Jet Offensive
Collegiate Football => The NFL Draft => Topic started by: SixFeetDeep on November 05, 2019, 02:16:36 PM
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Gord SZN
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The Athletic Top 100 Draft Board - Dane Brugler
https://theathletic.com/1347517/2019/11/05/updated-nfl-draft-board-offensive-tackles-make-greatest-jump-top-100/?amp=undef
3- Tristan Wirfs (OT)
4- Andrew Thomas (OT)
10- Jedrick Wills Jr. (OT)
23- Austin Jackson (OT)
24- Alex Leatherwood (OT)
“As the draft board expands into the top 100, a few offensive tackles have made the largest jump up the draft board, specifically Alabama junior Jedrick Willis and USC junior Austin Jackson.”
Not sure why Trey Smith isn’t on this list...
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thanks daddy
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Build the wall.
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Build the wall.
The wall of justice?
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Austin Jackson is a player that I really want to focus on.
USC freaking stinks and I hate watching their offense. He's been getting a lot of hype lately.
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Trade down and take two of these fat fucks
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Trade down and take two of these fat fucks
I think Jamal Adams is gone in the offseason, which should render us an additional 1st rounder (at the very least). We should be able to draft 2 fat fucks and a skinny freak to play WR in the first 2 rounds.
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Austin Jackson is a player that I really want to focus on.
USC freaking stinks and I hate watching their offense. He's been getting a lot of hype lately.
Watching their offense is like listening to nails on a chalkboard. Total trash. How Helton still has a job is beyond me.
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*bump*
USC's 2019 offense under new OC Graham Harrell's version of the Air Raid has done a 180-degree turn and that's with 3 different QBs having had to play because of injuries. Starter JT Daniels gets hurt, replaced by freshman Kedon Slovis who gets hurt, replaced by Matt Fink (who upsets top-10 Utah). Now Solvis is back and has thrown for 400+ yds. in 4 of USC's last 5 games. Former OC Tee Martin back at Tenn.as WR coach. USC WR Michael Pittman, emerging red zone target
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*bump*
USC's 2019 offense under new OC Graham Harrell's version of the Air Raid has done a 180-degree turn and that's with 3 different QBs having had to play because of injuries. Starter JT Daniels gets hurt, replaced by freshman Kedon Slovis who gets hurt, replaced by Matt Fink (who upsets top-10 Utah). Now Solvis is back and has thrown for 400+ yds. in 4 of USC's last 5 games. Former OC Tee Martin back at Tenn.as WR coach. USC WR Michael Pittman, emerging red zone target
Michael Pittman will be a steal...if he doesn't sneak into the first round.
It's looking more and more likely that we'll be picking outside of the top ten. Alabama's Alex Leatherwood and Jedrick Wills are more realistic targets for us.
I do think that Joe Douglas will sign a couple new OL starters in FA too.
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Michael Pittman will be a steal...if he doesn't sneak into the first round.
It's looking more and more likely that we'll be picking outside of the top ten. Alabama's Alex Leatherwood and Jedrick Wills are more realistic targets for us.
I do think that Joe Douglas will sign a couple new OL starters in FA too.
I didn't know a ton about Pittman, but I went to the USC-Utah game earlier this season, and Utah had no answers for Pittman. USC's backup QB would just chuck deep balls up to Pittman, and he would go and get them. Big fan of his. Utah is one of the best defenses in the nation, and their cornerbacks had no chance.
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Our random assortment of dudes only allowed 1 sack today. Still no running game though.
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I'm very impressed with that interior today. I always suspected that Jon Harrison might be a competent player, but I never expected Lewis or Compton to be better than the players they replaced. That might be a very low bar but they've still cleared it.
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I'm very impressed with that interior today. I always suspected that Jon Harrison might be a competent player, but I never expected Lewis or Compton to be better than the players they replaced. That might be a very low bar but they've still cleared it.
Flattered by the opposition, who didn't really test them all that much. I still think Lewis is crap, Harrison and Compton are at best backups.
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I didn't know a ton about Pittman, but I went to the USC-Utah game earlier this season, and Utah had no answers for Pittman. USC's backup QB would just chuck deep balls up to Pittman, and he would go and get them. Big fan of his. Utah is one of the best defenses in the nation, and their cornerbacks had no chance.
Looking at him, aside from him having the same name as the guy, you'd never know he's the son of former NFL RB Michael Pittman.
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Flattered by the opposition, who didn't really test them all that much. I still think Lewis is crap, Harrison and Compton are at best backups.
Oakland's front has performed pretty well lately. Ferrell and Crosby are solid rookie pass rushers. Maurice Hurst is usually a problem as well.
