Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:11:48 PM
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Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2021, 09:12:22 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2021, 09:12:39 PM
I have an erection.
still want to bad mouth Joe Douglas?
Post by: klaximilian on April 29, 2021, 09:13:08 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2021, 09:13:20 PM
still want to bad mouth Joe Douglas?Joe Douglas is Gord God.
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:13:55 PM
still want to bad mouth Joe Douglas?HE'S ALIIIIVE
Post by: Laxin on April 29, 2021, 09:13:57 PM
Finally building that wall. Zach has to be thrilled. That left side should be in place for a while now.
Post by: steves850 on April 29, 2021, 09:14:03 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2021, 09:17:17 PM
still want to bad mouth Joe Douglas?
His ties suck.
Post by: MBGreen on April 29, 2021, 09:19:00 PM
His ties suck.
lol
Post by: reuben on April 29, 2021, 09:19:02 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 29, 2021, 09:19:53 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2021, 09:20:19 PM
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: Laxin on April 29, 2021, 09:22:26 PM
If Cam Clark is a potential starter, this OL is in a damn good place.
You'd love to see Clark beat out Lewis for that spot
Becton - AVT - McGovern - Clark/Lewis - Fant
world of a difference compared to what Sam walked into.
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:22:37 PM
GORD at 34?(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/554/866/4da.png)
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:24:15 PM
You'd love to see Clark beat out Lewis for that spotWhat a difference 2 offseasons makes
Becton - AVT - McGovern - Clark/Lewis - Fant
world of a difference compared to what Sam walked into.
Post by: Johnny English on April 29, 2021, 09:24:24 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2021, 09:25:33 PM
You'd love to see Clark beat out Lewis for that spot
Becton - AVT - McGovern - Clark/Lewis - Fant
world of a difference compared to what Sam walked into.
I think he’ll be fighting GVR. Pretty sure Lewis is only on the team forr mental health access.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2021, 09:26:12 PM
https://twitter.com/JCaporoso/status/1387953569865691139
And they were both in the same draft.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 29, 2021, 09:26:24 PM
We've spent back-to-back 1st-round picks on OL. If they are as advertised, we shouldn't be bad on the offensive line for a while. We still need to upgrade the other guard spot, but if they want to have Lewis, GVR, Feeney and Clark for the other spot, that's fine if that's your only truly weak link. The problem is when we need multiple of those guys starting.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on April 29, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 29, 2021, 09:31:37 PM
I feel we'll be trading down in the second to get another third, or an early fourth
let's just draft etienne at 34 and call it a day
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:32:52 PM
https://twitter.com/JCaporoso/status/1387953569865691139I did some digging, he could have gone way further back with this stat... to 1989
We took G Dave Cadigan 8th overall in 1988, the year I was born
Joe D took as many 1st round OL in 2 years as the Jets did in the previous 31 drafts
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 09:37:01 PM
I did some digging, he could have gone way further back with this stat... to 1989I'm still processing this... just wow
We took G Dave Cadigan 8th overall in 1988, the year I was born
Joe D took as many 1st round OL in 2 years as the Jets did in the previous 31 drafts
Post by: GreenGoat on April 29, 2021, 09:37:28 PM
I did some digging, he could have gone way further back with this stat... to 1989
We took G Dave Cadigan 8th overall in 1988, the year I was born
Joe D took as many 1st round OL in 2 years as the Jets did in the previous 31 drafts
Why the QBs don't work in the NYJ? it's a mystery, probably we'll never know...
Post by: Johnny English on April 29, 2021, 09:39:13 PM
Why the QBs don't work in the NYJ? it's a mystery, probably we'll never know...
So then.... why change the QB?
Post by: GreenGoat on April 29, 2021, 09:40:01 PM
So then.... why change the QB?Because he was already damaged?
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 29, 2021, 09:42:27 PM
Because he was already damaged?
This.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2021, 09:48:57 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2021, 09:50:03 PM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1387960917401477124?s=21I need to know what he yelled.
Post by: reuben on April 29, 2021, 09:50:08 PM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1387960917401477124?s=21
My GM.
Post by: casman02 on April 29, 2021, 09:51:30 PM
I need to know what he yelled.
Watched for about 3 minutes trying to figure that out as well
Post by: bojanglesman on April 29, 2021, 09:52:13 PM
Watched for about 3 minutes trying to figure that out as wellPretty sure it was a 2 Live Crew lyric.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 29, 2021, 09:52:40 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 29, 2021, 09:54:57 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 29, 2021, 09:55:02 PM
Post by: Badger on April 29, 2021, 10:00:38 PM
I need to know what he yelled.OH YEAH maybe?
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 29, 2021, 10:03:48 PM
Post by: Laxin on April 29, 2021, 10:10:35 PM
@BigTicket73: LETS GOOOOOO @ALIJAHVT Rookie duties on you babyyyyyy LETS GO TO WORK!!!!
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 29, 2021, 10:14:25 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on April 30, 2021, 06:13:07 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 06:26:37 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 07:14:52 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 07:20:10 AM
The Gord is good!
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 07:36:18 AM
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 07:39:41 AM
Draft another one at 34 and lets get to work
I say trade back a few spots, pick up a 3rd, and then get to work.
this is the way.
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2021, 07:42:52 AM
I say trade back a few spots, pick up a 3rd, and then get to work.
this is the way.
Nope. I'm with H.
Make that line solid. Right now.
If Douglas wants to get back into the 3rd round this year he can trade something from next year to do it. But solidifying this OL right now gives Wilson exactly what he needs most. Let's do this right for once.
Post by: Libero_2 on April 30, 2021, 07:44:24 AM
Draft another one at 34 and lets get to work
Is Jenkins on your list here at 34? Or would you rather drop back to get back into round 3 and snag Kendrick Green later in round 2?
I'd say there is a pretty good argument that Green is a better scheme fit for us anyways
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 07:44:46 AM
Nope. I'm with H.
Make that line solid. Right now.
If Douglas wants to get back into the 3rd round this year he can trade something from next year to do it. But solidifying this OL right now gives Wilson exactly what he needs most. Let's do this right for once.
you can still solidify the oline with a trade back. There are plenty of oline options still on the board. Relax.
I'm not comfortable waiting til the 4th round after this next pick.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 07:47:56 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 08:02:19 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 30, 2021, 08:08:29 AM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 08:22:57 AM
Is AVT just a guard or is he a guard for now with potential to be a RT if Fant flails? I wonder if they have any consideration of him being a RT down the road?
He's only played guard at USC from what I've seen but my sampling is incredibly limited.
