imagine some TC scrub going up to Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, etc etc...and punching them in the face over a miniscule amount of money. A QB that commands respect of his lockeroom would never be in a situation such as this. I'm not condoning what IK did either....
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The fact that Boomer has come out and said "no, I'm not surprised one of his teammates hit him" should tell you everything you need to know about genes standing in the locker room and how people actually saw him, as opposed to what they said to be supportive in the media.
Considering Boomer and Carton spent a day hating on Geno because he did not go on their show, I would not really take anything he says seriously. Hell, I wouldn't take anything he has to say seriously anyway.
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Considering Boomer and Carton spent a day hating on Geno because he did not go on their show, I would not really take anything he says seriously. Hell, I wouldn't take anything he has to say seriously anyway.
Yeah, we could have drawn that conclusion without them feeding it to us.
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Still amazing to me: if Chris Lopresti's mom doesn't give up anal for Lent, good chance that tweet doesn't happen.
Lol I just texted him a screen shot of this post
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Yeah it is not much of a stretch saying Geno has no respect in the locker room.
Also those QBs mentioned as having too much cache to get punched in the face, don't strike me as guys that would welch on 600 bucks. That's total faggotry.
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By the way, anyone wondering why I hate the Giants, today is a perfect example. Between Facebook and texts I've heard from almost every Giant fan I know and a bunch I don't know.
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By the way, anyone wondering why I hate the Giants, today is a perfect example. Between Facebook and texts I've heard from almost every Giant fan I know and a bunch I don't know.
At least Geno has all his fingers
/argument ended
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By the way, anyone wondering why I hate the Giants, today is a perfect example. Between Facebook and texts I've heard from almost every Giant fan I know and a bunch I don't know.
Some smug freak tried calling into ESPN radio this afternoon and started with "I'm a Giants fans and you know whenever you hear about something like this, of course it's the Jets-" and the host cut him off and said "it wasn't too long ago your team's players were shooting themselves in the leg. Thanks for calling."
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I like when they start, "I am a Giant fan so I don't have a horse in this race"....bullshit
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Or when they think they're more knowledgeable just because the team they root for happens to be a bit more successful than the team you root for.
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Every Bears fan I know wants them to sign Ik.
This IS the worst way for this to happen, but I always thought Fitz was the best guy in the room anyway. I just HATE that the "lolololJets" crowd continues to be given fodder.
Honestly though I was in the car when Lopresti broke it on the FAN. When Evan cut away from a caller to go to him and asked "good news or bad news Lo?" only for LoPresti to reply "I have some bad news guys" I immediately panicked that Revis or Mo Wilk got hurt. Literally rejoiced after I found out it was Geno but before the details. Not that I wanted the kid to get hurt but let's be real here, from a wins and losses POV this is NOT worst case scenario.
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None of the loljets crap matters if they win games.
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Yeah I just laugh it off. I don't particularly care if the Jets are a laughing stock or not. I just hope they win.
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Every Bears fan I know wants them to sign Ik.
This IS the worst way for this to happen, but I always thought Fitz was the best guy in the room anyway. I just HATE that the "lolololJets" crowd continues to be given fodder.
Honestly though I was in the car when Lopresti broke it on the FAN. When Evan cut away from a caller to go to him and asked "good news or bad news Lo?" only for LoPresti to reply "I have some bad news guys" I immediately panicked that Revis or Mo Wilk got hurt. Literally rejoiced after I found out it was Geno but before the details. Not that I wanted the kid to get hurt but let's be real here, from a wins and losses POV this is NOT worst case scenario.
This is a pretty bad scenario
Id say its similar to what happened when Sanchez got hurt and Geno got thrown in.
We had a young QB who albeit shitty was in a position to take a step forward
And a retarded injury made us look freaking stupid, and meant that whatever happens at QB wont be good.
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All dancing on graves and self-hating Jets fandom aside:
Pros:
-The best QB on the roster is now the starter.
-Geno did not suffer a head, back or limb injury.
Cons:
-Geno will not be available to back up Fitzpatrick in the meantime. No QB depth.
-IK, who'd probably be a serviceable depth/ST player, is gone.
-Fitzpatrick hasn't been getting as many 1st team reps as a starter should get.
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Id say its similar to what happened when Snachez got hurt and Geno got thrown in.
It's not.
Ryan Fitzpatrick has starting experience in the NFL and there's actual talent at the skill positions on this team.
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This is a pretty bad scenario
Id say its similar to what happened when Snachez got hurt and Geno got thrown in.
No. Fitzpatrick is an upgrade. The only way this would have been similar is if Fitzpatrick was originally named starter and then got hurt, leaving the job to Geno again.
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Geno did not suffer a head, back or limb injury.
where ya jaw at?
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It's not.
Ryan Fitzpatrick has starting experience in the NFL and there's actual talent at the skill positions on this team.
Hes also coming off a pretty big injury though, so its hard to tell how much hell be in "gameday" shape
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where ya jaw at?
I meant brain.
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Hes also coming off a pretty big injury though, so its hard to tell how much hell be in "gameday" shape
Geno Smith wasn't in game shape either. The guy has excrement for brains.
I'd rather have a super-conservative, less gifted game manager than a proven dumbass.
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I thought Geno had some potential but I'd rather a few weeks hiatus for something like this vs Wilk, Revis, or Brick/Mangold going down for the season
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Geno Smith wasn't in game shape either. The guy has excrement for brains.
I'd rather have a super-conservative, less gifted game manager than a proven dumbass.
By all accounts from everyone everywhere Geno was poised to take a step forward.
Whether it would be a huge one or a small one was to be seen.
Instead we still have Geno under contract for a 4th year
And he is still likely to get thrown into the fire at somepoint this season.
Theres no way that this isnt a very bad thing
Best case scenario wouldve been Geno practicing and starting.
Then us making a decision on him over the course of the season. As either someone with "potential" or sucks and move on.
Instead well be in limbo, and probably get stuck with him by default for a 4th year.
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I don't think he's coming back until after Week 10 if he comes back at all.
He's going to get his jaw wired shut, so he'll lose some weight. It's something that will have to heal completely. I think he'll be stashed on the Designated to Return IR.
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Instead well be in limbo, and probably get stuck with him by default for a 4th year.
This team is not stuck with that piece of excrement player, especially if he does nothing this year. The current regime didn't select that waste of a roster spot.
If he doesn't come back this year at all, they will move on. If he does, they will probably move on unless he absolutely lights it up...and that won't happen because he's a terrible football player.
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LOL @ Geno Smith being the best case scenario
take several seats
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This team is not stuck with that piece of excrement player, especially if he does nothing this year. The current regime didn't select that waste of a roster spot.
If he doesn't come back this year at all, they will move on. If he does, they will probably move on unless he absolutely lights it up...and that won't happen because he's a terrible football player.
Hes a QB with potential who is under contract for near guaranteed peanuts.
If he misses a significant chunk of the season, it virtually guarantees he will be a serious contender for the starting QB spot next year.
It doesnt mean Geno will keep us from drafting a guy, but it makes him very very likely to be in the mix
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By all accounts from everyone everywhere Geno was poised to take a step forward.
Whether it would be a huge one or a small one was to be seen.
Instead we still have Geno under contract for a 4th year
And he is still likely to get thrown into the fire at somepoint this season.
Theres no way that this isnt a very bad thing
Best case scenario wouldve been Geno practicing and starting.
Then us making a decision on him over the course of the season. As either someone with "potential" or sucks and move on.
Instead well be in limbo, and probably get stuck with him by default for a 4th year.
Geno being on the roster isn't a bad thing. Geno being the presumed starter at any point earlier than the moment he earns it would be a bad thing. Let him finish his rookie contract as a backup.