One of their sacks was taken away on that awful roughing penalty that the officials gifted us.
This unit we put out there today seems to play much better together than one run by Ryan Kalil and Brian Winters. We've improved tremendously in pass protection without those two on the field.
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Oakland's front has performed pretty well lately. Ferrell and Crosby are solid rookie pass rushers. Maurice Hurst is usually a problem as well.
One of their sacks was taken away on that awful roughing penalty that the officials gifted us.
This unit we put out there today seems to play much better together than one run by Ryan Kalil and Brian Winters. We've improved tremendously in pass protection without those two on the field.
Beachum's return was the catalyst for the improvement, he is a huge upgrade on Edoga at LT. Frankly I think MBGreen would be a huge improvement on Edoga, who is trash no matter which side he plays. He might improve but I have my doubts. Harrison isn't very good either, the pressure on Sam today was mostly coming up the middle. This OL is still bad and a better defense would have caused more problems.
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Beachum's return was the catalyst for the improvement, he is a huge upgrade on Edoga at LT. Frankly I think MBGreen would be a huge improvement on Edoga, who is trash no matter which side he plays. He might improve but I have my doubts. Harrison isn't very good either, the pressure on Sam today was mostly coming up the middle. This OL is still bad and a better defense would have caused more problems.
The problem on the interior was mostly Tom Compton, who got away with multiple holding calls.
You can't blame the talent around Brian Winters for his sucking over multiple seasons and continue to blame Jon Harrison for our struggles when he's playing next to our third and fourth string guards.
Lewis is not good either, but he's valuable as depth. I'm be OK with him starting in 2020, same with Harrison. We have to upgrade right guard and right tackle more than any position on the roster.
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The problem on the interior was mostly Tom Compton, who got away with multiple holding calls.
You can't blame the talent around Brian Winters for his sucking over multiple seasons and continue to blame Jon Harrison for our struggles when he's playing next to our third and fourth string guards.
Lewis is not good either, but he's valuable as depth. I'm be OK with him starting in 2020, same with Harrison. We have to upgrade right guard and right tackle more than any position on the roster.
This is exactly how I feel.
I think Harrison is okay. He definitely has a good rapport with Darnold, and I don't think that can be overstated. Long and Kalil literally could not even cleanly snap the ball to him.
I don't think Beachum is a pro-bowler, but this team could do a lot worse at LT.
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Michael Pittman will be a steal...if he doesn't sneak into the first round.
It's looking more and more likely that we'll be picking outside of the top ten. Alabama's Alex Leatherwood and Jedrick Wills are more realistic targets for us.
I do think that Joe Douglas will sign a couple new OL starters in FA too.
What would be your sharp draft eye take on this--too OL heavy? (Jets currently hold picks 10, 41, 67 and 76):
1st: Jedrick Wills
2nd: (pipe dream: Shaun Wade, CB, OSU) other possibles: Tee Higgins/Michael Pittman WR or AJ Terrell CB
3rd: Trey Smith, OG
3rd: Lloyd Cushenberry, C
FA: Brandon Shereff, OG
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What would be your sharp draft eye take on this--too OL heavy? (Jets currently hold picks 10, 41, 67 and 76):
1st: Jedrick Wills
2nd: (pipe dream: Shaun Wade, CB, OSU) other possibles: Tee Higgins/Michael Pittman WR or AJ Terrell CB
3rd: Trey Smith, OG
3rd: Lloyd Cushenberry, C
FA: Brandon Shereff, OG
I see Wills as more of a guard, but he could certainly play right tackle. Alex Leatherwood is the Alabama OT that I'm intrigued by. Super bright kid off the field and is really athletic.
Shaun Wade is an awesome chess piece, but it appears we've found a really good nickel corner in Brian Poole.
Trey Smith is the best OL in this class not named Andrew Thomas, but the blood clot stuff scares the hell out of me.
Scherff should be one of our top targets.
That draft would be a nice starting point. If we don't come out of this draft with two wide receivers, Douglas has failed. This is the best WR class in at least 20 years.
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I see Wills as more of a guard, but he could certainly play right tackle. Alex Leatherwood is the Alabama OT that I'm intrigued by. Super bright kid off the field and is really athletic.
Shaun Wade is an awesome chess piece, but it appears we've found a really good nickel corner in Brian Poole.
Trey Smith is the best OL in this class not named Andrew Thomas, but the blood clot stuff scares the hell out of me.
Scherff should be one of our top targets.
That draft would be a nice starting point. If we don't come out of this draft with two wide receivers, Douglas has failed. This is the best WR class in at least 20 years.