Versatility is good but I'd assume they just have him work at guard. Fant wasn't exactly dog excrement last season and if they need to find a replacement for him they can do it next season, assuming the injury plague doesn't happen from last season.
Post by: reuben on April 30, 2021, 08:29:35 AM
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 08:31:52 AM
He's only played guard at USC from what I've seen but my sampling is incredibly limited.
He started every game (6) at left tackle for USC in 2020
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 08:35:34 AM
He started every game (6) at left tackle for USC in 2020
As I said, very limited sample size. Wasn't really concentrating on college football last year.
Last I knew he opted out of USC when the Pac12 initially shut down for the season.
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 30, 2021, 08:51:47 AM
Post by: Badger on April 30, 2021, 08:53:57 AM
Is AVT materially better than the 2nd tier OL prospects we've been discussing for months (Jenkins, Green, Smith, etc...)Yes?
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 08:55:18 AM
Is AVT materially better than the 2nd tier OL prospects we've been discussing for months (Jenkins, Green, Smith, etc...)Hopefully.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 08:57:48 AM
Is AVT materially better than the 2nd tier OL prospects we've been discussing for months (Jenkins, Green, Smith, etc...)
Douglas had him as a top ten overall player
Post by: Badger on April 30, 2021, 09:03:54 AM
Douglas had him as a top ten overall playerThat explains the urgency to go get him.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2021, 09:08:56 AM
Is AVT materially better than the 2nd tier OL prospects we've been discussing for months (Jenkins, Green, Smith, etc...)
Yes.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2021, 09:10:01 AM
IN THIS HOUSE WE TRADE UP FOR THE BEST GORDS
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2021, 09:11:10 AM
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Tonight
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 30, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
Christopher Johnson relegated back to bitch boy"Can you hear them in the background? Everybody clapping?"
*Chris immediately claps a couple times*
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 09:18:02 AM
"Can you hear them in the background? Everybody clapping?"
*Chris immediately claps a couple times*
"Clap, bitch"
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 09:29:57 AM
"Clap, bitch"I can see Woody as Buck Nasty, which means Douglas should probably get back home to put some more water in his mom's dish.
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2021, 10:11:19 AM
you can still solidify the oline with a trade back. There are plenty of oline options still on the board. Relax.
I'm not comfortable waiting til the 4th round after this next pick.
I'm not going to cry if Douglas gets an offer too appealing to miss and trades down.
But I'd use the pick on OL. The ONLY thing that matters this year is protecting Wilson and getting him acclimated to the system and the pro game. We have a ton of picks next year to fill out the roster.
Post by: d sw0rdz on April 30, 2021, 10:44:37 AM
i don't know if we trade back at the top of the 2nd. i don't think we'd trade future picks to trade back in the high-mid rounds this year. maybe there's some credence to the rumors that future picks are felt to be much more valuable than this year's picks due to the changes/uncertainty the pandemic brought to the evaluation process, and maybe that's why JD wasn't hesitant to part with both of our 3rd rounders
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
we've all talked about how douglas should know what's what when it comes to evaluating OL. he traded up for his guy so he must have felt very strongly about AVT
i don't know if we trade back at the top of the 2nd. i don't think we'd trade future picks to trade back in the high-mid rounds this year. maybe there's some credence to the rumors that future picks are felt to be much more valuable than this year's picks due to the changes/uncertainty the pandemic brought to the evaluation process, and maybe that's why JD wasn't hesitant to part with both of our 3rd rounders
a trade back about 3-5 spots from 34 would be the sweet spot, imo. And i trust JD to get his price (which should be at least a 3rd if not more).
I'm more than happy to stay at 34...but man, if we can get our guy a few spots down while reacquiring a 3rd rounder....I'll go build the douglas statue in front of Met Life tomorrow morning.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 30, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
a trade back about 3-5 spots from 34 would be the sweet spot, imo. And i trust JD to get his price (which should be at least a 3rd if not more).I hope you're right. Connor Hughes said the same thing, but I can't see a team giving up a 3rd to move up 3-5 spots in the 2nd. More likely, we give up a 4 or 5 and get a 3 back.
I'm more than happy to stay at 34...but man, if we can get our guy a few spots down while reacquiring a 3rd rounder....I'll go build the douglas statue in front of Met Life tomorrow morning.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 11:00:37 AM
Or just take BPA
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 11:09:45 AM
I hope you're right. Connor Hughes said the same thing, but I can't see a team giving up a 3rd to move up 3-5 spots in the 2nd. More likely, we give up a 4 or 5 and get a 3 back.
I'm okay with that too....we have plenty of late round capital.
I'd be shocked if JD sat on his thumb thru the entire 3rd round.
Post by: Derek Smalls on April 30, 2021, 11:33:38 AM
I'm okay with that too....we have plenty of late round capital.Agreed. And I know there has been smoke about next year's picks meaning more, but maybe that means we can get more than just a 3rd for trading a 2022 2nd.
I'd be shocked if JD sat on his thumb thru the entire 3rd round.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 11:35:41 AM
Agreed. And I know there has been smoke about next year's picks meaning more, but maybe that means we can get more than just a 3rd for trading a 2022 2nd.
Yessir
Post by: Badger on April 30, 2021, 01:12:10 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 01:13:14 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 01:20:38 PM
^ elite avatar material
Agreed. Now someone please help me fix this.
Post by: Heismanberg on April 30, 2021, 01:23:27 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 01:24:50 PM
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 01:25:44 PM
Same excrement happened last time.
hang on, child.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 01:27:05 PM
hang on, child.
EDIT: NVM, JE did it.
Post by: Johnny English on April 30, 2021, 01:27:11 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
I did it, everyone settle down
Bellissimo, grazie.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 01:29:53 PM
Bellissimo, grazie.
Destabalizer
Post by: Johnny English on April 30, 2021, 01:33:23 PM
Destabalizer
It is a good avatar though.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 01:34:27 PM
It is a good avatar though.
Definitely
You beat me by mere seconds in resizing the pic.
EDIT: wasn't Alio going to fix the resizing issue?
Post by: Johnny English on April 30, 2021, 01:36:09 PM
Definitely
You beat me by mere seconds in resizing the pic.
EDIT: wasn't Alio going to fix the resizing issue?
I think he gave up. At least he got the avatars working, resizing in Paint or GIMP is a 30 second job.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 01:37:35 PM
I think he gave up. At least he got the avatars working, resizing in Paint or GIMP is a 30 second job.
he couldn't have given up....unless you trained him.