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It doesnt mean Geno will keep us from drafting a guy, but it makes him very very likely to be in the mix
If the Jets draft another QB, Geno Smith is done here. I'll keep my fingers crossed that either Bryce Petty gets a shot late and impresses or we take a QB high in 2016...because Geno Smith's sorry derriere needs to go.
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Geno being on the roster isn't a bad thing. Geno being the presumed starter at any point earlier than the moment he earns it would be a bad thing. Let him finish his rookie contract as a backup.
If we can get some clarity at the position, just cut him and move on. According to Todd Bowles, Smith had a lot to do with today's incident. Just separate yourself from it entirely.
It's not his fault that he was punched, but get that childish garbage out of the locker room.
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If the Jets draft another QB, Geno Smith is done here. I'll keep my fingers crossed that either Bryce Petty gets a shot late and impresses or we take a QB high in 2016...because Geno Smith's sorry derriere needs to go.
Is it that unrealistic for us to draft a QB have Geno start, with Petty and the new guy on backup duty?
I thought easing new QBs in seems to make a bit of sense.
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If we can get some clarity at the position, just cut him and move on. According to Todd Bowles, Smith had a lot to do with today's incident. Just separate yourself from it entirely.
It's not his fault that he was punched, but get that childish garbage out of the locker room.
I wouldn't argue with that. I was just pointing out why a 4th year under contract doesn't hurt us.
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Is it that unrealistic for us to draft a QB have Geno start, with Petty and the new guy on backup duty?
Why keep a terrible QB around to hold the fort? This team is too talented at other spots to waste another season on trash. If he improves fine, but it's looking more and more like he probably won't get that chance.
Sign a veteran, draft a potential franchise QB, or make a trade.
This is going to be a nice landing spot for a veteran if Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn't stick around.
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The idea that Geno was poised to take a step forward is mostly wishful thinking by Jet fans. Same thing we heard with Sanchez except Sanchez gave us reason to think so in his first two years and won big games.
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Why keep a terrible QB around to hold the fort? This team is too talented at other spots to waste another season on trash. If he improves fine, but it's looking more and more like he probably won't get that chance.
Sign a veteran, draft a potential franchise QB, or make a trade.
This is going to be a nice landing spot for a veteran if Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn't stick around.
He has "potential"
His contract is virtually guarenteed
Hes cheap
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He has "potential"
He already proved that he has the potential to suck at football. I'm done with him. I'm happy to see him go down this way, but good riddance.
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Cheap = deserves to start
FOH
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just think: nif joe hadn't won that super bowl, jets prob aint a franchise
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I keep hearing about how much Geno was supposed to improve etc. They said the same about Geno last season and about Sanchez every season.
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I keep hearing about how much Geno was supposed to improve etc. They said the same about Geno last season and about Sanchez every season.
About every young quarterback that disappoints
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Our best players (Nick Mangold and Darrelle Revis) seem to be upset with Smith over this.
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I keep hearing about how much Geno was supposed to improve etc. They said the same about Geno last season and about Sanchez every season.
If Geno made the same kind of improvement in his 3rd season as Sanchez did, Jets fans would want him dead.
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This is the third time in less than 15 years that the Jets have lost their presumed starting QB before week 1 (Chad v Giants, Sanchez v Giants and Geno v Ik). In addition to a handful of early season injuries (Chad and Vinny come to mind), is the QB for the Jets the most cursed position in the league (forgetting general suckitude at the position)?
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This is the third time in less than 15 years that the Jets have lost their presumed starting QB before week 1 (Chad v Giants, Sanchez v Giants and Geno v Ik). In addition to a handful of early season injuries (Chad and Vinny come to mind), is the QB for the Jets the most cursed position in the league (forgetting general suckitude at the position)?
It has to be. This team hasn't had a consistency at the position since the 70s.
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All dancing on graves and self-hating Jets fandom aside:
Pros:
-The best QB on the roster is now the starter.
According to what? Geno has had some awful, awful games, but he's also had a dogshit coaching staff with even worse talent around him and played pretty well on occasion. Finally, a real NFL coaching staff and a great WR was good a shot as he's going to get. Fitz would have won the job early if was the better player considering he's a guy with way more experience, history with the OC, and a staff with zero obligation to Geno.
No competition at QB has fucked this team over so often, and now it's happening again.
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a real NFL coaching staff
according to what?
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According to what?
According to all the tangible evidence we have to compare the two QBs.
If anyone wants to argue Geno is the better QB, it requires mostly speculation to think that way.
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Yeah, let's see a game first
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According to all the tangible evidence we have to compare the two QBs.
If anyone wants to argue Geno is the better QB, it requires mostly speculation to think that way.
The only way we could have known who the better option to start the year as our QB just went out the window, but some think it's good because it "guarantees" the better guy will start. No one thinks Geno is the better QB, but we certainly could have if he came out if TC with Bowles and Gailey saying that's the case.
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May 21
Despite Smith earning just 11 wins in two years and the presence of Ryan Fitzpatrick on the roster, the Jets will not have a quarterback competition come training camp this year. The surprising announcement came from offensive coordinator Chan Gailey, who revealed that the team long ago decided Smith would be its starter and said a training-camp competition “wasn’t a thought.”
“Right now Geno’s the starter,” Gailey said Wednesday after the team’s practice. “That’s the way it sits and that’s the way we expect it to be unless something happens, that you get an injury or something like that that you don’t foresee. That’s how we anticipate it going.”
So, there won’t be a competition?
“Not going in,” Gailey said. “Why not? Because Geno’s the starter.”
Gailey was asked if there was any way Smith could lose the starting job, outside of injury.
“Just like anybody else in the NFL,” Gailey said. “If you don’t play well over a period of time you could. Not in preseason. Not in practices.”
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"How come nobody was around to sucker punch Browning Nagle?"
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May 21
The only relevant thing from that post was May 21. Let's be realistic here, that was either only a Geno confidence boost or an evaluation of last year's tape that said Geno's better; of the two it's almost assuredly the former. They would have known who the man was by the time the season rolled around whether they said it at a press conference or not.
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Can we still send IK the team MVP award?
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I wonder what Cato's thoughts on all this would be? Haha
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I wonder what Cato's thoughts on all this would be? Haha
Look at the post above.
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No pun intended, Geno Smith is probably nothing more than a punchline from this point on. A sports trivia question. He is a joke until his comes back from this.
If he makes it back and deserves a chance, I'll probably support him a lot more this time around.
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They're both idiots for how this went down. I've never had to bail on a plane ticket that I couldn't get a credit for, so I doubt IK was actually totally out the cash. At the same time, it's $600, which is nothing to Geno at this point. Why are you going to cause bad blood over $600? And how does it escalate that far? Stupid, stupid, stupid all around.
It's pretty silly all around but I'm thinking if I bought someone a ticket to something and someone close to them died I would just let it go.
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It's pretty silly all around but I'm thinking if I bought someone a ticket to something and someone close to them died I would just let it go.
The punch definitely isn't justified but he could have picked up the phone to let IK know he wasn't going to make it. I know we don't have all the facts yet but it sounds like he didn't tell him he wasn't coming until after the flight had already left. Left him hanging.
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The only relevant thing from that post was May 21. Let's be realistic here, that was either only a Geno confidence boost or an evaluation of last year's tape that said Geno's better; of the two it's almost assuredly the former. They would have known who the man was by the time the season rolled around whether they said it at a press conference or not.
Like I said, any argument that's pro Geno seems to rely on our imaginations.
"He COULD be good this season, maybe."
"The coach didn't really mean there wouldn't be a competition."
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He was having a solid camp and Fitzgerald not so much, that's the only pro-Geno evaluation we could find. That might have meant a lot or nothing, we'll never know.