Based on my rudimentary analysis prior to FA, this should be the best case scenario for us, assuming value meets need
1 - OT
2 - BPA at need position not filled in FA (could be C, CB, Edge at this point)
3 - WR
3 - Interior OL (G or C)
4 - LB
5 - WR
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Scherff should be one of our top targets.
I'm still quite keen on the idea of Conklin as well, when he's healthy he's a beast. If we could get both in FA we'd be in awesome shape for the draft.
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Last year, it was floated that Beachum could move over to the right side. What if they brought him back, drafted a tackle and put him on the right to start, then swapped them when the kid was ready? Would that be a viable plan?
I figure Beachum shouldn't be too expensive to return, and he seems to be a guy Gase and the rest of his unit respect.
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Last year, it was floated that Beachum could move over to the right side. What if they brought him back, drafted a tackle and put him on the right to start, then swapped them when the kid was ready? Would that be a viable plan?
I figure Beachum shouldn't be too expensive to return, and he seems to be a guy Gase and the rest of his unit respect.
He's serviceable on the left, but I'm not sure I'd want to see what he's like playing on a side he's not used to. I remember a lineman, maybe Joe Thomas, being asked a while back what it was like switching sides as a tackle. He described it as like trying to wipe your derriere with the wrong hand - you can do it, but it's more difficult and carries an increased possibility of making a mess.
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He's serviceable on the left, but I'm not sure I'd want to see what he's like playing on a side he's not used to. I remember a lineman, maybe Joe Thomas, being asked a while back what it was like switching sides as a tackle. He described it as like trying to wipe your derriere with the wrong hand - you can do it, but it's more difficult and carries an increased possibility of making a mess.
We disagree a bit on him because I think he's a bit better than serviceable. I assume there is a curve when changing sides, but I assume it's easier for a LT to move right than the other way around.
I don't know if it would be a permanent solution, but it would be nice to reduce the number of needs in the draft, so we can do things like draft a WR like Heismanberg said.
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We disagree a bit on him because I think he's a bit better than serviceable. I assume there is a curve when changing sides, but I assume it's easier for a LT to move right than the other way around.
I don't know if it would be a permanent solution, but it would be nice to reduce the number of needs in the draft, so we can do things like draft a WR like Heismanberg said.
I think Beachum is fine, his return from injury made a huge difference to the quality of our line play and thus to Sam's performance. I'd just rather not be trying to ask players to operate outside their strengths, it makes more sense to just draft someone to play RT.
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I think Beachum is fine, his return from injury made a huge difference to the quality of our line play and thus to Sam's performance. I'd just rather not be trying to ask players to operate outside their strengths, it makes more sense to just draft someone to play RT.
My thought process was: draft a big upgrade at LT as one of the cornerstones of the OL rebuild. Since Beachum has proven to be a capable starter and leader, keep him around. That means one less "need" in the upcoming draft, which leaves a pick open for a wide receiver or corner or EDGE.
Obviously, Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'd like to give Sam the best line possible, while not ignoring the other big needs around the roster.
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My thought process was: draft a big upgrade at LT as one of the cornerstones of the OL rebuild. Since Beachum has proven to be a capable starter and leader, keep him around. That means one less "need" in the upcoming draft, which leaves a pick open for a wide receiver or corner or EDGE.
Obviously, Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'd like to give Sam the best line possible, while not ignoring the other big needs around the roster.
Tristan Wirfs, who seems more likely to be available to us than Andrew Thomas given recent wins, is a right tackle. He may well be able to play left side but it makes a bunch of sense to start a rookie at a position he knows. Jack Conklin, who is going to hit FA and who I have a big crush on, is a right tackle and a bloody good one as long as he stays healthy. We will have plenty of options to rebuild the line this year without trying to crowbar our one starting quality player into a position he hasn't played since his rookie year. I would definitely re-sign him though.
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Tristan Wirfs, who seems more likely to be available to us than Andrew Thomas given recent wins, is a right tackle. He may well be able to play left side but it makes a bunch of sense to start a rookie at a position he knows. Jack Conklin, who is going to hit FA and who I have a big crush on, is a right tackle and a bloody good one as long as he stays healthy. We will have plenty of options to rebuild the line this year without trying to crowbar our one starting quality player into a position he hasn't played since his rookie year. I would definitely re-sign him though.
I can definitely get on board with drafting a right tackle high instead, and just keeping Beachum at left.
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Right tackle and right guard are the biggest holes on the roster
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Right tackle and right guard are the biggest holes on the roster
Honest question, assuming Beachum has been re-signed already: If an elite LT is there whenever we pick in R1, do you take him?
