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The Rest Of The Sports World => You Don't Know Football => Topic started by: MBGreen on October 19, 2018, 10:44:13 AM
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They fired their OC Mike McCoy
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Josh Rosen will get a few more OCs fired
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Byron Leftwich lol
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Josh Rosen in walking boot, pending MRI
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Patrick Peterson requested a trade by the deadline
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Patrick Peterson requested a trade by the deadline
Bowles knows him well
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Eagles and Patriots both after Peterson.
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Bowles knows him well
Makes no sense for the Jets unless we're giving them Trumaine Johnson
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Makes no sense for the Jets unless we're giving them Trumaine Johnson
It makes no sense for us to acquire elite players? Alright.
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It makes no sense for us to acquire elite players? Alright.
we should absolutely acquire elite players....but i don't think we're in any position to at this point in our rebuild. We already have no 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft.
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we should absolutely acquire elite players....but i don't think we're in any position to at this point in our rebuild. We already have no 2nd round pick in the upcoming draft.
Why is trading a pick for a player a problem if that player is better than anything we can reasonably hope to take with that pick in the first place? You're trading a degree of longevity for a guarantee of success.
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Why is trading a pick for a player a problem if that player is better than anything we can reasonably hope to take with that pick in the first place? You're trading a degree of longevity for a guarantee of success.
Age and cap hit are factors. Granted, we have a ton of cap space, so that doesn't apply to us in this instance. But having said that, we've already invested a significant amount in the position already (Trumaine).
The draft capital is where my concern lies...every week we talk about the holes on our roster. We can't fill them all in FA, we need draft picks. If we were a contender, i would love to bring in Peterson. But we're not, so it doesn't make sense for us right now.
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Age and cap hit are factors. Granted, we have a ton of cap space, so that doesn't apply to us in this instance. But having said that, we've already invested a significant amount in the position already (Trumaine).
The draft capital is where my concern lies...every week we talk about the holes on our roster. We can't fill them all in FA, we need draft picks. If we were a contender, i would love to bring in Peterson. But we're not, so it doesn't make sense for us right now.
I don't necessarily disagree on Peterson because of his age, but my point was that spending draft capital on a good player is fine in a rebuild IMO, because that's what you're supposed to do when you're rebuilding. I don't for example think that the Cooper trade was as terrible as many seem to, because he's young and has shown that he can do the job in the NFL. Are you going to get a better player with a mid first next year? Maybe, but it's far from a lock.
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I'm with DCM on this.
I don't want to waste any draft capital on a player that isn't directly helping Sam Darnold.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with kicking the tires and seeing what the Cards are looking for, but I agree with the sentiment of "let's not sacrifice draft capital if it's not going to help Sam Darnold win games."
I love defense. I have always stuck by the mantra that defenses win championships. But the Jets focus on defense to a fault for far too long. This team has a true franchise QB now. It's time to give him weapons to succeed.
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I don't necessarily disagree on Peterson because of his age, but my point was that spending draft capital on a good player is fine in a rebuild IMO, because that's what you're supposed to do when you're rebuilding. I don't for example think that the Cooper trade was as terrible as many seem to, because he's young and has shown that he can do the job in the NFL. Are you going to get a better player with a mid first next year? Maybe, but it's far from a lock.
Gonna quote our good friend Italian Seafood...the draft is a crapshoot. I'm not gonna debate Peterson's worth because i know he's an elite option. What i am gonna argue though is we need the draft capital to improve our offense (especially our interior oline). We spent picks to move up for Darnold, and i would do that 10 times out of 10 for him. But i'm not willing to part with more picks when we have more roster holes to fill. Our time isn't now.
The Saints are doing it, because they're contenders. We're not.
EDIT: the next couple of draft classes are going to be pivotal. We need to surround Darnold with more talent. The Rams and Chiefs are excellent examples of this.
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I don't necessarily disagree on Peterson because of his age, but my point was that spending draft capital on a good player is fine in a rebuild IMO, because that's what you're supposed to do when you're rebuilding. I don't for example think that the Cooper trade was as terrible as many seem to, because he's young and has shown that he can do the job in the NFL. Are you going to get a better player with a mid first next year? Maybe, but it's far from a lock.
You’re not going to factor Cooper’s salary and the fact that he’s a year away from free agency into the equation?
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Patrick Peterson is approaching the age of CB decline. I’m gonna pass based on the draft capital and contract. If we were one piece away from making a run I’d be all for it but we’re not.
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You’re not going to factor Cooper’s salary and the fact that he’s a year away from free agency into the equation?
Not really, because those are circumstances I can predict and manage. Would you rather spend a first round pick on the current Amari Cooper or the next Kevin White? Obviously you might get the next Michael Thomas rather than the next Kevin White, but can you blame teams for taking the known quantity rather than rolling the dice?
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...but can you blame teams for taking the known quantity rather than rolling the dice?