Post by: CatoTheElder on April 30, 2021, 01:40:38 PM
I think he gave up. At least he got the avatars working, resizing in Paint or GIMP is a 30 second job.
Noted for next time.
Post by: Johnny English on April 30, 2021, 01:44:55 PM
Noted for next time.
It's a 216H x 150W pixel limit. The module that's supposed to automatically resize bigger images to fit that window is broken and none of us can figure out how to fix it.
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
he couldn't have given up....unless you trained him.
I didn't "give up", per se. Unless that GD module decides to start working, there's not much I can do. I read through the PHP code and didn't see any problems, and I can't find this issue anywhere on the intarwebz, so it's unique to us. I still believe it's installed incorrectly, which is why I pushed to get it reinstalled.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 02:45:48 PM
I didn't "give up", per se. Unless that GD module decides to start working, there's not much I can do. I read through the PHP code and didn't see any problems, and I can't find this issue anywhere on the intarwebz, so it's unique to us. I still believe it's installed incorrectly, which is why I pushed to get it reinstalled.
I know, dude. I'm just freaking with JE (this is a hobby of mine).
FTR, we had it reinstalled multiple times....i think it's a bug. Hoping it gets fixed in a later version/patch.
Post by: insanity on April 30, 2021, 02:49:30 PM
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2021, 02:51:16 PM
I know, dude. I'm just freaking with JE (this is a hobby of mine).
FTR, we had it reinstalled multiple times....i think it's a bug. Hoping it gets fixed in a later version/patch.
Just doesn't make sense. If there were a bug in the module or the SMF code, other sites would have the same issue.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 02:53:24 PM
Just doesn't make sense. If there were a bug in the module or the SMF code, other sites would have the same issue.
Without me physically standing over the drone at Webline to watch him install the module, there's no way for me to confirm he's installing it correctly.
Post by: AlioTheFool on April 30, 2021, 04:10:06 PM
Without me physically standing over the drone at Webline to watch him install the module, there's no way for me to confirm he's installing it correctly.
Yeah, I know. I wish we had access to do it ourselves.
Post by: MBGreen on April 30, 2021, 04:10:49 PM
Yeah, I know. I wish we had access to do it ourselves.
Ditto.
the Linux command line is my jam.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on April 30, 2021, 09:33:25 PM
McShay: 15
Jeremiah: 13
PFF: 21
Gil Brandt: 9
Jordan Reid: 10
Dane Brugler: 13
Post by: Libero_2 on April 30, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on May 02, 2021, 07:24:46 AM
Wtf....
*USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST*
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 02, 2021, 10:03:13 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 10, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
Saw the original tweet a day or 2 ago, was praying AVT would see it
Post by: Badger on May 11, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on May 11, 2021, 10:21:07 PM
https://nypost.com/2021/05/11/clay-helton-compares-jets-alijah-vera-tucker-to-all-pro/
Quote
“He’s an unbelievable guy in the building. I’m talking about unbelievable,” Helton said. “That’s why he was a team captain. He’s the same dude every day. He’s consistent, blue collar, hard-working, great teammate. He’s a pro’s pro. He’s a guy you want in your building.”
Post by: bojanglesman on July 20, 2021, 07:08:40 PM
Post by: Libero_2 on July 20, 2021, 07:36:10 PM
It’s time to get these guys all signed and on the field at the start of camp
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 20, 2021, 07:42:27 PM
Post by: delavan on July 31, 2021, 11:23:58 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on July 31, 2021, 12:55:19 PM
Dude is going to be awesome to have. I know everyone is talking about Wilson and Moore potentially being studs to start, but my money on the rookie who impresses the most is AVT
Post by: CatoTheElder on July 31, 2021, 01:44:10 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
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Alijah Vera-Tucker has been an absolute monster lately — @PFF's 5th-ranked guard over the last two weeks.
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Alijah Vera-Tucker vs. Atlanta
39 protection snaps
0 pressures allowed
Back-to-back shutouts for the rookie #Jets
Post by: bojanglesman on October 11, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
Post by: MBGreen on October 11, 2021, 11:17:14 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 11, 2021, 12:52:43 PM
Always knew he’d figure it out. Just needed time, missing preseason was a big problem for him.
Glad he’s picked it up. We need him to be a stud
Post by: delavan on October 11, 2021, 06:59:30 PM
O line has been getting better as a whole and staying healthy.
Except our dickbag RG's a 3-month, pussywhipped newlywed - guy's getting waay too much hot, steamy hoo-ha and as a result has lost his legs:
https://www.theknot.com/us/trish-brennan-and-greg-van-roten-jul-2021
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 11, 2021, 07:33:04 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 01, 2021, 07:46:32 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 01, 2021, 03:37:30 PM
But if you hit on the player, nothing else mattera.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on November 02, 2021, 12:37:39 PM
1️⃣ Alijah Vera-Tucker: 76.0
2️⃣ Connor McGovern: 74.5
3️⃣ George Fant: 73.4
4️⃣ Michael Carter II: 73.1
5️⃣ John Franklin-Myers: 72.4
Post by: dcm1602 on November 02, 2021, 02:08:56 PM
https://twitter.com/vitorpaivam/status/1455016734746943490?s=21
I know the poster attempted to explain it in the comments but is it not weird we'd have the OL slide right with the play call to the left?
And then of course the center and RG are doubling a dude while you have 3 guys going against our LT and LG?
I'm not sure how many things went wrong here
Post by: Derek Smalls on November 15, 2021, 11:40:05 AM
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1460294025194262529
Post by: Johnny English on November 15, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
This rep. Lol.
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1460294025194262529
Love it. Quenton Nelson regularly makes highlight reels for finishing his blocks like that. Pure nastiness.
Post by: delavan on November 15, 2021, 05:37:08 PM
This rep. Lol.
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1460294025194262529
This rep, this ragdoll
Post by: Badger on November 19, 2021, 05:34:23 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on January 11, 2022, 09:18:58 PM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on September 14, 2022, 02:15:48 PM
PFF NY Jets
@PFF_Jets
·
14m
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 91.1 run blocking grade last week against Baltimore
Highest among ALL Offensive Lineman from Week 1👀
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 02:16:31 PM
PFF NY Jets
@PFF_Jets
·
14m
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 91.1 run blocking grade last week against Baltimore
Highest among ALL Offensive Lineman from Week 1👀
My heart stopped when I saw this thread getting bumped and I'm finally figuring out how superstitious I am because I don't want to actually say why.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2022, 02:26:26 PM
PFF NY Jets
@PFF_Jets
·
14m
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 91.1 run blocking grade last week against Baltimore
Highest among ALL Offensive Lineman from Week 1👀
Douglas didn't do enough!