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It's pretty silly all around but I'm thinking if I bought someone a ticket to something and someone close to them died I would just let it go.
You're making a statement as if Geno handled his part with class. He didn't. The accounts I saw say, IK bought the ticket and had a driver service ready to pick Geno up at the airport. Geno never called nor gave Ik an inkling he wasn't coming or couldn't come to his event. The driver was left waiting at the airport several hours until Geno finally decided to let them know he wasn't coming. The guy is an entitled scumbag and I am sorry to say I am glad he got his jaw busted if that's the way he acted towards people, especially towards teammates. Too bad it didn't happen to Big Ben or any other entitled prick that feels they're bigger better and more important that anyone else and can't show even a modicum of common courtesy.
Whoever said, " I doubt Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers get sucker punched over $600 bucks". Sure because none of them would do something so freaking retarded, discourteous to a teammate, especially for an event that benefits kids. They will be dicks on the playing field but that's entirely different.
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You're making a statement as if Geno handled his part with class. He didn't. The accounts I saw say, IK bought the ticket and had a driver service ready to pick Geno up at the airport. Geno never called nor gave Ik an inkling he wasn't coming or couldn't come to his event. The driver was left waiting at the airport several hours until Geno finally decided to let them know he wasn't coming. The guy is an entitled scumbag and I am sorry to say I am glad he got his jaw busted if that's the way he acted towards people, especially towards teammates. Too bad it didn't happen to Big Ben or any other entitled prick that feels they're bigger better and more important that anyone else and can't show even a modicum of common courtesy.
Whoever said, " I doubt Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers get sucker punched over $600 bucks". Sure because none of them would do something so freaking retarded, discourteous to a teammate, especially for an event that benefits kids.
That's all true, I give people a lot of leeway to act weird when death is involved. If Geno knew for days he wasn't coming I agree he could have at least let him know. If the death and not showing up happened all within 24 hours I would give Geno or anyone else a pass for not giving a excrement about anything else.
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That's all true, I give people a lot of leeway to act weird when death is involved. If Geno knew for days he wasn't coming I agree he could have at least let him know. If the death and not showing up happened all within 24 hours I would give Geno or anyone else a pass for not giving a excrement about anything else.
Absolutely, any reasonable person I know certainly would, well I hope they would.
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Jesus, even a simple txt would be better than nothing.
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No pun intended, Geno Smith is probably nothing more than a punchline from this point on. A sports trivia question. He is a joke until his comes back from this.
If he makes it back and deserves a chance, I'll probably support him a lot more this time around.
I wish him all the best at Tennessee or Jacksonville or Saskatchewan or whatever pointless backwater he turns up in next.
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Jesus, even a simple txt would be better than nothing.
I think if someone died I'd still be able to pick up the phone and let work know I'm not coming in. This wasn't work but it was still a significant commitment.
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I think if someone died I'd still be able to pick up the phone and let work know I'm not coming in. This wasn't work but it was still a significant commitment.
Then again, the guy (supposedly) couldn't figure out time differential on the west coast. He doesn't seem too bright.
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Then again, the guy (supposedly) couldn't figure out time differential on the west coast. He doesn't seem too bright.
That's if that story wasn't freaking with us. He was out partying or something.
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That's if that story wasn't freaking with us. He was out partying or something.
Thus my use of the word supposedly. It's a excrement excuse either way.
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He was having a solid camp and Fitzgerald not so much
How do you know?
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Like I said, any argument that's pro Geno seems to rely on our imaginations.
"He COULD be good this season, maybe."
"The coach didn't really mean there wouldn't be a competition."
That's not baseless speculation; that's logical reasoning that a coach wouldn't hook his success up to a player he's never actually coached for a single snap.
But let's go with the face value side, if Gailey believed in his heart of hearts that Geno was the man, then it must be based on what he saw during he 2014 season. I know you hate speculation, but one would guess the key would have been the last quarter of the year when Geno was clearly improved.
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You're making a statement as if Geno handled his part with class. He didn't. The accounts I saw say, IK bought the ticket and had a driver service ready to pick Geno up at the airport. Geno never called nor gave Ik an inkling he wasn't coming or couldn't come to his event. The driver was left waiting at the airport several hours until Geno finally decided to let them know he wasn't coming. The guy is an entitled scumbag and I am sorry to say I am glad he got his jaw busted if that's the way he acted towards people, especially towards teammates. Too bad it didn't happen to Big Ben or any other entitled prick that feels they're bigger better and more important that anyone else and can't show even a modicum of common courtesy.
Whoever said, " I doubt Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers get sucker punched over $600 bucks". Sure because none of them would do something so freaking retarded, discourteous to a teammate, especially for an event that benefits kids. They will be dicks on the playing field but that's entirely different.
On a related note. I'm listening to Ryan Clark's take on ESPN Radio.
He's spoken to several Jets players and actually knows IK pretty well. Relevant points from his insight:
IK is a guy who's tight with his money. So $600 or any amount would be a big deal to him. However, the main reason he was upset with Geno is how unapologetic and smug Geno was in not paying him back.
The fact that Revis and Bowles have made comments placing blame on both players speaks volumes. Geno handled the situation poorly and unlike a leader.
Clark regarding Geno: "You have to give respect to gain respect". IK felt disrespected by Geno's smugness and attitude.
It was NOT a sucker punch. The 2 players were arguing, Geno saying something like "You're not gonna do anything about it" and putting finger in IK's face. Then he got ktfo.
Basically both players were at fault, and Geno does not act like a respectful leader in the locker room. Clark said he thinks it would be very hard for IK to play in NFL again.
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However, the main reason he was upset with Geno is how unapologetic and smug Geno was in not paying him back.
I can definitely see this being the case.
Smith has this unearned, unbearable arrogance about himself in a lot of interviews.
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Mike and Mike are trying to get a phone interview with IK right now.
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On a related note. I'm listening to Ryan Clark's take on ESPN Radio.
He's spoken to several Jets players and actually knows IK pretty well. Relevant points from his insight:
IK is a guy who's tight with his money. So $600 or any amount would be a big deal to him. However, the main reason he was upset with Geno is how unapologetic and smug Geno was in not paying him back.
The fact that Revis and Bowles have made comments placing blame on both players speaks volumes. Geno handled the situation poorly and unlike a leader.
Clark regarding Geno: "You have to give respect to gain respect". IK felt disrespected by Geno's smugness and attitude.
It was NOT a sucker punch. The 2 players were arguing, Geno saying something like "You're not gonna do anything about it" and putting finger in IK's face. Then he got ktfo.
Basically both players were at fault, and Geno does not act like a respectful leader in the locker room. Clark said he thinks it would be very hard for IK to play in NFL again.
If any of this is true, Geno can officially DIAF.
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That's not baseless speculation; that's logical reasoning that a coach wouldn't hook his success up to a player he's never actually coached for a single snap.
But let's go with the face value side, if Gailey believed in his heart of hearts that Geno was the man, then it must be based on what he saw during he 2014 season. I know you hate speculation, but one would guess the key would have been the last quarter of the year when Geno was clearly improved.
I think you're probably right and I think that's Gailey's reasoning.
I just don't think his late season surge was enough to make him the presumed starter.
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On a related note. I'm listening to Ryan Clark's take on ESPN Radio.
He's spoken to several Jets players and actually knows IK pretty well. Relevant points from his insight:
IK is a guy who's tight with his money. So $600 or any amount would be a big deal to him. However, the main reason he was upset with Geno is how unapologetic and smug Geno was in not paying him back.
The fact that Revis and Bowles have made comments placing blame on both players speaks volumes. Geno handled the situation poorly and unlike a leader.
Clark regarding Geno: "You have to give respect to gain respect". IK felt disrespected by Geno's smugness and attitude.