Or would you look at other positions (CB, EDGE, WR, C) with that pick/try to trade down, then draft for the right side later?
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Honest question, assuming Beachum has been re-signed already: If an elite LT is there whenever we pick in R1, do you take him?
Or would you look at other positions (CB, EDGE, WR, C) with that pick/try to trade down, then draft for the right side later?
I think you always look to trade down first unless there's a prospect out there you view as a can't-miss at a position of need.
But I would have no issue drafting an elite LT and figuring things out later, whether that's moving Beachum to the right side, moving the rookie to the right side, or some other combination.
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Honest question, assuming Beachum has been re-signed already: If an elite LT is there whenever we pick in R1, do you take him?
Or would you look at other positions (CB, EDGE, WR, C) with that pick/try to trade down, then draft for the right side later?
If Andrew Thomas is just sitting there on the clock and we have resigned Beachum already, I draft Thomas, don’t think twice about it. If we don’t think Beachum is a feasible RT (that experiment in Pittsburgh went very poorly) then we immediately put him on the block and try and recoup a 2nd +. Beachum would be a commodity as there are ALWAYS teams in need of OL that don’t get their wish on draft night. If we think Beachum will be a reasonable deal, then so will other teams.
Could you imagine drafting Thomas, trading Beachum to a team like Washington and grabbing the Wisconsin kid and still having a 2nd and 2 3rds to draft some damn play makers?
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Nobody is trading anything for Kelvin Beachum’s broken down derriere
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If Andrew Thomas is just sitting there on the clock and we have resigned Beachum already, I draft Thomas, don’t think twice about it. If we don’t think Beachum is a feasible RT (that experiment in Pittsburgh went very poorly) then we immediately put him on the block and try and recoup a 2nd +. Beachum would be a commodity as there are ALWAYS teams in need of OL that don’t get their wish on draft night. If we think Beachum will be a reasonable deal, then so will other teams.
Could you imagine drafting Thomas, trading Beachum to a team like Washington and grabbing the Wisconsin kid and still having a 2nd and 2 3rds to draft some damn play makers?
Has any team ever done a sign and trade that wasn't requested by the player?
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Has any team ever done a sign and trade that wasn't requested by the player?
Didn’t we do this with Abram Elam in the Sanchez trade?
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Based on my rudimentary analysis prior to FA, this should be the best case scenario for us, assuming value meets need
1 - OT
2 - BPA at need position not filled in FA (could be C, CB, Edge at this point)
3 - WR
3 - Interior OL (G or C)
4 - LB
5 - WR
Why do we need a lb
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I'm usually big on shitting on Beachum and wanting an upgrade, but credit where its due. You can see the appreciable difference with him in the lineup.
I still can't believe the Redskins would be dumb enough not to franchise Scherff. But this is the Redskins we're talking about.
I think Conklin's almost certain to hit FA given the money the Titans are already spending on their line and the fact that if they really feel like they found their future at quarterback with Tannehill, he's going to need a new deal.
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Didn’t we do this with Abram Elam in the Sanchez trade?
Not that I recall, but you might be right. Sign and trade generally doesn't make sense in the NFL though - it works in the NBA because players can get better contracts from it, but in the NFL the only party that benefits is the team doing the trading. Free agency makes more sense for the player and the destination team, it's usually a Drew Stanton kind of situation that happens in the NFL.
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Why do we need a lb
Because we only have one reasonable starting OLB and Jenkins is a FA
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Not that I recall, but you might be right. Sign and trade generally doesn't make sense in the NFL though - it works in the NBA because players can get better contracts from it, but in the NFL the only party that benefits is the team doing the trading. Free agency makes more sense for the player and the destination team, it's usually a Drew Stanton kind of situation that happens in the NFL.
I think it works better in the nba because systems are less prevalent. Lebron james will be effective on every team. The same can't be said for lamar jackson
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We really need Wirfs to declare and not go back to school. I'm hoping Pauline continues to not know excrement about anything draft related, and his rumor about Wirfs going back to school is incorrect.
I have a soxxx funny feeling we won't be drafting high enough to land A.Thomas, and Wirfs could fall into our lap somewhere between 6 and 10.
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I'm usually big on shitting on Beachum and wanting an upgrade, but credit where its due. You can see the appreciable difference with him in the lineup.
Yeah, I'm back to this.
Andrew Thomas likely won't be around (I think Washington would be insane to pass on him given Trent Williams status, the fact that they just took a quarterback and the near certainty that Chase Young won't be on the board when they select). Wirfs declaring would greatly assist for the obvious reason of adding more depth to the class and moving others down the board, if not outright being a possibility when the Jets pick.