Post by: reuben on September 14, 2022, 02:51:01 PM
My heart stopped when I saw this thread getting bumped and I'm finally figuring out how superstitious I am because I don't want to actually say why.
Same freaking thought here man.
Post by: Libero_2 on September 14, 2022, 03:30:03 PM
Hopefully it doesn’t continue that way just because the left side is utter trash
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 03:38:18 PM
I didn’t think it would be that big of a stretch that AVT would be our best OL this year. I thought he was Sunday by a wide margin.
Hopefully it doesn’t continue that way just because the left side is utter trash
Yea, I'm fine with him being the best OL so long as the other side closes the gap.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 14, 2022, 03:47:22 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2022, 04:14:05 PM
I didn’t think it would be that big of a stretch that AVT would be our best OL this year. I thought he was Sunday by a wide margin.
Hopefully it doesn’t continue that way just because the left side is utter trash
I don't see any way that Fant and Tomlinson don't get their excrement together. I imagine Sunday's failure was in part because they haven't had many reps together, with first Becton and then Brown being the starting LT through all of preseason.
Post by: Heismanberg on September 14, 2022, 04:18:52 PM
I don't see any way that Fant and Tomlinson don't get their excrement together. I imagine Sunday's failure was in part because they haven't had many reps together, with first Becton and then Brown being the starting LT through all of preseason.
We need a tight end on the left side and more snaps for Breece Hall as a pass protector to help them out
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 04:21:12 PM
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
Becton was never the starting LT in preseason.
Was he not practising there or am I misremembering?
Anyway, point stands. I'm not worried about Fant and Tomlinson being excrement because both have proven they're not, I'm sure they just need to figure out playing alongside each other.
Post by: Johnny English on September 14, 2022, 04:24:09 PM
We need a tight end on the left side and more snaps for Breece Hall as a pass protector to help them out
I did feel sorry for poor little MC1 having to try and block some of those big fuckers.
Post by: Andrew Ryan on September 14, 2022, 04:33:47 PM
Anyway, point stands. I'm not worried about Fant and Tomlinson being excrement because both have proven they're not, I'm sure they just need to figure out playing alongside each other.
The only concern I have about Fant is his surgically repaired knee and how much it might be affecting him.
Tomlinson was atrocious on Sunday, giving up 8 pressures, so hopefully that goes down as his worst game as a Jet.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 04:50:17 PM
The only concern I have about Fant is his surgically repaired knee and how much it might be affecting him.
Tomlinson was atrocious on Sunday, giving up 8 pressures, so hopefully that goes down as his worst game as a Jet.
I think the bigger problem for Fant was getting swapped back and forth and only having one or two days to prepare as the LT for the Ravens. As long as he stays on the same side I think he'll improve.
Post by: Derek Smalls on September 14, 2022, 04:55:50 PM
I think the bigger problem for Fant was getting swapped back and forth and only having one or two days to prepare as the LT for the Ravens. As long as he stays on the same side I think he'll improve.That's what I'm hoping for. He's been shuffled around constantly. He even expressed frustration.
But I don't think it should be a stretch for AVT to be our best OL. When you take a guard in the top 15, you expect that guy to be a beast. He showed a lot of promising signs of becoming that beast in Year 1. Year 2, hopefully he can be our best OL.
Post by: CatoTheElder on September 14, 2022, 05:47:34 PM
That's what I'm hoping for. He's been shuffled around constantly. He even expressed frustration.
But I don't think it should be a stretch for AVT to be our best OL. When you take a guard in the top 15, you expect that guy to be a beast. He showed a lot of promising signs of becoming that beast in Year 1. Year 2, hopefully he can be our best OL.
Yeah, as I said, I'm OK wifh our RG being our top OL this season, I just don't want the margin to be as wide as it was this past week.
Post by: Badger on October 02, 2022, 07:57:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/zackblatt/status/1576696470207713283?s=46&t=Vu8mSb6SxP61BJVu7xE-Cg
Post by: Heismanberg on October 02, 2022, 08:02:17 PM
Tomlinson/McGovern/Herbig got their asses kicked today in the run game
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 02, 2022, 08:16:29 PM
He did an awesome job
Tomlinson/McGovern/Herbig got their asses kicked today in the run game
McGovern has been what I thought he was. Tomlinson through 4 weeks has been disappointing.
AVT is a damned beast.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 02, 2022, 09:48:55 PM
McGovern has been what I thought he was. Tomlinson through 4 weeks has been disappointing.
AVT is a damned beast.
Was AVT at LT our best OL for 4 weeks in a row? I don’t even think it’s debatable
Post by: Laxin on October 02, 2022, 11:47:54 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on October 02, 2022, 11:50:29 PM
Do we keep AVT at LT permanently…? If he can be an elite LT, that seems more valuable than a guard.
Mitchell's injury didn't look good, so Remmers probably takes that spot.
AVT - Tomlinson - McGovern - Herbig - McDermott
Ogbuehi and Remmers provide veteran depth at both tackle spots and can hopefully start over McDermott
Post by: MBGreen on October 03, 2022, 07:11:03 AM
Mitchell's injury didn't look good, so Remmers probably takes that spot.
AVT - Tomlinson - McGovern - Herbig - McDermott
Ogbuehi and Remmers provide veteran depth at both tackle spots and can hopefully start over McDermott
Duane Brown is probably going to kick AVT back inside to Guard sooner rather than later.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 03, 2022, 08:56:56 AM
Duane Brown is probably going to kick AVT back inside to Guard sooner rather than later.
he shouldn't
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 03, 2022, 06:56:15 PM
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Tyler Conklin on Alijah Vera-Tucker said, smiling: "We talk about him behind his back a lot, about how he's a freak."
"It's impressive what he did (vs. PIT) but you also expect it" from him.
#Jets
Via @ZackBlatt
I don't care about the statistics with regards to picking him.
Post by: reuben on October 03, 2022, 08:44:44 PM
My next jersey
Post by: Libero_2 on October 04, 2022, 04:53:50 AM
Given his start at OG seemed on pace to be an All-Pro or near all-pro season in year 2. One could reasonably assume that his play could remain at that level for a long time as an OG. If a guy gets 3-4 all pros and plays for a decade at a high level, the guy is almost certainly in conversations for the Hall of Fame at careers end.
If AVT is showcasing HOF potential at Guard this early in his career, what level of Tackle does he need to be to be worth trading that type of career on the interior?