It was NOT a sucker punch. The 2 players were arguing, Geno saying something like "You're not gonna do anything about it" and putting finger in IK's face. Then he got ktfo.
Basically both players were at fault, and Geno does not act like a respectful leader in the locker room. Clark said he thinks it would be very hard for IK to play in NFL again.
Damien Woody and another player had pretty similar takes on it on the radio yesterday right after the story broke. They all seem to be drawing the conclusion that other players don't respect him.
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They all seem to be drawing the conclusion that other players don't respect him.
Since 2013, Smith has come off as a very entitled player. There's no reason for it. He isn't good.
If he was on the come up, a little arrogance would be understandable. But he's trash.
Revis politely took a dump on him yesterday. That's pretty telling.
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Since 2013, Smith has come off as a very entitled player. There's no reason for it. He isn't good.
If he was on the come up, a little arrogance would be understandable. But he's trash.
Revis politely took a dump on him yesterday. That's pretty telling.
His reaction at the draft when he dropped to the 2nd round was a good example of his "entitled attitude".
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His reaction at the draft when he dropped to the 2nd round was a good example of his "entitled attitude".
The only better drop to watch was Brady Quinn, as they stacked the chairs on the tables around him, with the hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm of the vacuum cleaner drowning out the crowd noise.
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Since 2013, Smith has come off as a very entitled player. There's no reason for it. He isn't good.
I dismissed all the pre-draft (and post-draft) character concerns around him since I already didn't like him as a prospect so I wasn't interested in weighing his character. But if you do care about that, there is a bit of a pattern.
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These ball players, starters or backups, all have massive egos. IK probably felt disrespected after seeing Geno attending events held by starters etc and then slighting him. By not explaining to IK and apologizing that he can't make it, he made IK look like a fool. I can pretty much see this happening. I don't think I would've sucker punched Geno, but I can definitely see why IK would be pissed at him.
Obviously I don't know all the facts, but I do know that I don't want the team led by someone who doesn't command the respect of all his players, starters and backups alike.
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jets-fans-should-be-happy-geno-smith-got-punched-in-the-face-2/
It's science.
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If Gorilla's post is true, which I'm inclined to believe it is, I go back to my original point from yesterday that most of these dudes in locker room had no issue with seeing Smith get dropped like a bad habit. If he commanded respect in the first place this situation would have been diffused way before it came to this. I'm sure more than a few of them were snickering their asses off when Geno got nailed.
If the story is accurate, I don't see how this guy can "lead" this team. Ever.
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These ball players, starters or backups, all have massive egos.
This is not true, especially a lot of the fringe roster, camp bodies that have to fight for roster spots.
It sounds like Smith thought he was above Enemkpali. If Ryan Clark's story is accurate, he was asking for it.
And it's not a sucker punch. They were supposedly face to face. It's not like IK walked up behind him and hit him. Unexpected maybe, but not a sucker punch.
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This is not true.
Just the black ones. /Tommy
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If Gorilla's post is true, which I'm inclined to believe it is, I go back to my original point from yesterday that most of these dudes in locker room had no issue with seeing Smith get dropped like a bad habit. If he commanded respect in the first place this situation would have been diffused way before it came to this. I'm sure more than a few of them were snickering their asses off when Geno got nailed.
If the story is accurate, I don't see how this guy can "lead" this team. Ever.
I am with you for most of your post. There's one thing about sports, it's possible to redeem yourself. I have less than zero expectations Geno can make that happen but former punks have somehow gotten their slate wiped clean and gone on to better things. So I am saying there's a chance.
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Let me throw in the fact, this story (one that points fingers at Smith as much a it does at IK) was leaked in its entirety to the media, just hours after it happened. All points to the fact he is not liked and that he may have played his last down as a Jet.
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On a related note. I'm listening to Ryan Clark's take on ESPN Radio.
He's spoken to several Jets players and actually knows IK pretty well. Relevant points from his insight:
IK is a guy who's tight with his money. So $600 or any amount would be a big deal to him. However, the main reason he was upset with Geno is how unapologetic and smug Geno was in not paying him back.
The fact that Revis and Bowles have made comments placing blame on both players speaks volumes. Geno handled the situation poorly and unlike a leader.
Clark regarding Geno: "You have to give respect to gain respect". IK felt disrespected by Geno's smugness and attitude.
It was NOT a sucker punch. The 2 players were arguing, Geno saying something like "You're not gonna do anything about it" and putting finger in IK's face. Then he got ktfo.
Basically both players were at fault, and Geno does not act like a respectful leader in the locker room. Clark said he thinks it would be very hard for IK to play in NFL again.
Thank you
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- the chances of Geno leading this team in the near future are slimmer
- Geno isn't tied to this regime
- the 2016 draft has some good QB talent
I don't see how the Jets invest in Geno's career any further after this.
If we end up drafting a stud QB in 2016, we should send $600 we raise from the 2016 tailgate to IK along with a thank you note.
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- the chances of Geno leading this team in the near future are slimmer
- Geno isn't tied to this regime
- the 2016 draft has some good QB talent
I don't see how the Jets invest in Geno's career any further after this.
If we end up drafting a stud QB in 2016, we should send $600 we raise from the 2016 tailgate to IK along with a thank you note.
Fantastic idea.
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
#Bringbackrexsoseafoodandbadgercansexhimup
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No one has straight up defended Smith. No one has been like "freak IK." Speaks freaking volumes, as far as I'm concerned.
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I don't see how the Jets invest in Geno's career any further after this.
May 15, 2016:
Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said it wouldn't be necessary to hold a QB competition after reviewing Geno's 2015 training camp tape. Barring injury, he will be the week 1 starter.
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Does anyone think that IK will play another down in the NFL again? Some of the experts were saying "no way," but I'm not too sure that he's totally out of the game. He'll have some 'splainin to do, but guys have done far worse and continued their NFL careers.
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Does anyone think that IK will play another down in the NFL again? Some of the experts were saying "no way," but I'm not too sure that he's totally out of the game. He'll have some 'splainin to do, but guys have done far worse and continued their NFL careers.
Morally speaking, rape, domestic violence, and drunk driving are much worse. Professionally speaking, punching your team's QB is worse.
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May 15, 2016:
How long is Chan's contract with the jets?
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Does anyone think that IK will play another down in the NFL again? Some of the experts were saying "no way," but I'm not too sure that he's totally out of the game. He'll have some 'splainin to do, but guys have done far worse and continued their NFL careers.
From the sound of it I wouldn't doubt there were secret cheers when he dropped Geno.
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
#Bringbackrexsoseafoodandbadgercansexhimup
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Does anyone think that IK will play another down in the NFL again? Some of the experts were saying "no way," but I'm not too sure that he's totally out of the game. He'll have some 'splainin to do, but guys have done far worse and continued their NFL careers.
We've never really seen anything like this before. I think he'd be a very polarizing player in a locker room after this.
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How long is Chan's contract with the jets?
I couldn't find it, but here are the top three trending players on Spotrac:
1 IK Enemkpali (DE, NYJ)
2 Geno Smith (QB, NYJ)
3 Ryan Fitzpatrick (QB, NYJ)
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No one has straight up defended Smith. No one has been like "freak IK." Speaks freaking volumes, as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, not good that everyone isn't pissed just from a loss of talent perspective.
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In slight defense of Geno, I don't think his handling of a money situation has much to do with being a "leader". It's more just being a dumbass. Now if he was being a smug poopchute about it and talking excrement (which is still rumor at this point), that's different.