Taken from the Book of Seafood, 3:16
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Schefter is reporting that the Cards are open to trading Josh Rosen with the intention of drafting Kyler Murray 1st overall.
what
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Schefter is reporting that the Cards are open to trading Josh Rosen with the intention of drafting Kyler Murray 1st overall.
what
YES!!!!
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That can't be real, can it?
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That can't be real, can it?
It doesn't make sense, so yes
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Schefter said it's "not implausible" that Kingsbury, if he's in love with Murray, could advocate taking him #1 and dealing Rosen for a king's ransom.
That's not in the same ballpark as Arizona being "open" to trading Josh Rosen and taking Kyler. That's Schefter talking wacky hypotheticals to kill some airtime. He has no clue as to what Arizona is open to do on draft day. He's speculating on scenarios that aren't technically impossible. Like speculating on whether Rosen will be hit by a bus this week.
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Who would give a king's ransom for Josh Rosen?
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Who would give a king's ransom for Josh Rosen?
I'm not sure, Schefter was the one who said it.
But I assume any team that liked Rosen last year or at UCLA would deal at least a first-rounder for him. I wouldn't base his future potential or ignore his college career/combine/Pro Day, etc, on his rookie season behind an atrocious line with a one-and-done coach. Just like there's no way I'd trade Darnold for Mayfield based on their rookie seasons alone.
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I think it’s just irresponsible rumor mongering at this point, but Kyler in KK’s scheme >>>> Rosen
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Who would give a king's ransom for Josh Rosen?
The Giants fan base is all over this like flies on excrement
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The Giants fan base is all over this like flies on excrement
The ones I know don’t want him lol
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That would be bananas, here’s hoping that’s exactly what happens and we end up with Bosa on draft day
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The question would be if this has any shred of truth to it, you gotta figure the Giants may make a run at him, no?
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The question would be if this has any shred of truth to it, you gotta figure the Giants may make a run at him, no?
NY Post had an article about why they should tank for the kid from Clemson three years from now. So glad we're done with that part of our cycle of terrible-ness.
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Schefter didn't actually say he wanted to trade Rosen. It was an old video of kling saying he would draft thst guy with the 1st pic and schefter saying hmm
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cardinals trade josh rosen to the xfl for 3 first round picks in the 2020 xfl draft
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cardinals trade josh rosen to the xfl for 3 first round picks in the 2020 xfl draft
still might come out as a net positive given Rosen’s play this past year
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Imagine if we ended up hiring Kingsbury and he wanted to trade Darnold in favor of drafting Kyler Murray.
This is obviously far-fetched....but the mere mention of it would've started Armageddon.
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Imagine if we ended up hiring Kingsbury and he wanted to trade Darnold in favor of drafting Kyler Murray.
This is obviously far-fetched....but the mere mention of it would've started Armageddon.
The issue would have been with GM and ownership more than him as they almost certainly would have hired him knowing a plan like this (or giving him the power to do so)
I mean if it worked out in the end of course this worth it but on paper that would be an absurd move.
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Also, guys, imagine if Arizona hired Wonder Woman to be their head coach, right? And she, like, wanted to trade Rosen AND David Johnson for invisible jet fuel! That would be nuts too, right?
(sidenote edit: looks like Cards hiring Vance Joseph as DC)
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Also, guys, imagine if Arizona hired Wonder Woman to be their head coach, right? And she, like, wanted to trade Rosen AND David Johnson for invisible jet fuel! That would be nuts too, right?
(sidenote edit: looks like Cards hiring Vance Joseph as DC)
Wonder Woman is hawt. I would play for her.
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Last year the Cardinals paid Sam Bradford $16 million, paid Mike Glennon $5 million, and traded their first-, third- and fifth-round picks to move up for Josh Rosen.
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All sunk costs at this point.
If Kingsbury said this is the guy that will make my offense special, that’s all that matters. Gotta build it Kliffs way since you hired him
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All sunk costs at this point.
If Kingsbury said this is the guy that will make my offense special, that’s all that matters. Gotta build it Kliffs way since you hired him
Building a coach-specific roster for a rookie HC is an incredibly bad strategy.
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Building a coach-specific roster for a rookie HC is an incredibly bad strategy.
My mindset is if you hired him you have to commit to the strategy.
I personally don’t think it’s going to work, and I wouldn’t have hired Kingsbury. I
But if I did I’d have to go all in on his system.
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Rumor is there's trade talk between the Dolphins and Cards for Rosen. That would be fantastic...
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Rumor is there's trade talk between the Dolphins and Cards for Rosen. That would be fantastic...
Makes sense the Bengals and Dolphins need QBs the most. With Rosen in hand, it probably takes Miami out of the QB biz the next couple draft classes, which is huge for us as they are going to suck and have chances.
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Arizona’s eight-time Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson is being suspended the first eight games of the 2019 season for violating the NFL’s performance-enhancing drug policy, league sources told ESPN.
Schefter
Looks like an appeal will drop it to 6 games
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Cards waived Terrell Suggs.
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Cards waived Terrell Suggs.
I wonder if Baltimore resigns him so he can see another SB.
Or if Belichick signs him because drama, which Belichick absolutely loves
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I wonder if Baltimore resigns him so he can see another SB.