I know we say it every year, but given the depth of certain need positions we're looking for this year (T, WR) I wouldn't mind seeing a trade down, getting some assets and still being put in a position to still grab a guy like Austin Jackson.
If there were other parts of this offensive line I felt comfortable with, or if I felt comfortable bringing Beachum back and letting him sit a year to learn and grow, I'd be all about taking Prince Tega Wanogho if he fell to us in the second. But we don't have that luxury, the wall needs to be built for Sam ASAP.
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I wouldn't mind double-dipping at OLine in the first three rounds this year. The OLine has been better with Beachum in there but he's still not great and he's only getting older.
I think Harrison has earned the starting center job for next season but every other position on that OLine needs to be upgraded.
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I just hope we release the biggest weakness on our OL: Brian Winters
It'd be nice to have at least four new OL starters in 2020.
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Our top offensive targets in FA should be Brandon Scherff and Kyle Long
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Our top offensive targets in FA should be Brandon Scherff and Kyle Long
I'm still on the Jack Conklin train as well. Gimme a bunch of them big dumb Mid West farm boys standing in front of Sam.
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I just hope we release the biggest weakness on our OL: Brian Winters
It'd be nice to have at least four new OL starters in 2020.
According to Spotrac, he's due $7.5MM but has a dead cap hit of $0.
Winters Is Going
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I'm still on the Jack Conklin train as well. Gimme a bunch of them big dumb Mid West farm boys standing in front of Sam.
id be excited for all 3. Then with Edoga and Harrison we have a reasonable line, we don’t have to force a draft pick in the first, but it still should be a priority.
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Has Edoga looked good? I missed that.
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Has Edoga looked good? I missed that.
No, he's been absolute freaking garbage. But he is a rookie and the OL coaching has clearly been abysmal, so he's due another chance.
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No, he's been absolute freaking garbage. But he is a rookie and the OL coaching has clearly been abysmal, so he's due another chance.
there has definitely been a ton of bad but he's also had his moments. like you mentioned, he's a young rookie
shell has been a good servant but you have to believe he's done here after this season
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Has Edoga looked good? I missed that.
He's been very inconsistent. Absolutely terrible as a run blocker. He has some really good games in pass pro and then some awful ones.
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shell has been a good servant but you have to believe he's done here after this season
Brandon Shell is garbage. Carlos Dunlap ended his career last weekend.
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Brandon Shell
Jarvis Harrison
Chuma Edoga
That's Mac's freaking legacy in terms of trying to build an offensive line through the draft. Horrible.
Said it in another thread, maneuvering to get rid of him might have been scummy, but its a positive when evaluating Gase.
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Joe Douglas’s Draft Strategy:
BOLA
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Joe Douglas’s Draft Strategy:
BOLA
BGA (in the later rounds)
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BGA (in the later rounds)
Yeasss
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Mekhi Becton needs to be a Jet
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Mekhi Becton needs to be a Jet
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/all-aboard--the-mekhi-becton-hype-train-is-leaving-the-station
Last night's Holiday Bowl - SC's Austin Jackson was fairly holding his own vs. Iowa's AJ Epenesa until one play in the 3rd quarter where he lost him (and his QB Kedon Slovis in the process) and with it the game. From there he (and SC) was a mess. On the flip side, Tristan Wirfs was flat out awesome both run and pass.
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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/all-aboard--the-mekhi-becton-hype-train-is-leaving-the-station
Last night's Holiday Bowl - SC's Austin Jackson was fairly holding his own vs. Iowa's AJ Epenesa until one play in the 3rd quarter where he lost him (and his QB Kedon Slovis in the process) and with it the game. From there he (and SC) was a mess. On the flip side, Tristan Wirfs was flat out awesome both run and pass.
I enjoyed watching Wirfs last night. Jackson didn’t have a great game against Epensa.
I did come away impressed with Slovis before he got hurt for SC, and I had flashbacks to a few Chrebet grabs by Iowa’s #84. But I can’t remember his name. Pretty sure he was an underclassman
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Thomas
Wirfs
Wills
Becton
Becton is talented enough to be the top tackle in this year's class
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Would be nice to see a back to back o-line draft like we did with Adams and Maye. Would certainly be complained about less.
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Would be nice to see a back to back o-line draft like we did with Adams and Maye. Would certainly be complained about less.
Wirfs and Becton
Becton calls himself the Big Ticket...paving the pathway to stardom
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Wirfs and Becton
Becton calls himself the Big Ticket...paving the pathway to stardom
If he has the movement skills described by the draft network, there is no way he’s on the board in the early second round.