I don't enjoy seeing the guy get his jaw broken, at the same time, I don't feel particularly distraught over the Jets chances this year compared to actually having Geno. I'm not going to be shocked if Fitz plays poorly either. I'm happy he is getting a chance and we are at least going to see something different than the past 2 years, for better or worse. We'll see. I'm pretty sure that most of the people here on the Fitz bandwagon are both happy that he's getting a shot and at the same time aware of the fact that he could suck too. This will be a fun thread to revisit next year.
Now watch Geno end up magically healing and coming back week 1.
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It's Aug 2015...and i'm already thinking about the 2016 draft and landing a franchise QB.
I'm definitely going to make a concerted effort to watch more college football this year.
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I just hope Bryce Petty gets a ton of playing time in the preseason.
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It's Aug 2015...and i'm already thinking about the 2016 draft and landing a franchise QB.
I'm definitely going to make a concerted effort to watch more college football this year.
How are we going to land a franchise QB picking #32 in the draft?
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How are we going to land a franchise QB picking #32 in the draft?
The 2015 TGG sunshiner award goes to
WW85 Bojanglesman
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In slight defense of Geno, I don't think his handling of a money situation has much to do with being a "leader". It's more just being a dumbass.
As the starting quarterback of an NFL team, his handling of every single situation on and off the field has everything to do with being a leader. Everything he does reflects on how he is perceived and treated by his team, especially when it directly relates to team members.
The whole thing speaks to a total lack of maturity or integrity and directly undermines any lingering vestiges there may be of thoughts that he could lead this team. I jokingly said to IJR yesterday that we might as well cut him now, but I honestly wouldn't mind if we did. He has zero value to this team, IMO.
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I just hope Bryce Petty gets a ton of playing time in the preseason.
I really don't see why he wouldn't. Fitz should get reps with the starters to build chemistry, but Petty should play a ton.
Sprinkle Heaps in a little at the end, maybe a little more if you actually think he has a future with the team. Hard to see it in Heaps after his college career, but then again we paid Matt Simms for years.
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If we end up drafting a stud QB in 2016, we should send $600 we raise from the 2016 tailgate to IK along with a thank you note.
Fitzpatrick should just pay the $600 with some of the money he stole from Buffalo.
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As the starting quarterback of an NFL team, his handling of every single situation on and off the field has everything to do with being a leader. Everything he does reflects on how he is perceived and treated by his team, especially when it directly relates to team members.
The whole thing speaks to a total lack of maturity or integrity and directly undermines any lingering vestiges there may be of thoughts that he could lead this team. I jokingly said to IJR yesterday that we might as well cut him now, but I honestly wouldn't mind if we did. He has zero value to this team, IMO.
This thing by itself isn't a huge deal. Shoot, look at Ben Roethlisberger. He was assaulting women in bathrooms. That shows much more of a lack of maturity or integrity than not paying someone $600 promptly.
Geno has value to the team if Geno can play. If Geno can't play, then it's a moot point, but clearly there are enough people who think Geno still has a chance to succeed.
The problem is that there are a lot of little issues that speak to a bigger picture (airline issue, missing meetings, cursing a fan, etc). All of those can be excused by themselves, but when you add them all together, they are no longer isolated incidents.
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This thing by itself isn't a huge deal. Shoot, look at Ben Roethlisberger. He was assaulting women in bathrooms. That shows much more of a lack of maturity or integrity than not paying someone $600 promptly.
Geno has value to the team if Geno can play. If Geno can't play, then it's a moot point, but clearly there are enough people who think Geno still has a chance to succeed.
The problem is that there are a lot of little issues that speak to a bigger picture (airline issue, missing meetings, cursing a fan, etc). All of those can be excused by themselves, but when you add them all together, they are no longer isolated incidents.
Agreed. Put it better than I did.
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I really don't see why he wouldn't. Fitz should get reps with the starters to build chemistry, but Petty should play a ton.
Sprinkle Heaps in a little at the end, maybe a little more if you actually think he has a future with the team. Hard to see it in Heaps after his college career, but then again we paid Matt Simms for years.
I still can't believe that Jake Heaps is on an NFL roster.
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I still can't believe that Jake Heaps is on an NFL roster.
I don't know anything about Jake Heaps.
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This thing by itself isn't a huge deal. Shoot, look at Ben Roethlisberger. He was assaulting women in bathrooms. That shows much more of a lack of maturity or integrity than not paying someone $600 promptly.
Geno has value to the team if Geno can play. If Geno can't play, then it's a moot point, but clearly there are enough people who think Geno still has a chance to succeed.
The problem is that there are a lot of little issues that speak to a bigger picture (airline issue, missing meetings, cursing a fan, etc). All of those can be excused by themselves, but when you add them all together, they are no longer isolated incidents.
The people who hate the Jets and want to make this a bigger deal than a locker room fight are now acting like Geno Smith is a great QB. The NY Post labeled him a "Star" on the FRONT cover this morning.
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I don't know anything about Jake Heaps.
3 Heaps
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I don't know anything about Jake Heaps.
Because he's terrible.
Heaps was a top recruit coming out of high school. He committed to BYU and sucked. Transferred to Kansas and sucked. Then ended up at Miami (FL) and sucked.
He is a Mormon.
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I'm not going to be shocked if Fitz plays poorly either. I'm happy he is getting a chance and we are at least going to see something different than the past 2 years, for better or worse. We'll see. I'm pretty sure that most of the people here on the Fitz bandwagon are both happy that he's getting a shot and at the same time aware of the fact that he could suck too.
I don't think there's been a post-Chad season in which we didn't feel this way about the QB.
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The people who hate the Jets and want to make this a bigger deal than a locker room fight are now acting like Geno Smith is a great QB. The NY Post labeled him a "Star" on the FRONT cover this morning.
I noticed this a long time ago, whenever an athlete is involved in something that makes big enough news that non-sports fans hear about it too, the media always labels them a star.
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I jokingly said to IJR yesterday that we might as well cut him now, but I honestly wouldn't mind if we did. He has zero value to this team, IMO.
He has value as a backup. We did go 8-8 with him in 2013 after all. I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the #1 QB but if a starter were to go down for a couple weeks I'd rather Geno start over the Jake Heaps of the world.
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I don't think there's been a post-Chad season in which we didn't feel this way about the QB.
We were pretty high on Sanchez the first 2-1/2 years. He was inconsistent but also thrown in there as a rookie with just 16 college games experience, so most of us thought he would grow into at least a solid starting QB if not a top tier guy. He still could, just not here.
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We were pretty high on Sanchez the first 2-1/2 years. He was inconsistent but also thrown in there as a rookie with just 16 college games experience, so most of us thought he would grow into at least a solid starting QB if not a top tier guy. He still could, just not here.
We were optimistic but as Bo put it, "at the same time aware of the fact that he could suck too."
Going into 2009 he was an unknown commodity at the pro level.
2010, he was coming off a 12:20 season.
2011, he had downgrades in talent all around him.
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We were optimistic but as Bo put it, "at the same time aware of the fact that he could suck too."
Going into 2009 he was an unknown commodity at the pro level.
2010, he was coming off a 12:20 season.
2011, he had downgrades in talent all around him.
All true, but he also played his best in the biggest games, made some huge plays in the biggest spots. You would think if he could do that a lot of the mistakes and dumb excrement (fumbles, INTs) could be fixed with game experience. And as you pointed out, the downgrade of his help in 2011 wasn't his doing.
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He has value as a backup. We did go 8-8 with him in 2013 after all. I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be the #1 QB but if a starter were to go down for a couple weeks I'd rather Geno start over the Jake Heaps of the world.
I'm not sure how much value he has as a backup versus a vet. Backup QB needs to be able to come in cold and manage a game, and be a good influence in the locker room. I've no faith in Geno to do either, I'd rather have a Fitz or a Thigpen.
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I'm not sure how much value he has as a backup versus a vet. Backup QB needs to be able to come in cold and manage a game, and be a good influence in the locker room. I've no faith in Geno to do either, I'd rather have a Fitz or a Thigpen.