Or if Belichick signs him because drama, which Belichick absolutely loves
I don't know he would even go to NE if they offered.
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I don't know he would even go to NE if they offered.
He would.
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He would.
I'm not sure, he might be one of the few who wouldn't. He's made a excrement ton of money, he's got his ring and he's hated the Patriots and particularly Brady quite publicly for a long time. There was a running thing with the beat writers that he won't even say Brady's name and just calls him something like "the quarterback for New England". I'm fairly sure that he doesn't particularly want to go there and Brady probably wouldn't particularly want him.
Not to mention that they don't actually need the remmnants of what used to be Terrell Suggs. It might just be time for him to retire.
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Apparently Suggs has said he would consider not reporting to any team but Baltimore
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Cardinals signed Kelvin Beachum
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Cardinals signed Kelvin Beachum
RIP Kyler Murray
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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Arizona is making 24-year-old, two-time, Pro-Bowl selection Budda Baker the highest-paid safety in the NFL history, giving him a four-year, $59 million contract extension ($14.75M average per year), sources tell ESPN.
Asked about the deal, agent @DavidMulugheta
confirmed it.
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Jamal is going to kill himself
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Jamal is going to kill himself
"I'm ok with playing out my contract in Seattle"
lol
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That's a pretty healthy salary increase for a safety who's never had an interception at the NFL level.
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That's a pretty healthy salary increase for a safety who's never had an interception at the NFL level.
147 total tackles. Twice as many as Jamal Adams in 2019.
Baker also didn't throw any tantrums.
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147 total tackles. Twice as many as Jamal Adams in 2019.
Baker also didn't throw any tantrums.
Jamal is all tantrums and all luv
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Nuk got a 2 year / $54M extension with $42M guaranteed.
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oof
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Chandler Jones tore his bicep in our game is out for the season
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Imagine being taken out for the year because you had to play the Jets, who your team easily beat without you.
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Chandler Jones tore his bicep in our game is out for the season
Lasereyes.bmp
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Lasereyes.bmp
Sign Homelander!
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ProFootballTalk
@ProFootballTalk
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Zaven Collins arrested for reckless driving.
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https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1419353672471961606?s=19
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https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1419353672471961606?s=19
He’s the guy we should have taken over Coples a long time ago. But now that we wouldn’t be putting him in a standup role I’m not sure he’s a fit for us. Hope like hell he goes somewhere outside the AFCE if he’s dealt
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He’s the guy we should have taken over Coples a long time ago. But now that we wouldn’t be putting him in a standup role I’m not sure he’s a fit for us. Hope like hell he goes somewhere outside the AFCE if he’s dealt
Were not contending, he's a player who will be 32 by the end of the season and will likely demand significant trade compensation plus a monster contract.
I'd have no quarrels if a divisional rival traded for him. Presumably Miami would be the most likely if not only fit for a variety of reasons.
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https://twitter.com/Kyle_Odegard/status/1484282949860159490
Interesting.
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https://twitter.com/Kyle_Odegard/status/1484282949860159490
Interesting.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1484286537756033025
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1484286537756033025
https://twitter.com/kentsomers/status/1484296215059566594?s=20
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What’s Bidwell gonna do fire Kingsbury? If he does he might end up replacing him with a guy Murray doesn’t mesh with…
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What’s Bidwell gonna do fire Kingsbury? If he does he might end up replacing him with a guy Murray doesn’t mesh with…
Maybe Murray will actually study the playbook with a new coach.
I do think it's hard to fire Kliff after that season. Cardinals exceeded preseason expectations. Quarterback is developing well. That said, if you're convinced he's not the long-term answer, and I don't think he's a great overall coach, then moving on makes some sense.
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Kingsbury sucks
His teams always collapse
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Kingsbury sucks
His teams always collapse
SBTG
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Prolly nothing but..
https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1490774867121168391?t=v0cRIRCbtEPOX6oMkyglwA&s=19
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https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/1492914062732132352?s=20&t=Vbcrl91L_Pq88cO7gwrfew
I wish nothing but losing and misery for the rest of Kyler Murray's career.
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According to NFL Network's Mike Garafolo, Kyler Murray refused to go back into the team's playoff loss to the Rams in the fourth quarter.
"Case in point, the playoff game here, a minute left and the game had been decided, and backup Colt McCoy encouraged Murray to finish the game with his teammates. A banged-up Murray said no, that’s it, I’m done. so I know a lot of Cardinals folks were not happy with that one,” Garafolo reported. Despite the organization's statement that "nothing has changed" regarding their high regard for Murray, this is the kind of cold war you don't really want to have brewing with your franchise quarterback who is extension-eligible this offseason in the fourth year of his rookie deal. The clouds over the Arizona situation have been gathering for a bit, portending an interesting offseason at the very least. For what it's worth, Ian Rapoport also said Monday that "he is going to be the Arizona Cardinals quarterback for next year."