But man that would give us some solid tackles to start the future OL with
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Wouldn't be shocked if we showed a ton of interest in Temple C Matt Hennessy
(And yes, he is our long snapper's brother...)
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Wouldn't be shocked if we showed a ton of interest in Temple C Matt Hennessy
(And yes, he is our long snapper's brother...)
In which round do you see him going?
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Jedrick Wills or Tristan Wirfs is the hope for me at the moment....
Love Nick Harris as a 3rd round interior guy as well...
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Jedrick Wills or Tristan Wirfs is the hope for me at the moment....
Love Nick Harris as a 3rd round interior guy as well...
MEKHI BECTON
I will scream his name anytime someone mentions a tackle
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In which round do you see him going?
Late second, early third.
We really need LSU's Lloyd Cushenberry to enter this draft class. A strong center we could target in the second.
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The kid that I coached (Gage Cervenka) can play guard and center. He was second team All-ACC as a guard. He is a converted defensive lineman, so he only has three years experience as an OL. He is the strongest player in college football and if he gets a combine invite, he'll have a shot at the bench record. 199-1 record as a heavyweight wrestler in high school.
Obviously I'd love for us to draft him, but we'll see.
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Do you think Hennessy is worth a reach early in the round or would it be worth more to trade back into the late second for him?
Or did we acquire another pick that I forgot about?
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Nania: Jets haven't drafted an offensive lineman in the first round since 2006 (Brick & Mangold), longest active streak in the NFL
Since 2007 they have drafted just one OL in the top two rounds (Ducasse), also fewest in the league.
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Nania: Jets haven't drafted an offensive lineman in the first round since 2006 (Brick & Mangold), longest active streak in the NFL
Since 2007 they have drafted just one OL in the top two rounds (Ducasse), also fewest in the league.
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I’ve been complaining about this for the last three years at least. For the love of whatever superior being you believe in, commit to the freaking offense.
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I’ve been complaining about this for the last three years at least. For the love of whatever superior being you believe in, commit to the freaking offense.
Duff said at one point that he would ideally draft an 3-4 OLB every year while running that scheme in order to keep the pipeline stocked. Wonder if he actually stuck to that. Thank God for Jordan Jenkins
Prob should have used that philosophy with OL instead of completely neglecting the position. I thought I was taking crazy pills when it basically happened again this year
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I think Duff was of the mentality that it was too hard to develop a college OL into an NFL lineman with all the spread offenses, and it was better to just stock the line with free agents. I sort of understand, but it didn't work.
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I think Duff was of the mentality that it was too hard to develop a college OL into an NFL lineman with all the spread offenses, and it was better to just stock the line with free agents. I sort of understand, but it didn't work.
I could agree with this philosophy, but we didn’t sign anyone of note.
James Carpenter
Spencer Long
Traded for Osemele
Those are Duffs 3 big moves on the OL in his tenure. Carpenter was solid initially, but needed replacing, Long and Osemele could not have gone worse. He had two options for attacking the OL, signing vets or drafting players. He didn’t draft them, but that wouldn’t have been that bad if he had signed anyone of impact. But he didn’t.
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I could agree with this philosophy, but we didn’t sign anyone of note.
James Carpenter
Spencer Long
Traded for Osemele
Those are Duffs 3 big moves on the OL in his tenure. Carpenter was solid initially, but needed replacing, Long and Osemele could not have gone worse. He had two options for attacking the OL, signing vets or drafting players. He didn’t draft them, but that wouldn’t have been that bad if he had signed anyone of impact. But he didn’t.
Beachum
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Beachum
For some reason I thought he was Idziks
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I think Duff was of the mentality that it was too hard to develop a college OL into an NFL lineman with all the spread offenses, and it was better to just stock the line with free agents. I sort of understand, but it didn't work.
Which is why he doesn’t have a job now. Duff was, by most reports, an indecisive hoo-ha. Every other team develops lineman. The patriots have probably had a full 5 man OL picked from UDFA or waivers better than anyone Duff added over the last 5 years. Suck it up and draft some gords.
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Looking back at how our OL was constructed at previous peaks (2004, 2008) or even the last time it was serviceable (2015) it always seemed to be a 3:2 homegrown:FA ratio.
Without a steady pipeline of homegrown players the OL has been floundering since Brick and Mangold left.
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I think we should try to bring back Kelvin Beachum. He isn't very good but he's a good locker room guy and he can start at either tackle spot.
Ryan Kalil, Brian Winters, Brent Qvale, and Brandon Shell all need to go. Alex Lewis and Jon Harrison can compete for starting jobs, but are probably better off as quality depth on the interior. Nothing wrong with that. I'm cool with Tom Compton coming back as depth too.