The problem is it's August and the choices are sparse. I wish he knocked that douche out in February.
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
#Bringbackrexsoseafoodandbadgercansexhimup
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I'm not sure how much value he has as a backup versus a vet. Backup QB needs to be able to come in cold and manage a game, and be a good influence in the locker room. I've no faith in Geno to do either, I'd rather have a Fitz or a Thigpen.
Someone needs to backup Fitz right now and Thigpen hasn't made a positive contribution on the field since 2008. So once Geno is healthy I'd have no issue with him being #2. In the meantime we probably can't do much better than TT.
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Someone needs to backup Fitz right now and Thigpen hasn't made a positive contribution on the field since 2008. So once Geno is healthy I'd have no issue with him being #2. In the meantime we probably can't do much better than TT.
Matt Flynn? Plus you can expect one or two serviceable vets to not make final cuts.
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I'm 99% sure we won't, but I hope we don't give up anything for a trade for a placeholder QB. Street FA please. We don't need Steve Young as a backup.
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I'm 99% sure we won't, but I hope we don't give up anything for a trade for a placeholder QB. Street FA please. We don't need Steve Young as a backup.
I'd trade a 6th or a 7th conditional pick for a quality backup. It helped us in this situation.
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I'd trade a 6th or a 7th conditional pick for a quality backup. It helped us in this situation.
I wouldn't trade ANOTHER 6th or 7th conditional pick for a backup. First of all, no one of quality would likely be available. Second, Geno will be back at some point. If Fitz gets hurt in the next few weeks, fine, but that's the disaster scenario.
Also, Anthony Becht had a good take on the incident on his Twitter feed...
Let's get this straight Geno Smith had ZERO obligation to pay back Enemkpali the $600 because of a cancelled flight & limo dues for his camp
I've been running camps for 10 years.. NFL players are the worst schedule makers.. As a guy that's booked over 100 flight for players....
..some guys are gonna cancel, miss, or late for these events. It happens... It's happened to me atleast 10 times... Was I happy about it....
...absolutely not.. BUT I also know odds are its gonna happen. Especially high profile players. Get "REFUNDABLE" tixs.. You live & learn...
...confronting the player & pleading that he pays you back is wrong. If Geno doesn't want to pay him back, regardless if right or wrong....
...he doesn't have to.. Period. It was obviously escalated because Enemkpali kept bringing it up, which was the wrong way to go about it...
...punching the man for that is inexcusable. I don't care how much $ either guy makes. It's training camp. Approach & handle it after camp.
Result: #Geno Smith suffers...Enemkpali out of work.. #Jets team & organization suffers... And #Jets fans suffer.
Had players call me 24hrs before my camps &cancel..It happens. loss $ from there flights/hotels..But I'm not going to heckle or punch them
People always expect others to do the "morally right" thing..Stop with that. It's an imperfect world w/ imperfect people.. We all live in it
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In case anyone is wondering, the only part of this that is upsetting me is that it happened while I was on duty and had to stay on the ship overnight so I'm just now getting it.
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I wouldn't trade ANOTHER 6th or 7th conditional pick for a backup.
What are we going to get with those picks? A Deon Simon type player again? I'd rather use one on an insurance policy.
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Nobody wants to go to Anthony Becht's football camp. He needs to shut his sorry mouth.
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Nobody wants to go to Anthony Becht's football camp. He needs to shut his sorry mouth.
I was just thinking the same thing.
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
#Bringbackrexsobadgercangivehimmustacherides
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What are we going to get with those picks? A Deon Simon type player again? I'd rather use one on an insurance policy.
I just don't see a possible insurance policy that would be worth it. Why would a team trade a quarterback worth a damn on August 12th? I'd rather just sign a street free agent veteran.
It's not that we would draft a Deon Simon. We could also use it to trade for someone other than a shitty quarterback.
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I just don't see a possible insurance policy that would be worth it. Why would a team trade a quarterback worth a damn on August 12th?
We don't need to trade today. You wait until cuts are being made and go after a solid veteran that someone else might claim. It's a way to insure you get the player.
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We don't need to trade today. You wait until cuts are being made and go after a solid veteran that someone else might claim. It's a way to insure you get the player.
Agreed, but trading for a quarterback in late August probably won't help us that much if Fitz is still healthy
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Agreed, but trading for a quarterback in late August probably won't help us that much if Fitz is still healthy
Fitzpatrick might not stay healthy though. That's the whole reason I'd be okay with acquiring another QB.
He takes a lot of hits, he's older, and he's coming off of an injury.
Protecting Petty is important too. We can't throw him out there if he's not ready.
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Nobody wants to go to Anthony Becht's football camp. He needs to shut his sorry mouth.
As opposed to IK Enemkpali's penguin camp.
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A lot depends on Geno's expected recovery. If the docs say after surgery that he could be able to play before week 4 or so, I'd just get a street fa. Geno will be fine as a backup. If it will stretch into mid season, maybe we do need something a little better if available.
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Protecting Petty is important too. We can't throw him out there if he's not ready.
Where's your sense of adventure?
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Where's your sense of adventure?
It worked out perfect with Geno. waitesekond
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
#Bringbackrexsobadgercanlickhisassholeclean
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It worked out perfect with Geno. waitesekond
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
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But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Possibly competent > Clearly incompetent.
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LolAnthonyBecht
That's the dumbest opinion on this I've read to date.
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LolAnthonyBecht
That's the dumbest opinion on this I've read to date.
He basically saying, "come freak me over as much as you want and I will do nothing about it". It makes him sound like such a doormat.
But that was all Rex's fault and now he's gone, so what could go wrong? We have a top notch coaching staff now, I know because I read it on the Internet.
Rex was so great he should have been coach in perpetuity, I agree with you and Badger.
Bringbackrexsobadgercanlickhisassholeclean
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Guys...we're not going to book Anthony Becht for a future tailgate. He probably won't show up, and we shouldn't ask him for the $20 deposit back....because NFL players are bad schedulers.
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Willie McGinnest:
"It has nothing to do with who's soft or who's not. If you're a respected player in that locker room and other players respect you at a certain level -- Geno's not a superstar, he's not an elite quarterback, he's not even good at this point. [...] I would have called him (Enemkpali) upstairs to give him a contract extension. I want guys like that on my team to go to war with."
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Willie McGinnest:
Holy excrement lol.
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Nobody wants to go to Anthony Becht's football camp. He needs to shut his sorry mouth.
I'm pretty sure players prefer to go to Anthony Becht football camp than IK Enemkpali's. I think, as a not-so-important pro, he's in the right position to understand what was going on there. Even if I think his opinion is dumb.
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I'm pretty sure players prefer to go to Anthony Becht football camp than IK Enemkpali's.
Less chance of getting your lights punched out.
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Willie McGinnest:
Yeah, I saw that last night. I actually agreed with him... to an extent.
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Had players call me 24hrs before my camps &cancel..It happens.
Did anyone tell stone hands that isn't what happened?
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IK has a future as an enforcer for the local Mafia contingent, collecting on delinquent debts and such.
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IK has a future as an enforcer for the local Mafia contingent, collecting on delinquent debts and such.
The what? That's just in the movies, who told you that?
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IK has a future as an enforcer for the local Mafia contingent, collecting on delinquent debts and such.
Can't collect much if you are just killing them.
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He'll likely never get the money back now, so he failed.
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No surprise here:
NY Daily News Sports @NYDNSports 21s21 seconds ago
BREAKING: Bills claim former Jets LB IK Enemkpali, who punched Geno Smith in face: report http://nydn.us/1Plt8dr
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I may be in the minority, but I'm sure Becht knows way more about these camps than anyone here. Players don't care about these camps that much. Remember when Johnny Manziel was (allegedly) drunk at Manning Camp a few years ago?