I have nothing against Kyler Murray, Kliff Kingsbury, or the Arizona Cardinals. In fact I think they're quite fun to watch when everything's clicking.
But watching franchises implode is more fun. So.
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I don't like Earthworm Jim or Kliff Kingsbury.
Kingsbury's teams have ALWAYS collapsed down the stretch. He is a great Air Raid playcaller, but not a great head coach.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1498291973895168002?t=WCkSOGT9it5jKzFDBIFRJQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1498291973895168002?t=WCkSOGT9it5jKzFDBIFRJQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1498316756703531013?s=20
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Cards extended Keim and Kingsbury. Not sure what that means for Murray.
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I don't like Kyler Murray and I don't know why.
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I don't like Kyler Murray and I don't know why.
Because he's undersized and irritating and it's impossible to shake the feeling that he's a gadget player who caught the league on the hop a bit but is now pretty easily dealt with?
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Cards extended Keim and Kingsbury. Not sure what that means for Murray.
Murray's deal could get done soon...he shares an agent with Kingsbury
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Kliff and Kyler deserve each other
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Murray's deal could get done soon...he shares an agent with Kingsbury
I hope they pay him. That has disaster written all over it.
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Cardinals have given WR Andy Isabella permission to seek a trade.
Denzel Mims for Andy Isabella
Make it happen, JD
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Denzel Mims for Andy Isabella
Make it happen, JD
I forgot Isabella existed
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I forgot Isabella existed
racist
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Denzel Mims for Andy Isabella
Make it happen, JD
Isabella and Berrios together has strong Patriots vibes about it.
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Isabella and Berrios together has strong Patriots vibes about it.
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Because of course there is.
https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1499070634827165703
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Adam Schefter
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Arizona Cardinals are releasing LB Jordan Hicks, per source. Hicks played at a high level last season, registering 118 tackles and four sacks, but the Cardinals have to let their young first-round ILBs play, and now are letting Hicks hit the market early.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/kyler-murray-not-expected-to-play-for-cardinals-without-new-contract (https://www.nfl.com/news/kyler-murray-not-expected-to-play-for-cardinals-without-new-contract)
No one really wants to live in Phoenix if they can help it.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/kyler-murray-not-expected-to-play-for-cardinals-without-new-contract (https://www.nfl.com/news/kyler-murray-not-expected-to-play-for-cardinals-without-new-contract)
No one really wants to live in Phoenix if they can help it.
Where can they send him that somehow benefits us?
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1521217993610514432?t=ioV7eGhFYSM6UhWvGuhSIw&s=19
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maybe that's why they traded for Hollywood Brown
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RIP Kyler Murray
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Wow. Hope that doesn't nuk their season.
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Wow. Hope that doesn't nuk their season.
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I've done it:
Marquise Brown = Blaxton Berrios
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1521217993610514432?t=ioV7eGhFYSM6UhWvGuhSIw&s=19
You'd wonder if this is why the Texans traded him so cheap
Maybe he finally got caught
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You'd wonder if this is why the Texans traded him so cheap
Maybe he finally got caught
He was hogging too much of the Texans' cap space
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You'd wonder if this is why the Texans traded him so cheap
Maybe he finally got caught
Or he got injured, and wanted to get back to 100% as fast as possible. (i.e. Julian Edelman)
It's pretty standard for athletes.
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Kyler Murray: the anti-Watson (https://brobible.com/sports/article/kyler-murray-hairdresss-wear-pants/)
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Kyler Murray: the anti-Watson (https://brobible.com/sports/article/kyler-murray-hairdresss-wear-pants/)
How is this something to get upset at?
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How is this something to get upset at?
Maybe she's mad because some man is telling her what she can and can't wear? freak I dunno.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1550155029352484865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550155029352484865%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftouchdownwire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F07%2F21%2Farizona-cardinals-and-kyler-murray-agree-to-a-massive-contract-extension%2F
Kyler Murray signs a 5 year $230 million dollar extension with $160 million guaranteed
2nd highest paid QB (and player?) of all time.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1550155029352484865
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/sports/football/kyler-murray.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/sports/football/kyler-murray.html)
“I think I was blessed with the cognitive skills to just go out there and just see it before it happens,” Murray said. “I’m not one of those guys that’s going to sit there and kill myself watching film. I don’t sit there for 24 hours and break down this team and that team and watch every game because, in my head, I see so much.”
Sometimes, when he needs a break, he turns his eyes elsewhere, either to video games or to his favorite movie: “The Great Gatsby.” It inspired the pink pinstriped suit he wore to the N.F.L. draft. The first time he saw the film, he said, he was hooked. The themes of hope and love and the American dream resonated for Murray. So did the title character, Jay Gatsby, a complex and inscrutable stranger.
“The fact that he could throw these huge parties, nobody’s ever met him, nobody knows who he is, nobody knows what he looks like,” Murray said.
“That, to me, was so, so cool.”
Kyler Murray: doesn't watch film, doesn't understand films.
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"If I took away one thing from The Great Gatsby, it's that I'll have a hugely successful second act in my American life as a baseball player."