In my eyes he would need to be a top 10-12 tackle in the league to be willing to give up that type of interior play from AVT. Doesn’t mean he can’t be that good, I’d just be really surprised if he can. Which is why I suspect after this season ends and we get healthy and new OTs, AVT will be back to OG. But as Heis said, if AVT continues to be that good against other (better) edges this season he might actually stick at tackle. But I just don’t see how if he’s “just” average outside that we leave him there when his interior game has been next level incredible so far this year.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on October 04, 2022, 05:14:05 AM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 04, 2022, 07:57:30 PM
okorafor was still available at that slot as well
Post by: dcm1602 on October 05, 2022, 05:46:56 AM
Well, there's another more mundane scenario to consider. The 10th best LT salary per Spotrac is Orlando Brown at 16.6k, the 2nd best guard salary (Scherff) is 16k. He might be betting on himself to become one of the best LTs in the league and earn much more money.
M*
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 09, 2022, 04:38:27 PM
Post by: reuben on October 10, 2022, 01:33:40 AM
Post by: Libero_2 on October 10, 2022, 04:55:16 AM
https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1579242899094790149 (https://twitter.com/ConnorJRogers/status/1579242899094790149)
Assuming this man stays healthy, I see no way he isn’t headed for an All Pro selection this year. These last three weeks are absurd
Post by: Andrew Ryan on October 10, 2022, 07:42:40 AM
Post by: Andrew Ryan on October 10, 2022, 07:44:15 AM
we drafted nate shepherd when orlando brown jr was still available
okorafor was still available at that slot as well
Maccagnan can't hurt us anymore
Post by: Laxin on October 10, 2022, 10:04:02 AM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 10, 2022, 10:44:56 AM
If the line can stay healthy for the next few weeks it should continue to get better. I think AVT serves this team better at tackle long term. OL did pretty well keeping Zach upright, and coincidentally he had now turnovers.I don't know if we've seen enough AVT at tackle to know where he's better off. We were convinced he was better as a guard and moved him to OT out of emergency. He's still probably better at guard long-term.
This team will have decisions to make with AVT because Mitchell and Fant will be healthy at some point, and Herbig has played solidly enough. Lots of options.
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Post by: Libero_2 on October 12, 2022, 04:27:09 PM
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1580213433533927427?s=20&t=5ZplfRAPr18aKaB1jBLJCA
Did Wilkins just say he’s getting better? Understatement
Post by: Johnny English on October 12, 2022, 04:34:41 PM
Did Wilkins just say he’s getting better? Understatement
I took him to be talking about the team rather than AVT specifically.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 14, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
Very rare moment of a coach talking about a professional player as if he's an actual professional instead of a high school or college kid (the latter of which should probably be treated as straight up professionals at this point).
You love to see it.
Post by: MBGreen on October 24, 2022, 02:28:41 PM
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Post by: mj2sexay on October 24, 2022, 02:33:49 PM
My love of sports is paid back with nothing but perpetual, non-stop derriere rape.
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Post by: ScotlandJet on October 24, 2022, 02:53:08 PM
Nauseating
Breaks your freaking heart!
Today's news is going to keep everyone's feet on the ground.
We just have no right to be happy or optimistic
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 24, 2022, 03:00:37 PM
Post by: reuben on October 24, 2022, 03:04:18 PM
Post by: reuben on October 24, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Ugh.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 24, 2022, 03:30:34 PM
Nothing is real
Post by: Libero_2 on October 24, 2022, 03:50:04 PM
Jesus we are cursed
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 04:31:16 PM
Post by: loyaljetsfan on October 24, 2022, 04:38:35 PM
I think we need to reset expectations for this team going forward after losing our two best players on offense. The D will only get us so far.
What does a "successful" season now look like?
8-9?
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 04:39:59 PM
What does a "successful" season now look like?
I thought we were going to win 6 games this year, so 8-9 would be pretty damn good especially given all the injuries.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 04:40:17 PM
I hate all of this. This team can't have nice things.We are 5-2. 3-7 down the stretch would be a disappointment.
I think we need to reset expectations for this team going forward after losing our two best players on offense. The D will only get us so far.
What does a "successful" season now look like?
8-9?
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 04:41:03 PM
3-7 down the stretch would be a disappointment.
It's also pretty realistic. We have the toughest remaining schedule and we're starting a seventh string offensive tackle.
Post by: Johnny English on October 24, 2022, 04:45:52 PM
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 04:50:05 PM
It's also pretty realistic. We have the toughest remaining schedule and we're starting a seventh string offensive tackle.We have the toughest remaining schedule in the NFL? According to whom? That's ridiculous.
We have a top 10 defense right now, and that defense is healthy. If we only go 3-7 against a schedule that features Detroit, Chicago, Jacksonville, Seattle, New England 2x and Miami, then something went wrong. Every team has injuries.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
I'm still seeing wins at home to the Bears, Jags and Lions. Patriots x2, Vikings and Seahawks are all winnable. Bills x2 and Dolphins are probably too much of an ask.The only team left on our schedule that is significantly better than us is Buffalo. Even with our injuries. This board has been beaten down so much over the years where people set expectations far too low.
If we finish the season with a losing record, it likely means we don't have a quarterback.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 05:01:17 PM
We have the toughest remaining schedule in the NFL? According to whom? That's ridiculous.
DVOA
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 05:04:51 PM
DVOASurprising, but I assume it has a ton to do with playing the Bills twice. Most other schedule metrics I've seen us have a middle-of-the-pack remaining schedule. That's probably weighted very heavily.
But either way, the point stands, if we go 3-7 down the stretch, something went wrong.
Post by: Johnny English on October 24, 2022, 05:09:51 PM
Surprising, but I assume it has a ton to do with playing the Bills twice. Most other schedule metrics I've seen us have a middle-of-the-pack remaining schedule. That's probably weighted very heavily.
But either way, the point stands, if we go 3-7 down the stretch, something went wrong.
Something already did go wrong. Multiple things, in fact.
If we can bring in a serviceable back, if Ogbuehi can hold down the fort at RT until Mitchell returns, if Zach can sharpen up a bit, if MLF gets a bit smarter with the playcalling, if Elijah Moore gets his excrement together, if the defense continues to be in beast mode, and if we can avoid too many other serious injuries to key players, we can still win quite a few of the remaining games. It's far from impossible, but there are some fairly big asks in there.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 05:10:10 PM
something went wrong.
dude...did you not pay attention to anything that happened today?