Geno had a legit excuse to back out of the camp with a death close to him. If IK was giving him the silent treatment at camp because Geno backed out, then he's just completely immature (as proven by the punch).
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I may be in the minority, but I'm sure Becht knows way more about these camps than anyone here. Players don't care about these camps that much. Remember when Johnny Manziel was (allegedly) drunk at Manning Camp a few years ago?
Geno had a legit excuse to back out of the camp with a death close to him. If IK was giving him the silent treatment at camp because Geno backed out, then he's just completely immature (as proven by the punch).
That would be fantastic if that was the case but it wasn't. He had an excuse but chose not to use it, in fact Geno chose not to say freak all to IK and just not show.
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Could be, but to punch him because of that is extremely retarded.
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You don't have to approve of an action to benefit from it.
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This was actually really funny
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546114-imagining-what-the-geno-smith-ik-enemkpali-locker-might-have-looked-like
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No surprise here:
NY Daily News Sports @NYDNSports 21s21 seconds ago
BREAKING: Bills claim former Jets LB IK Enemkpali, who punched Geno Smith in face: report http://nydn.us/1Plt8dr
I was wondering what took them so long.
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There are more to be found.
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Why in the freak is Anthony Becht on my TV talking about this?
Shut up, you sorry piece of excrement.
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Geno Smith is opting for surgery, obviously. Not sure why he even got a second opinion.
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There are more to be found.
Those are pretty great.
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Geno Smith is opting for surgery, obviously. Not sure why he even got a second opinion.
Surgery is serious obviously and if you elect to have it, there's no such thing as solid food for quite sometime. I have no problem with getting a second opinion in this type of deal.
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Surgery is serious obviously and if you elect to have it, there's no such thing as solid food for quite sometime. I have no problem with getting a second opinion in this type of deal.
GF in college had the surgery because of TMJ. She was wired shut for months. Pro- she was always quiet, Con- no BJ's.
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GF in college had the surgery because she said F U Koz, and that was the end of that.
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GF in college had the surgery because of TMJ. She was wired shut for months. Pro- she was always quiet, Con- no BJ's.
She claimed it was TMJ, whereas in fact she just didn't want to have to keep making excuses for not putting your rotten rooster in her mouth.
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Surgery is serious obviously and if you elect to have it, there's no such thing as solid food for quite sometime. I have no problem with getting a second opinion in this type of deal.
If that's the case you'd expect him to lose a freak ton of muscle, and probably not contribute this season
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If that's the case you'd expect him to lose a freak ton of muscle, and probably not contribute this season
He will lose weight that's for sure.
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He will lose weight that's for sure.
Maybe if he gets down to Bridgewater weight he'll get Bridgewater skills.
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Well the circus is gonna get worse
Eyewitnesses told the Daily News that Geno Smith was "was up in (IK Enemkpali’s) face and pointed/touched his face" and "deserved it."
Sources told the New York Post that Enemkpali was furious at Smith for failing to reimburse the $600 that the linebacker shelled out for airline tickets and limos for Smith to attend a July 11 football camp for kids. Geno backed out a few days before the event due to the death of his brother's best friend. Regardless of the circumstances, breaking the starting quarterback's jaw in two places is never warranted. Although it seems some in the Jets' locker room don't see it that way. "That’ll get a man hit every time, especially one that hasn’t earned respect," a source said about the finger pointing.
(of course not surprising this is from a Manish article so yeah...)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/geno-smug-confrontation-ex-nfl-s-ryan-clark-article-1.2323438
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How's it gonna get worse? We already knew all of that.
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How's it gonna get worse? We already knew all of that.
We all knew that people in the lockeroom thought Geno "deserved" to get punched in the face?
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Cimini: Geno Smith had jaw surgery today. Will remain overnight in hospital. Plates and screws inserted. Jaw won't have to be wired shut, per Jets.
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Cimini: Geno Smith had jaw surgery today. Will remain overnight in hospital. Plates and screws inserted. Jaw won't have to be wired shut, per Jets.
Kinda disappointed about that last bit. he would have lost more weight making his recovery to the field time longer, meaning Fitzpatrick would have gotten at least a few more games to keep Geno on the bench
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Kinda disappointed about that last bit. he would have lost more weight making his recovery to the field time longer, meaning Fitzpatrick would have gotten at least a few more games to keep Geno on the bench
I just dont understand this line of thinking. This is essentially just like wishing injury upon someone... I understand we all have our own opinions on what type of QB he is a can be, but if Fitzpatrick was head and shoulders above Geno, he'd have the job, or would earn the job before the season were to start. Its not like we are sitting a top 10 QB on the bench just for the hell of it.
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Kinda disappointed about that last bit. he would have lost more weight making his recovery to the field time longer, meaning Fitzpatrick would have gotten at least a few more games to keep Geno on the bench
If Fitz needs Geno hurt to stay on the field I don't want Fitz on the field
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David J. Chao, MD
Good news for @nyjets fans. GENO SMITH plate/screws, jaw not wired shut. Anticipate less than 6-10 wks. Week 1likely. GENO SMITH @nyjets likely with tension bands to support jaw even though not wired shut. Can eat softer foods. Will beat 6-10 weeks return. Do not anticipate problems with cadence, snap count or changing plays at line of scrimmage for GENO SMITH @nyjets by week 1.
I still can't see him playing week 1 At least we'll have a solid backup sooner.
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So where is the good news?
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I wonder how skittish Geno is going to be on the field after getting KO'ed in the jaw. I think inherently he will play with a bit more caution, attempting to avoid injury. Hopefully this will happen with another team.
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If Fitz does well in the preseason, keep him in.
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At least we'll have a solid backup sooner.
Who?
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Who?
I'm fine with Geno as a backup QB.
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I still can't see him playing week 1 At least we'll have a solid backup sooner.
So basically, fitz has to be great in week 1 and possibly 2 if the Jets want to give Geno a chance in order to keep him on the bench.
If the Jets are done with Geno, Fitz needs to be not terrible in weeks 1 and possibly week2 to keep him on the bench
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So basically, fitz has to be great in week 1 and possibly 2 if the Jets want to give Geno a chance in order to keep him on the bench.
If the Jets are done with Geno, Fitz needs to be not terrible in weeks 1 and possibly week2 to keep him on the bench
I just think Fitz needs to be average. Aside from play, I'm willing to bet Geno lost some status with the coaches over this incident.
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Geno Smith feeling 'great' post sucker-punch surgery #nyj: http://t.co/c5baUe9Dzk via @nypost
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Geno Smith feeling 'great' post sucker-punch surgery #nyj: http://t.co/c5baUe9Dzk via @nypost
I hope the laddie comes back soon and this episode has knocked a bit of sense into him.
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Dick Cimini: Todd Bowles not happy that Geno Smith was working out on his own so soon after surgery. Says they "dealt with it internally." #nyj
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Dick Cimini: Todd Bowles not happy that Geno Smith was working out on his own so soon after surgery. Says they "dealt with it internally." #nyj
RIP
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Bowles says Geno's 6-10 week rehab timetable remains "about the same." http://t.co/jLOMZSjUEr
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Brian Costello @BrianCoz 24m24 minutes ago
Marshall: "Did he point his finger in his face? No he didn't." on Geno and IK. Marshall says he witnessed incident. #nyj
Cut Marshall neow.
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Cut Marshall neow.
Marshall didn't say which personality saw the incident. It could have been Bob, Tyrone, Justin, LaShaun, Sean, TheShawn or any number of them. You have to preface that dude.