It's essential that Joe Douglas comes away with at least one starting lineman in free agency and at least one more in the NFL Draft.
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I’d love another iteration of the 2006 draft.
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Suck it up and draft some gords.
Are you aware that we can get some gords in the later rounds? You can always do that.
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Are you aware that we can get some gords in the later rounds? You can always do that.
Not if you don't actually draft any in the late rounds
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I think we should try to bring back Kelvin Beachum. He isn't very good but he's a good locker room guy and he can start at either tackle spot.
Ryan Kalil, Brian Winters, Brent Qvale, and Brandon Shell all need to go. Alex Lewis and Jon Harrison can compete for starting jobs, but are probably better off as quality depth on the interior. Nothing wrong with that. I'm cool with Tom Compton coming back as depth too.
It's essential that Joe Douglas comes away with at least one starting lineman in free agency and at least one more in the NFL Draft.
I agree with this line of thinking although I'd hope for 3 new legitimate starting options; 1 free agent and 2 of our first 3 picks. This line is so so bad....if Darnold wasn't so mobile he'd have been sacked on David Carr levels. Like you said, bringing back Beachum to play either tackle spot is fine for a year and one of Harrison, Lewis or Compton starting next year is also fine.
Draft a tackle in round 1 (I know you are high on Becton, I am as well but need to see more) and the best interior guy available in round 2 or 3 and this line would be well improved. I'm leaning towards a WR in round 2 and an interior in round 3 right now.
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I agree with this line of thinking although I'd hope for 3 new legitimate starting options; 1 free agent and 2 of our first 3 picks. This line is so so bad....if Darnold wasn't so mobile he'd have been sacked on David Carr levels. Like you said, bringing back Beachum to play either tackle spot is fine for a year and one of Harrison, Lewis or Compton starting next year is also fine.
Draft a tackle in round 1 (I know you are high on Becton, I am as well but need to see more) and the best interior guy available in round 2 or 3 and this line would be well improved. I'm leaning towards a WR in round 2 and an interior in round 3 right now.
I'd really like to bring in 2 FA's, one Tackle and one Interior guy and resigning Lewis / Harrison/ Compton and then drafting 2 guys in the first 3 rounds.
My top target in FA is Scherff for sure.
Top OL guys to me
Brandon Scherff
Kelvin Beachum
Jack Conklin
Andrus Peat
Connor McGovern
Top draft targets
Andrew Thomas
Tristan Wirfs
Mekhi Becton
Tyler Biadasz
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Incognito
Oday Aboushi
Ereck Flowers
Ben Ijalana
Dakota Dozier
All Elite FA
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I'd love to see Douglas devote both money and multiple picks to OL. If you can acquire 2 linemen in FA and 2 in the draft, I think it's a successful offseason.
And I would bring back both Beachum and Harrison.
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Incognito
Oday Aboushi
Ereck Flowers
Ben Ijalana
Dakota Dozier
All Elite FA
Wheres Wayne Hunter at
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Wheres Wayne Hunter at
I was going to make a joke about him probably working a nightclub door somewhere, but a quick google tells me that he's actually now a firefighter in Seattle.
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Updated list of OTs with R1 talent:
Tristan Wirfs - Iowa
Andrew Thomas - UGA
Jedrick Wills Jr. - Bama
Mekhi Becton - Louisville
Austin Jackson - USC
Alex Leatherwood - Bama
Borderline:
Trey Smith - Tenn (Undeclared)
Suggestions/feedback welcome
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Wheres Wayne Hunter at
This post triggered me
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2 OL with our first 4 picks and Douglas can stay
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2 OL with our first 4 picks and Douglas can stay
Yer gordamn right!
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https://twitter.com/tampabaytre/status/1219402818517377024?s=21
Let’s gooooo
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So, uh, @UConnFootball OT Matt Peart has a 7-foot-1 wingspan 😳😳
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Prrrrrrrrt
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Prrrrrrrrt
Yerrrrrrrt
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Hmm right now Daniel Jeremiah has the OL in the exact opposite order I have them in lol
Becton, Wills, Wirfs, Thomas
I do think Becton might have the highest ceiling.
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Becton easily has the most potential
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Hmm right now Daniel Jeremiah has the OL in the exact opposite order I have them in lol
Becton, Wills, Wirfs, Thomas
I do think Becton might have the highest ceiling.
I think Tanogo has a high ceiling at left tackle which obviously in incredibly valuable.