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The freaking what now?
The first time he saw the film, he said, he was hooked. The themes of hope and love and the American dream resonated for Murray.
I haven't seen the film but I have read the book, and that was absolutely not my takeaway from it.
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He has all the subtlety of Baz Luhrmann so this tracks.
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Reminds me of Dante Hall
https://www.goupstate.com/story/news/2003/10/05/hall-loves-movie-scarface/29686189007/
MIAMI -- It's unclear if this qualifies as heart-warming, but Kansas City Chiefs return specialist Dante Hall, who has returned a kickoff or punt in three consecutive games and six of the past nine has an odd movie hero.
He draws inspiration from Al Pacino's Scarface.
"I just love Scarface," Hall said. "You can look at that movie and get so many things out of that. The thing I love about the movie is there's a guy that came from nothing, absolutely nothing, and climbed his way to the top from nothing. I kind of like to try to take that role."
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Yahoo Sports
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Kyler Murray's 'study hall' clause is so unorthodox that not a single executive or coach reached by Yahoo Sports could recall ever even hearing of that kind of language inserted into such a high-profile deal.
Contract stipulates Murray must watch four hours of film per week. Imagine needing to contractually obligate a quarter billion dollar quarterback to watch a football game.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34342237/arizona-cardinals-wr-marquise-brown-charged-criminal-speeding
Marquis Brown arrested for criminal speeding. No idea how far over the speed limit you have to be going to get arrested, but Brown managed it.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34342237/arizona-cardinals-wr-marquise-brown-charged-criminal-speeding
Marquis Brown arrested for criminal speeding. No idea how far over the speed limit you have to be going to get arrested, but Brown managed it.
Zombie Al Davis crawling out of the grave to trade for him.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jordan_reid/status/1571639281055039488?s=46&t=tbryhGhMxuK-ORBAtW7WxQ
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Ammmendola missing game-tying field goals after Kyler slides a half-yard short of a 1st down and spikes it.
Such a bad team
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Ammmendola missing game-tying field goals after Kyler slides a half-yard short of a 1st down and spikes it.
Such a bad team
This is why it’s so dangerous to pay a young QB who hasn’t proven himself in the work ethic department. If it explodes in their face it will be years before they can move on and get a replacement.
Huge part of the reason many wanted to move on from Sam rather than put ourselves in a similar situation
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/The_Muffs_%28band%29.jpg/579px-The_Muffs_%28band%29.jpg)
and head-in-her-hand-on-the-sand muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/North_Shore%2C_Oahu_beach.jpg/640px-North_Shore%2C_Oahu_beach.jpg)
there are Euro muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Road_sign_Muff_Co._Donegal.jpg)
and locally-made (ny) and russian-grade muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/TwoBigMuffsoriginal.jpg)
and then there's the Greg Dortch muff
https://twitter.com/Cardschatter/status/1586808777134596096
a fortnight of californicationintoxication done me good - what natural (and manufactured) beauty!
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~ ABOUT MUFFS ~
There are marching muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Muff_March_Harley_Street_2.jpg/640px-Muff_March_Harley_Street_2.jpg)
and munching muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Muff_March_Harley_Street_5.jpg/640px-Muff_March_Harley_Street_5.jpg)
there are poetic muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/On_a_Lady%27s_Muff.jpg)
and pathetic muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Elderly_couple_with_ear_muffs.jpg/320px-Elderly_couple_with_ear_muffs.jpg)
there's the band The Muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/The_Muffs_%28band%29.jpg/579px-The_Muffs_%28band%29.jpg)
and head-in-her-hand-on-the-sand muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/North_Shore%2C_Oahu_beach.jpg/640px-North_Shore%2C_Oahu_beach.jpg)
there are Euro muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Road_sign_Muff_Co._Donegal.jpg)
and locally-made (ny) and russian-grade muffs
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/TwoBigMuffsoriginal.jpg)
and then there's the Greg Dortch muff
https://twitter.com/Cardschatter/status/1586808777134596096
a fortnight of californicationintoxication done me good - what natural (and manufactured) beauty!
All this for a tweet about a muffed punt. Classic delavan.
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All this for a tweet about a muffed punt. Classic delavan.
Uppity haranguing over a facetious dido. Classic dildo.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35090073/cardinals-assistant-coach-sean-kugler-fired-groping-woman-sources-say?platform=amp
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https://twitter.com/pickswise/status/1597053753613463552?s=21
Looks like shits crumbling in AZ
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https://twitter.com/K1/status/1598111384797339649?s=20&t=M70he2v147-HRNwHoMVi1w
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https://twitter.com/K1/status/1598111384797339649?s=20&t=M70he2v147-HRNwHoMVi1w
Sent me down a rabbit hole to this image
https://twitter.com/LexxaMurray/status/1597022546687569920?s=19
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https://twitter.com/K1/status/1598111384797339649?s=20&t=M70he2v147-HRNwHoMVi1w
I mean the dude has a clear statistical dip in the weeks following COD releases, and his team required him to include X number of out of office film study because he feels he is too good to need to study tape. He then drags his HC in the middle of a presser. Can you imagine the insanity the NY media would have had with that nonsense if he was our QB?