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Of course Marshall is going to say that...he is Smunt's roommate
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Actually, that quote is shitty soundbite journalism of the worst kind. Here's the actual interview:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/geno-smith-wrong-jet-wr-brandon-marshall-article-1.2328195
And here's Marshall talking a whole lot of sense about the whole thing:
“People think it’s a distraction,” Marshall said. “It is. It sucks. It was shocking. I’m very disappointed. I feel bad for the kid, because he was doing really good. But we have to move forward if we want to win. Geno knows that.”
And more:
Why didn’t teammates defend Smith during and in the immediate aftermath of the altercation?
“Because he’s young,” Marshall said. “He’s 24. It hasn’t been his team. He’s been in and out of the lineup the last couple years. There’s been a lot of question marks. But I don’t care about the past. I care about what he’s done this offseason and OTAs and in camp and leading up to that day. To me, he’s been a leader. He’s getting better at it. It wasn’t his team. He had to earn that and he still has to continue to earn that.”
Brandon Marshall comes across extremely well and as someone who will be an awesomely good influence in the locker room.
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You gotta get those headlines. Marshall did defend Geno and say it wasn't his fault, but as JE just posted above, he was realistic about the whole thing.
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From PFT re: Marshall's comments on Geno:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/19/brandon-marshall-declines-to-elaborate-on-support-for-geno-smith/
....“I said what I had to say and, you know what, I’m excited to have another day to work,” Smith said in remarks televised by NFL Network. “But what I say, my word is bond, so . . . as far from my perspective. So if you guys want to ask me any more questions about Geno, it’s not football. I think we’re wasting our time here.”
Mehta then tried to ask another question about the situation.
“I’m ready for some football questions, man,” Marshall said, explaining he was injured for much of December 2014 and is now ready to talk football. “So if you don’t want to ask me any football questions. . . .”
“I’m just ready to play ball,” Marshall said as Mehta tried again. “I’m ready to play ball, buddy.”
Mehta kept going, and Marshall then smiled and talked about using skills he learned during a “three-month outpatient program” in high school, taking a deep breath (but not saying, “Serenity now!”).
It’s likely that Marshall was trying to avoid the topic at the behest of coach Todd Bowles, based on the comments from the head coach during Tuesday’s media availability.
“We’re done talking about it,” Bowles said. “The incident happened. We made statements when we made statements. That’s not going to define who we are or what we do going forward, so we’ve moved on.”
But Mehta isn’t done writing about it, and he emerged from his encounter with Marshall by penning a column characterizing the receiver’s support of Geno Smith as “weak” and noting that Smith still can’t get the “respect” he deserves from teammates. Mehta specifically points to the failure of Marshall to say anything about Smith after practice or the team’s preseason opener, waiting instead for a TV interview to broach the subject.
freaking Manish....
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Time to send Manish more death threats
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Hey manish an anonymous source told me you're gonna freaking die.
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From PFT re: Marshall's comments on Geno:
freaking Manish....
Links when quoting articles please.
The only thing that surprises me is that it's PFT writing this and not Cimini. Cimini loves putting the boot in on Manish.
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It's a Manish article, but it's not bad by his standards.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-jets-dumped-geno-smith-kirk-cousins-article-1.2332700
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It's a Manish article, but it's not bad by his standards.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-jets-dumped-geno-smith-kirk-cousins-article-1.2332700
I'm actually glad none of that happened.
Dominik, Quinn, and Shanahan has disaster written all over it.
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I wouldn't have objected to Quinn and Cousins, but I can happily live without Dominik. Shanahan I have no strong feelings about.
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Apparently the veteran players have imposed a "talk about Smith/Enemkpali incident and you run laps" rule.
https://youtu.be/YoUN8j1-drg?t=174
Seems like a smart move.
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Apparently the veteran players have imposed a "talk about Smith/Enemkpali incident and you run laps" rule.
https://youtu.be/YoUN8j1-drg?t=174
Seems like a smart move.
That's pretty awesome actually.
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Works for me.
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Im not sure if it was answered somewhere
But does anyone think a "redshirt" year for Geno could actually be good for him?
A chance for him to sit behind an experience vet who knows our offense (and is smart) learn from him and watch him for a year. Geno gets humbled,learns, and maybe comes back next season as a top 27 QB ?
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Im not sure if it was answered somewhere
But does anyone think a "redshirt" year for Geno could actually be good for him?
A chance for him to sit behind an experience vet who knows our offense (and is smart) learn from him and watch him for a year. Geno gets humbled,learns, and maybe comes back next season as a top 27 QB ?
If he sits all year, I don't think there's anyway he can come back to the Jets. He would be booed off the field after his first mistake.
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If he sits all year, I don't think there's anyway he can come back to the Jets. He would be booed off the field after his first mistake.
Well he is under contract, and I suppose its possible that we trade him (and depends on how QB availability looks after the year)
But I dont see why you couldnt just let him finish the year as a backup if Fitz is at least decent. Then have him come back and legit compete for a starting position next year.
The biggest question however would be what the freak would Geno need to do in his final year to get a new contract
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But I dont see why you couldnt just let him finish the year as a backup if Fitz is at least decent. Then have him come back and legit compete for a starting position next year.
If Fitzpatrick starts all 16 games, it means a few things:
1. He's played well enough to hold onto the job.
2. He hasn't played that great, but the staff doesn't want to give Geno Smith another chance.
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If Fitzpatrick starts all 16 games, it means a few things:
1. He's played well enough to hold onto the job.
2. He hasn't played that great, but the staff doesn't want to give Geno Smith another chance.
Both of which means Geno is done in NY. If the staff doesn't want him, he gets canned. If Fitz is just a better player, they need to draft his replacement who could sit behind him for a year before taking over unless they absolutely love Petty, which at this point remains to be seen.
Either way, Geno is not needed, and wouldn't be a welcome sight in the lockerroom. Not many teams can demote a starter to third string and still keep him around the locker room and the team without it causing some sort of a rift.
As far as I'm concerned (and some others here as well) the second Ik's fist connected with Genos jaw, Genos career with the NY Jets ended. It just won't be finalized until next offseason.
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Rapoport: When Geno Smith broke his jaw, #Jets didn’t know how long he was out. One team they called: The #Redskins about trading for Kirk Cousins.
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#Jets did their due diligence & made plenty of calls, including to the #Redskins, who wouldn’t talk about trading Cousins. Now we know why.
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I want Fitz for the year. Way better than Geno.
I forgot what an offense can look like with a decent QB back there
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Put Geno on IR-unable to return.
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#Jets did their due diligence & made plenty of calls, including to the #Redskins, who wouldn’t talk about trading Cousins. Now we know why.
Cousins is just as bad a Geno.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2568280-geno-smith-comments-on-ik-enemkpali-fight-ryan-fitzpatrick-and-more
Don't care. Shouldn't have been your job to start with. freak off.
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I hope the Xray determines he needs 14 more weeks of healing.
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If only an x-ray could say definitively "Hey guy, you lack the 'good at football' gene."
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I imagine Fitz is on the same leash Geno would've been had he been starting, right?
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If the Jets win the Super Bowl, Ik should get a share and ring.
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If the Jets win the Super Bowl, Ik should get a share and ring.
If the Jets win the Super Bowl IK should ride on Rex's shoulders at the front of the parade.
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I hope Geno is back soon so we have a decent backup QB situation.
C-c-c-combo breaker!
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I imagine Fitz is on the same leash Geno would've been had he been starting, right?
One guy can actually play the position.
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https://twitter.com/genosmith3/status/1293219688697143296?s=21
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Herman Cain died
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Why are there Geno Smith stans?
https://twitter.com/BoldBiasSports/status/1293239247328219136?s=19
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What part of that was supposed to be lies?
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Geno was raging on Twitter earlier.
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What a loser