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 05:16:04 PM
These are major injuries. But we can't beat the Bears, Lions and Jaguars at home? We can't split with the Patriots? We can't beat Geno? We can't compete with the Dolphins, a team we already beat? Come on.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 24, 2022, 05:18:53 PM
We lost a running back an on offensive lineman.
Our two best offensive players*
Post by: Johnny English on October 24, 2022, 05:22:37 PM
You guys realize we're 5-2, right? We lost a running back an on offensive lineman. The betting line against the Patriots barely moved after the injuries (from +1 to +2), and that probably has just as much to do with how bad Zach played as the injuries.
These are major injuries. But we can't beat the Bears, Lions and Jaguars at home? We can't split with the Patriots? We can't beat Geno? We can't compete with the Dolphins, a team we already beat? Come on.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that things that weren't quite working but were being glossed over by stellar performances elsewhere are now going to have to get figured out, and quickly.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 24, 2022, 05:26:29 PM
I wasn't disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that things that weren't quite working but were being glossed over by stellar performances elsewhere are now going to have to get figured out, and quickly.Yep. Just like every other team in the NFL that deals with injuries.
Our defense is good enough to keep us in most games. I don't know what the offense can do, but we're going to need Zach to grow up quickly.
Post by: Miamipuck on October 24, 2022, 05:42:52 PM
I don't think it will be bad as we think because of reason mentioned here, it's the NFL and every team has disastrous injuries, we happened to lose the Jets two best offensive players by far. That said, the NFL is a bunch of mediocre teams behind the top 3 or 5. It's not dire, but I really don't want to hang my hat on ZW I don't really think much of him at this point.
We can't have nice things.....
Post by: MBGreen on October 24, 2022, 06:21:55 PM
We have the toughest remaining schedule in the NFL? According to whom? That's ridiculous.
We have a top 10 defense right now, and that defense is healthy. If we only go 3-7 against a schedule that features Detroit, Chicago, Jacksonville, Seattle, New England 2x and Miami, then something went wrong. Every team has injuries.
Surprising, but I assume it has a ton to do with playing the Bills twice. Most other schedule metrics I've seen us have a middle-of-the-pack remaining schedule. That's probably weighted very heavily.
But either way, the point stands, if we go 3-7 down the stretch, something went wrong.
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Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 25, 2022, 08:23:36 AM
We can't beat Geno?
DS Awareness Rating: 0
Post by: SixFeetDeep on October 25, 2022, 08:24:33 AM
Our two best offensive players*
Pretty obvious imo
Post by: MBGreen on May 03, 2023, 11:30:23 AM
@antwanstaley
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4m
Jets OL Alijah Vera-Tucker said he should be ready and healthy by training camp. Vera-Tucker suffered a season-ending torn triceps last October.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 03, 2023, 12:03:56 PM
Hughes
Post by: d sw0rdz on May 03, 2023, 01:08:12 PM
give me at least one above average to potentially elite tackle that isn't a complete question mark due to age/performance or shoulder falling off, knees falling off, or blood plotting against him
Post by: Heismanberg on May 03, 2023, 01:13:59 PM
Alijah Vera-Tucker said that it's up to OL coach Keith Carter where he plays (OT or OG). Said they've discussed both. He's working at G in OTAs right now. #Jets
Hughes
I cannot wait for Rodgers to eviscerate Hughes this season
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 03, 2023, 01:44:41 PM
I cannot wait for Rodgers to eviscerate Hughes this season
Shove his derriere in a locker.
Post by: Derek Smalls on May 03, 2023, 03:24:08 PM
Post by: Badger on May 03, 2023, 03:36:40 PM
Anyone want to update the thread title so my heart doesn't skip a beat when I see this thread get bumped?Yeah.
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 04, 2023, 11:02:04 AM
Anyone want to update the thread title so my heart doesn't skip a beat when I see this thread get bumped?
I updated it to “2022 season” yesterday after I did the same thing
Post by: CatoTheElder on May 04, 2023, 12:51:48 PM
Post by: SixFeetDeep on May 04, 2023, 02:53:20 PM
"All-Terrain Vera-Tucket: Died Bathed in Moonlight, Strangled by His Own Bra."
“AVT Breed Tub”
Post by: Heismanberg on May 04, 2023, 02:54:42 PM
“AVT Breed Tub”
Tommy saw AVT at the airport and shook his hand so hard that he tore his pec
Post by: SixFeetDeep on September 12, 2023, 05:30:32 PM
Glad to see he’s back
Post by: Johnny English on October 06, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 06, 2023, 01:33:51 PM
https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1710309678763102375
Do not like
LOVE
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 07, 2023, 12:13:16 PM
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Post by: bojanglesman on October 08, 2023, 06:44:34 PM
I never like hearing calf. Better than Achilles, but calf could be Achilles.
I'm less worried about Achilles and more that it'll be nagging and last several weeks.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 08, 2023, 06:52:12 PM
I'm less worried about Achilles and more that it'll be nagging and last several weeks.
He did have a much easier time getting off the field and into the locker room than someone with an Achilles' tear who's listed weight is 85lbs lighter, so that's reassuring.
Post by: Heismanberg on October 08, 2023, 06:53:52 PM
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Post by: MBGreen on October 08, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
If he’s out, we need to trade Lawson/Hardman for some OL shitter
BAH GAWWD...that's La'el Collins' music!!
Post by: AlioTheFool on October 08, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
We can't have nice things.
Post by: reuben on October 08, 2023, 07:04:11 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 08, 2023, 07:04:47 PM
If he’s out, we need to trade Lawson/Hardman for some OL shitter
is teven jenkins finally going to become a NYJ?
he would at least allow us to continue to have some G/T versatility
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 08, 2023, 07:10:26 PM
I will not be issuing an apology.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 08, 2023, 07:11:32 PM
BAH GAWWD...that's La'el Collins' music!!Anytime you can get an OL who has been terrible for a few years and is coming off a torn ACL, you have to do it.
I'm not against bringing in Collins, but he's just another Billy Turner.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 08, 2023, 07:13:21 PM
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 08, 2023, 07:14:37 PM
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 08, 2023, 07:15:19 PM
He wasn't the worst player on the field
tony adams?
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 08, 2023, 07:17:57 PM
tony adams?
I meant while Mitchell was specifically on the field but yeah that's a good call.
What is OnlyFans not doing in practice where he can't take Tony Adams' spot?
Post by: Miamipuck on October 08, 2023, 10:01:12 PM
For instance they were 99.9 percent sure that's what happened to Rodgers, they were just hoping the MRI said otherwise.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 08, 2023, 10:10:18 PM
They know if his Achilles popped pretty much instantly. There's a test that is pretty much irrefutable.