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I mean the dude has a clear statistical dip in the weeks following COD releases, and his team required him to include X number of out of office film study because he feels he is too good to need to study tape. He then drags his HC in the middle of a presser. Can you imagine the insanity the NY media would have had with that nonsense if he was our QB?
Not to mention Arizona got less excrement for drafting Rosen and Murray back to back than we got for drafting Darnold and Wilson 3 years apart...
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Not to mention Arizona got less excrement for drafting Rosen and Murray back to back than we got for drafting Darnold and Wilson 3 years apart...
Not only did they get less excrement, they got praised for their brilliance in immediately recognizing their mistake and moving on
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Not to mention Arizona got less excrement for drafting Rosen and Murray back to back than we got for drafting Darnold and Wilson 3 years apart...
It's because they're a shitty little franchise that no one cares about.
It's only two days ago though that I said that Daniel Jones is the best QB from that class and Smalls called it an absurd thing to say, but would anyone really take Kyler Murray over him? Obviously the fact that that's even a discussion makes it an incredibly shitty class, but I am convinced that Jones is the least bad smelling of the turds.
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Not to mention Arizona got less excrement for drafting Rosen and Murray back to back than we got for drafting Darnold and Wilson 3 years apart...
Correct me if I'm wrong though, but couldn't the second QB Arizona drafted actually play football?
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Correct me if I'm wrong though, but couldn't the second QB Arizona drafted actually play football?
A. That's debatable right now and B. We got excrement for it before Wilson ever took a pro snap
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Correct me if I'm wrong though, but couldn't the second QB Arizona drafted actually play football?
Kyler Murray has set back the Cardinals more than Zach Wilson ever could.
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A. That's debatable right now and B. We got excrement for it before Wilson ever took a pro snap
Okay let's go with something that isn't debatable
Murray was a huge upgrade for Arizona
Wilson is the opposite.
Darnold was way better than Rosen, and sort of showed potential.
Murray was seen as the best player in the draft.
The Jets would've gotten little to no flack if we had the first overall pick and were rolling with Trevor Lawrence
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Kyler Murray has set back the Cardinals more than Zach Wilson ever could.
Are you underestimating Zach Wilson's destruction?
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Are you underestimating Zach Wilson's destruction?
We've been destroyed all the way to a 7-4 record....hopefully we can recover.
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It's because they're a shitty little franchise that no one cares about.
It's only two days ago though that I said that Daniel Jones is the best QB from that class and Smalls called it an absurd thing to say, but would anyone really take Kyler Murray over him? Obviously the fact that that's even a discussion makes it an incredibly shitty class, but I am convinced that Jones is the least bad smelling of the turds.
I thought you meant coming out of the draft, DJ was the better prospect. Either way, it's close.
The key is that none of them are that good. Most QBs suck.
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We've been destroyed all the way to a 7-4 record....hopefully we can recover.
Yes Zach Wilson is god because the Jets have managed to beat 2 teams with their starting QBs this season (both of which were injured)
Beating the Bills was incredibly impressive, But I'm going to go out and give credit to our defense and running game for that, not Zach Wilson's elite 154 passing yards
So to recap the Jets have not beaten a single team with a healthy starting QB this season.
That's not to suggest that this team isn't impressive or overachieving or anything or the sort. This season is bordering on magical. But there's been a lot of things that can easily mask the terribleness of Zach Wilson.
Kyler Murray is a problem as well, but it's much more that he's being paid like Mahomes and Josh Allen.
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Yes Zach Wilson is god because the Jets have managed to beat 2 teams with their starting QBs this season (both of which were injured)
Beating the Bills was incredibly impressive, But I'm going to go out and give credit to our defense and running game for that, not Zach Wilson's elite 154 passing yards
So to recap the Jets have not beaten a single team with a healthy starting QB this season.
That's not to suggest that this team isn't impressive or overachieving or anything or the sort. This season is bordering on magical. But there's been a lot of things that can easily mask the terribleness of Zach Wilson.
Kyler Murray is a problem as well, but it's much more that he's being paid like Mahomes and Josh Allen.
How can you say that Josh Allen wasn’t healthy? Bryce Huff hit him on the 2nd to last play of the game. He was perfectly healthy before that.
Trubisky was healthy, just terrible. Watson was suspended and everyone knew that going into the season that’s why they had Brisset. Who a week ago people in Jets land were arguing could be our 2023 starter if Jimmy G didn’t work out.
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/12/cardinals-qb-kyler-murray-suffers-torn-acl
Kyler Murray done for season, probably done for first half of 2023 too.
Kliff will land on his feet as a coordinator or in the NCAA again.
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/12/cardinals-qb-kyler-murray-suffers-torn-acl
Kyler Murray done for season, probably done for first half of 2023 too.
Kliff will land on his feet as the Jets' next coordinator or in the NCAA again.