For instance they were 99.9 percent sure that's what happened to Rodgers, they were just hoping the MRI said otherwise.
They showed that he was walking to the locker room with a limp. If they thought it was an Achilles, would they have done that?
Post by: reuben on October 08, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Post by: Johnny English on October 09, 2023, 12:35:01 AM
They showed that he was walking to the locker room with a limp. If they thought it was an Achilles, would they have done that?Yeah, if your achilles is completely gone you can limp, and you can't do any more damage. A partial tear they immediately immobilize you.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 09, 2023, 02:09:44 AM
If he’s out then he becomes another glass talent we’ve picked for the OLine. That trend is getting annoying.
Post by: Libero_2 on October 09, 2023, 05:32:04 AM
Rodgers had a complete tear and needed a cart while AVT is 83 lbs heavier and was able to walk. Absent of footage of the injury, all we have is speculation at this point.
If he’s out then he becomes another glass talent we’ve picked for the OLine. That trend is getting annoying.
This is what I was getting at. Rodgers was in a boot and carted ASAP. Why wouldn’t they have done the same process/procedure with AVT if they thought the injury was the same?
Regardless if AVT is seriously hurt, you are right. You pick up his option because he’s AVT. If it’s an achilles, when he returns you assume his athleticism is limited, and he can’t be part of the OT plans. So you go get a damn tackle and keep him at OG where he belongs. And next time we play in Colorado, you freaking don’t let him on the field.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 09, 2023, 06:19:06 AM
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Post by: guinness77 on October 09, 2023, 07:42:52 AM
I worry more about a tear in the calf muscle.A full tear would be he’s done for the season. A partial tear would be 4-6 weeks minimum. Hoping it’s neither of those and just a strain or something like that.
Post by: MBGreen on October 09, 2023, 09:19:10 AM
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Nick Faria
@Nick_Faria1720
If AVT's injury is a calf strain (this is not a report, mere speculation based on Ian Rappaport's report), then the RT could be out for 1-3 weeks.
With the #Jets bye week coming up, that could be best best-case scenario to have him miss just a single game. The team would be okay in the long term.
Still waiting on further confirmation though
Post by: Heismanberg on October 09, 2023, 09:21:59 AM
Best case scenario is probably 1-3 week injury. We've got our bye week after Philly too.
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Post by: steves850 on October 09, 2023, 02:45:17 PM
Back-to-back season ending injuries in Denver. Unreal
freak Denver as a city, a metro, and a motherfuckin' franchise. And if you want to be down with Denver, then freak you too.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 09, 2023, 02:56:20 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on October 09, 2023, 02:56:54 PM
Mitchell seemed decent yesterday though.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 09, 2023, 03:01:33 PM
If Mitchell struggles, we need to put Carter Warren out there ASAP.I would think it goes
Mitchell seemed decent yesterday though.
- Mitchell gets first crack
- Brown takes over at one spot when he's back if Mitchell struggles
- Warren is insurance if both fail (or if Becton fails)
- Turner is the emergency plan
Post by: reuben on October 09, 2023, 03:02:25 PM
If Mitchell struggles, we need to put Carter Warren out there ASAP.
Mitchell seemed decent yesterday though.
He did well in Denver and he's playing next to our best lineman. Philly will tell us all we need to know.
I want Jeremy Ruckert surgically sewn to his right hip.
Post by: reuben on October 09, 2023, 03:05:41 PM
I would think it goes
- Mitchell gets first crack
- Brown takes over at one spot when he's back if Mitchell struggles
- Warren is insurance if both fail (or if Becton fails)
- Turner is the emergency plan
I don't need to see anymore of Duane Brown. He's toast.
Dark horse candidate? Joe Tippmann, with Schweitzer taking his spot at guard. I'm not keen on the idea but he's got the size to make the transition.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 09, 2023, 03:13:40 PM
i can't imagine what's going on through his head right now. freak this. freak that freaking city. freak this excrement.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 09, 2023, 03:16:31 PM
I don't need to see anymore of Duane Brown. He's toast.Brown was serviceable when he was healthy last season. We'd take serviceable now. Hopefully Mitchell provides that and it's a moot point.
Dark horse candidate? Joe Tippmann, with Schweitzer taking his spot at guard. I'm not keen on the idea but he's got the size to make the transition.
The staff wanted him to play LT entering Week 1. Hard for me to think he's completely out of the picture now or that they would play Warren coming off multiple injuries over him right away.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 09, 2023, 03:20:46 PM
Brown was serviceable when he was healthy last season. We'd take serviceable now. Hopefully Mitchell provides that and it's a moot point.
The staff wanted him to play LT entering Week 1. Hard for me to think he's completely out of the picture now or that they would play Warren coming off multiple injuries over him right away.
that was the wrong decision by the staff, and it led to our QB tearing his achilles the first drive of the season. and he looked done when he was in there for us.
have to think the only way brown gets any more snaps for this team this year is if becton gets hurt at LT (which may happen yet given our history and his history, freak this excrement).
think good thoughts, mitchell will work at RT, if not warren has some time to start mentally and physically preparing himself for the RT spot.
freak this excrement. we need to draft OT so badly.
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 09, 2023, 03:27:18 PM
Post by: Heismanberg on October 09, 2023, 03:40:55 PM
We need to make a move for an offensive lineman. A few teams are going to be completely buried after next week. We need to add someone and bring them in during our Bye week.
Post by: MBGreen on October 09, 2023, 03:49:34 PM
Post by: MBGreen on October 09, 2023, 03:50:51 PM
I would think it goesBring in Lael Collins for a workout
- Mitchell gets first crack
- Brown takes over at one spot when he's back if Mitchell struggles
- Warren is insurance if both fail (or if Becton fails)
- Turner is the emergency plan
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 09, 2023, 04:09:43 PM
-Becton: back to back knee injuries
-AVT: back to back season ending injuries
-Mitchell: blood clot issue
-Brown: goes to IR immediately after being signed, and again 2 weeks into the next season
-Cameron Clark: career ending neck injuries
-Carter Warren IR in rookie training camp
I’m very afraid for Mitchell right now
Post by: MBGreen on October 09, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
Why are our offensive linemen made of glass?Just the good ones
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 09, 2023, 04:15:39 PM
Just the good ones
See: edit
Post by: MBGreen on October 09, 2023, 04:21:50 PM
See: editIn b4 this is Joe Douglas's fault
Post by: d sw0rdz on October 09, 2023, 04:26:13 PM
hopefully mitchell shows us he can be one of those guys. New drafted OT is another.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 09, 2023, 04:30:03 PM
In b4 this is Joe Douglas's faultThe injuries themselves are not his fault, but if the guys he picks can't stay on the field to protect the QB it's not going to help him.
Post by: Derek Smalls on October 09, 2023, 05:00:03 PM
starting to feel like this team will have to roll out a 4-deep starter rotation at OT (and by starter, i mean legitimate starter, not make-believe like we had with brown coming into the season) just to be able to survive this inexplicable excrement every yearDidn't we essentially do that this season?
hopefully mitchell shows us he can be one of those guys. New drafted OT is another.
- Brown (has been starter his whole career)
- Becton (good starter when healthy)
- Mitchell (started for us last year)
- Turner (has been full-time starter for 5 years before this year)
- AVT as a swing
- Carter Warren (draft)
Now we have to test that depth. I don't think a trade is going to happen, nor am I convinced we should be trading draft assets to salvage a 2-3 team because one offensive lineman gets hurt. Of course if Douglas can find a good trade out there, that's great, but teams don't trade good offensive linemen. Maybe we can get a rental from a bad team, but is it worth trading a 4th-round pick for a rental in the middle of the season?
Post by: Libero_2 on October 09, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Back-to-back season ending injuries in Denver. Unreal
He’s obviously never allowed to enter the state of Colorado again.
This sucks so much for AVT. I hate watching guys who bust their derriere, and are the quintessential team guy have these issues. He’s exactly the guy you want to root for. He’s exactly the guy we want around for decades. He’s the next Nick Mangold in that sense.
But it has to be said now, with back to back catastrophic injuries, he can’t be relied on to stay on the field. We need to go heavy on the OL in the offseason.
Mitchell will start at RT this weekend against Philly.
Post by: CatoTheElder on October 09, 2023, 05:15:05 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 09, 2023, 05:34:20 PM
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
RT Alijah Vera-Tucker injured his Achilles while pass blocking Jonathon Cooper with 1:48 left in the 2nd Q. The tape shows him motioning to the sideline after the play; he knew he was hurt. He actually stayed in for another play with a torn Achilles. He got beat easily by Cooper and that was the end of his day and season. #Jets
Post by: Libero_2 on October 09, 2023, 06:11:30 PM
Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
RT Alijah Vera-Tucker injured his Achilles while pass blocking Jonathon Cooper with 1:48 left in the 2nd Q. The tape shows him motioning to the sideline after the play; he knew he was hurt. He actually stayed in for another play with a torn Achilles. He got beat easily by Cooper and that was the end of his day and season. #Jets
AVT played an NFL snap on a torn Achilles. That is just absurd. Love that guy
Post by: Badger on October 09, 2023, 06:52:25 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on October 09, 2023, 09:00:33 PM
Post by: Miamipuck on October 10, 2023, 04:37:19 AM
Why are our offensive linemen made of glass?
-Becton: back to back knee injuries
-AVT: back to back season ending injuries
-Mitchell: blood clot issue
-Brown: goes to IR immediately after being signed, and again 2 weeks into the next season
-Cameron Clark: career ending neck injuries
-Carter Warren IR in rookie training camp
I’m very afraid for Mitchell right now
Paying the Devils price for Brick and Mangold. Like Namath did.
Post by: bojanglesman on February 28, 2024, 12:34:26 PM
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GM Joe Douglas says OL Alijah Vera-Tucker is in a "great place" in his rehab process and that his permanent position hasn't been decided as of yet.
Change thread title to AVT: Gordtackle
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 28, 2024, 01:18:27 PM
Change thread title to AVT: Gordtackle
“I have no plan and am making this up as I go along.”
-Joe Douglas
Post by: Libero_2 on February 28, 2024, 03:18:46 PM
“I have no plan and am making this up as I go along.”
-Joe Douglas
To be fair… telegraphing your plans is something almost no one does,
And add in the fact we haven’t signed anyone yet, it makes sense. I want AVT at guard, I think they want AVT at guard. But we need 2 starting tackles and there might be 1 legit starting tackle in FA in Tyron Smith. We could sign an AVT like player in Owenu or Eleumanor but one of them will be out of position at tackle.
Can’t lock in AVT officially until we bring in other guys
Post by: bojanglesman on February 28, 2024, 03:48:51 PM
To be fair… telegraphing your plans is something almost no one does,
And add in the fact we haven’t signed anyone yet, it makes sense. I want AVT at guard, I think they want AVT at guard. But we need 2 starting tackles and there might be 1 legit starting tackle in FA in Tyron Smith. We could sign an AVT like player in Owenu or Eleumanor but one of them will be out of position at tackle.
Can’t lock in AVT officially until we bring in other guys
It's frustrating that we may be picking his position based on team need and not his best fit. Hopefully he's just as good at either and we can finally freaking leave him at one position.
Post by: Libero_2 on February 28, 2024, 05:17:13 PM
It's frustrating that we may be picking his position based on team need and not his best fit. Hopefully he's just as good at either and we can finally freaking leave him at one position.
That is what every Jets fan wants.
Post by: CatoTheElder on February 28, 2024, 06:03:30 PM
To be fair… telegraphing your plans is something almost no one does,Some people are good at non-responses. Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh are not these people.
And add in the fact we haven’t signed anyone yet, it makes sense. I want AVT at guard, I think they want AVT at guard. But we need 2 starting tackles and there might be 1 legit starting tackle in FA in Tyron Smith. We could sign an AVT like player in Owenu or Eleumanor but one of them will be out of position at tackle.
Can’t lock in AVT officially until we bring in other guys
Post by: Derek Smalls on February 28, 2024, 08:13:55 PM
Some people are good at non-responses. Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh are not these people.Joe Douglas never talks to anyone, so he doesn't get the practice.
Post by: MexJetinBcn on February 29, 2024, 03:52:51 AM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2024, 06:40:44 PM
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2024, 06:40:59 PM
Jets picking up 5th year optionRing of Honor, right now
Post by: Andrew Ryan on April 27, 2024, 06:45:29 PM
Post by: bojanglesman on April 27, 2024, 06:47:34 PM
Post by: Badger on April 27, 2024, 06:57:38 PM
Once he hears the news, he's going to be motivated to give us the best 6-7 weeks we've ever seen from a gord.Is there some way we can arrange the injury to occur in the summer so he can return for the second half of the season?
Post by: loyaljetsfan on April 27, 2024, 06:58:29 PM