EDIT: I'm not endorsing this, just mentioning the worst case scenario.
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Kliff belongs in college.
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https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/12/cardinals-qb-kyler-murray-suffers-torn-acl
Kyler Murray done for season, probably done for first half of 2023 too.
Kliff will land on his feet as a coordinator or in the NCAA again.
He'll probably be ready to go by Week 1 on next season.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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7m
Sources: #AZCardinals GM Steve Keim is taking an indefinite, health-related leave of absence from the team.
just fire him.
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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7m
Sources: #AZCardinals GM Steve Keim is taking an indefinite, health-related leave of absence from the team.
just fire him.
He's gonna be playing COD with Kyler
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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-coach-dan-quinn-rumor-sean-payton-kliff-kingsbury-thailand (https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-coach-dan-quinn-rumor-sean-payton-kliff-kingsbury-thailand)
Kliff Kingsbury up to his chin in cocaine and Thai ladyboys right now
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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-coach-dan-quinn-rumor-sean-payton-kliff-kingsbury-thailand (https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-coach-dan-quinn-rumor-sean-payton-kliff-kingsbury-thailand)
Kliff Kingsbury up to his chin in cocaine and Thai ladyboys right now
He's living the life.
His gf:
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/01/bielik-2.jpg)
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Poor guy ….
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/01/Screen-Shot-2023-01-14-at-2.32.42-PM.png)
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kliff Kingsbury
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Cardinals hired their GM
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1615096071621074944?t=hRALfH612ataAw7H8YFzeg&s=19
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Cardinals hired their GM
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1615096071621074944?t=hRALfH612ataAw7H8YFzeg&s=19
Kinda looks like Johnny Sins.
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Kinda looks like Johnny Sins.
Doctor, pizza guy, GM?
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1615397229916991488?t=3WfthbkuF64vU87yjN8UGw&s=19
Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort:
"Ego will not be tolerated in this organization."
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1615397229916991488?t=3WfthbkuF64vU87yjN8UGw&s=19
Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort:
"Ego will not be tolerated in this organization."
bye Kyler
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1647009399343312896?t=3z7Q2iHoaXn23ldrWLh6Iw&s=19
Budda Baker has asked for a trade.
We could use an upgrade at Free Safety.
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1647009399343312896?t=3z7Q2iHoaXn23ldrWLh6Iw&s=19
Budda Baker has asked for a trade.
We could use an upgrade at Free Safety.
Being on the losing end of the Jamal Adams trade?
No thanks
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Being on the losing end of the Jamal Adams trade?
No thanks
Joe Douglas isn't going to give up a ransom for him.
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Joe Douglas isn't going to give up a ransom for him.
At minimum the guys going to want to be the highest paid safety in the league
Plus Arizona isn't going to give the guy away for nothing. Especially considering he's under contract for 2 more years, before having the very affordable safety tag on the table
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At minimum the guys going to want to be the highest paid safety in the league
Plus Arizona isn't going to give the guy away for nothing. Especially considering he's under contract for 2 more years, before having the very affordable safety tag on the table
JD will always get his price or he moves on
And as far as the contract goes....who cares. People that are smarter than you are taking care of the cap.
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People that are smarter than us are taking care of all the moves.
People smarter than us decided Seattle should pay and give up those picks for Jamal Adams
Smart people do stupid freaking excrement all the time
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People that are smarter than us are taking care of all the moves.
People smarter than us decided Seattle should pay and give up those picks for Jamal Adams
Smart people do stupid freaking excrement all the time
No they don't.
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No they don't.
The same smart people you're talking about drafted Zach Wilson
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The same smart people you're talking about drafted Zach Wilson
(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/6db_3.jpg)
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drop dead tarantula head
https://twitter.com/CBSSports/status/1647623025263804417
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At minimum the guys going to want to be the highest paid safety in the league
Plus Arizona isn't going to give the guy away for nothing. Especially considering he's under contract for 2 more years, before having the very affordable safety tag on the table
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1647998370147966977?t=UWwXDEIXoYWF07oYvK1vCw&s=19
#givinghimaway
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These are as bad as ours.
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1649231866413699077
There's literally zero effort going into designing the current incarnation of jerseys, how long are we stuck with this excrement before we can get a company willing to produce something interesting?
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These are as bad as ours.
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1649231866413699077
There's literally zero effort going into designing the current incarnation of jerseys, how long are we stuck with this excrement before we can get a company willing to produce something interesting?
agree with you, it looks like they took a 'color rush' style approach to their new jerseys, and the white away jerseys are a blatant copy of the 49ers white color rush jerseys (which i actually think are one of the best jerseys in the league).
the lack of creativity for moves so paramount to the 'brand' of a team is kind of unacceptable from nike imo. our current helmet logo legitimately could have been planned conceptually by a toddler. 'let's write out jets and have a little jumbo football underneath the name!'
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I feel like I'm the only one who thought their previous jersey was completely fine. At least compared to everyone on /r/NFL.
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agree with you, it looks like they took a 'color rush' style approach to their new jerseys, and the white away jerseys are a blatant copy of the 49ers white color rush jerseys (which i actually think are one of the best jerseys in the league).
the lack of creativity for moves so paramount to the 'brand' of a team is kind of unacceptable from nike imo. our current helmet logo legitimately could have been planned conceptually by a toddler. 'let's write out jets and have a little jumbo football underneath the name!'
I would have to assume this is more of an issue with the 70+ year old owners having no style than Nike not knowing how to design
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I would have to assume this is more of an issue with the 70+ year old owners having no style than Nike not knowing how to design
I think it's a lot more to do with the current crop of creatives obsessed with "flat" design. Look at everyone's latest logos--any industry. They're becoming flatter in color and depth. Google got the ball rolling in UI when they moved Android to "Material Design" which is just another term for "flat and boring."
I don't attribute any of the blame here to the owners. I'd say this ball is entirely in Nike's creative court.
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Those duds are for the birds…
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Drew_cropped.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/joshweinfuss/status/1652456263220105216?s=20
pew pew pew
defensive Gase
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Ari Meirov
@MySportsUpdate
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2m
Just in: The #Cardinals are trading former starting OT Josh Jones to the Houston Texans, per @AdamSchefter
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Arizona has now dealt Isaiah Simmons (NYG) and Josh Jones (HOU), both of whom were in the final year of their contracts.
first Hopkins, then Simmons, now Jones. The tank is on in Arizona.
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first Hopkins, then Simmons, now Jones. The tank is on in Arizona.
Wasn’t Jones not going to start with Kelvin Beachum and the rookie?
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And now they've traded for Josh Dobbs from Cleveland. I don't know what Arizona are doing but it's not good.
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1694832163777032561?s=20
If this is accurate, the cards traded Simmons for a 7.
Traded Josh Jones and a 7th for a 5th
Traded a 5th for Josh Dobbs and a 7th.
So if math is correct, they traded Simmons and Jones for Josh Dobbs and a 7th round pick. I do not believe that is good business. But hey what do I know?
I do mildly enjoy everyone on Twitter speculating we are about to try and trade for Hollywood Brown for a 4th though. Given Salehs recent speech about competitors on HK do we really believe he is looking at a dude who calls himself “Hollywood” and saying “yeah that’s a guy who meets my competitor threshold and I want my team to trade assets to acquire?” My point is not that Brown isn’t a good player, but his motivations probably don’t align with what Saleh wants. Saleh wants guys who “love ball” not guys who “love what ball brings them” such as money, fame and notoriety.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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1m
Cardinals do not plan to activate QB Kyler Murray off the Physically Unable to Perform List by Tuesday’s 4 pm ET deadline, which means he then would ineligible to be active during the first four games of the season.
Tank McTankerson
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Tank McTankerson
Plenty of time for him to enjoy Mortal Kombat 1.
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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2m
Josh Dobbs figures to be the leader to become Arizona’s opening-day starting QB. The Cardinals tried to sign him in free agency. They traded for him last week. And he know the Cardinals’ system from having played under Arizona OC Drew Petzing last season in Cleveland.
lol
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Gannon isn't making it to next season
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Gannon isn't making it to next season
he'll replace Ulbrich in 2024...we love hiring rookie HCs that crash and burn their first season.
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he'll replace Ulbrich in 2024...we love hiring rookie HCs that crash and burn their first season.
I don't want Defensive Gase
Promote Marquad Manuel
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I don't want Defensive Gase
Promote Marquad Manuel
I don't want him either.
And if not for the Rodgers connection, i'd have no use for Hackett. #tuggalicious
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I don't want Defensive Gase
Promote Marquad Manuel
I'll take Oden. Our safeties have been pretty meh.
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And if not for the Rodgers connection, i'd have no use for Hackett. #tuggalicious
Hackett seems awesome so far. I get why Rodgers loves him. Seems like the rest of the players do too.
Can't wait to watch Denver suck derriere this season.
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I'll take Oden.
He can't take a punch
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Hackett seems awesome so far. I get why Rodgers loves him. Seems like the rest of the players do too.
I completely understand why Affable & Goofy don't work at the head of an organization, but are just fine in the middle.
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He can't take a punch
Lol
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2023/09/04/arizona-cardinals-coach-jonathan-gannon-slammed-for-cringe-comments/70761613007/
Coach Kendall Roy
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Someone sprayed gut fire on the floor of the bus and Gannon's gonna find out who.
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https://twitter.com/KingJosiah54/status/1699449520478949858?t=TSavF7SFNAlWsj9ou9e7dQ&s=19
It's nice when we don't have to be the butt of this joke.
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https://x.com/joshweinfuss/status/1719108276242301127?s=20
Interesting. Seems like they are trading someone but if you're moving Dobbs, why say this?
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Josh Dobbs is out with a case of coldgut.
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QB named Kyler and two weapons named Trey? They need to bring back coach Kliff.
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QB named Kyler and two weapons named Trey? They need to bring back coach Kliff.
Time to hire coach Tanner and his assistant Connor.