For McShay to put him as a higher prospect than Wirfs who's a day 1 starter and might have the highest floor of anyone at left or right tackle in the draft is questionable at best. For him to put him over Becton I'm assuming because he thinks Tanogo has more potential is ridiculous.
Guy wonders why he gets roundly criticized by personnel departments every April.
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Tega Wanogho is not a good run blocker and he absolutely has to play in a zone scheme or he’ll be derriere
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PTW and Becton are polar opposites
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https://twitter.com/jreidnfl/status/1236527608898166789?s=21
I just want 1
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https://twitter.com/jreidnfl/status/1236527608898166789?s=21
I just want 1
I don’t think it’s too much to ask
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https://twitter.com/jreidnfl/status/1236527608898166789?s=21
I just want 1
All this smoke is just what we need to push Trey Adams down to us at 11.
(https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/college-football/players/full/3886808.png&w=350&h=254)
Fell in love the first time I saw him. It's like Rex Ryan after a stroke.
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All this smoke is just what we need to push Trey Adams down to us at 11.
(https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/college-football/players/full/3886808.png&w=350&h=254)
Fell in love the first time I saw him. It's like Rex Ryan after a stroke.
I thought it was fat Dylan Donahue
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All this smoke is just what we need to push Trey Adams down to us at 11.
(https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/college-football/players/full/3886808.png&w=350&h=254)
Fell in love the first time I saw him. It's like Rex Ryan after a stroke.
Jesus you weren't joking
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He looks like Rex Ryan if he was 30 years younger and was mentally retarded
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Douglas says the oline needs more work.
"We made strides, but for us to go where we want to go we need to be the best."
My GM.
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My GM.
Linderbaum confirmed. Heismanberg in pieces.
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Fire Douglas
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Our defense is excrement, but if we add two probowl starters to this offense on day 1 to help out zach I'm not sure anyone can really be mad.
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I want an offensive line so dominant that MB could run through the A gap for 10 yards consistently while eating an Arby's Cheddar melt.
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I want an offensive line so dominant that MB could run through the A gap for 10 yards consistently while eating an Arby's Cheddar melt.
I'm in
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I want an offensive line so dominant that MB could run through the A gap for 10 yards consistently while eating an Arby's Cheddar melt.
I'm in
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He’s in. Ekwonu at 4 and Linderbaum at 10 confirmed
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He’s in. Ekwonu at 4 and Linderbaum at 10 confirmed
Bring on the beef n cheddars
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He’s in. Ekwonu at 4 and Linderbaum at 10 confirmed
Fant-AVT-McG-Ekwonu-Becton
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Fant-AVT-McG-Ekwonu-Becton
Linderbaum the best TE we’ve had in years
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Linderbaum the best TE we’ve had in years
Put some respect on Connor McDermott's name.
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Put some respect on Connor McDermott's name.
The only thing he can do better for this franchise than that TD is get replaced.
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Linderbaum the best TE we’ve had in years
Honestly I just brainfarted while typing that
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https://twitter.com/thorku/status/1482038240395894787?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pff_college/status/1486330585702354946?s=21
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https://twitter.com/pff_college/status/1486330585702354946?s=21
NC State. Must draft him.
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1240043212867239938?s=21&t=e3Fr0AtxhINqv26phPYpaQ
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1240043212867239938?s=21&t=e3Fr0AtxhINqv26phPYpaQ
No wonder we broke Sam. Jesus freaking Christ
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https://twitter.com/connor_j_hughes/status/1240043212867239938?s=21&t=e3Fr0AtxhINqv26phPYpaQ
J E R R Y ' S K I D S O L
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No wonder we broke Sam. Jesus freaking Christ
freaking hell, I'd managed to put Alex Lewis completely out of my head until now. Him and Edoga are two of my most hated players of recent years and there's some strong competition for that particular accolade.
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Gord at 15 and 43
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2024 Offensive Tackle class is the best I've ever seen
Olumuyiwa Fashanu - Penn State
Joe Alt - Notre Dame
Kingsley Suamataia - BYU
Graham Barton - Duke
JC Latham - Alabama
Tyler Guyton - Oklahoma
Amarius Mims - Georgia
Jordan Morgan - Arizona
Patrick Paul - Houston
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2024 Offensive Tackle class is the best I've ever seen
Olumuyiwa Fashanu - Penn State
Joe Alt - Notre Dame
Kingsley Suamataia - BYU
Graham Barton - Duke
JC Latham - Alabama
Tyler Guyton - Oklahoma
Amarius Mims - Georgia
Jordan Morgan - Arizona
Patrick Paul - Houston
choose the most "durable" one, and let's ride.
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choose the most "durable" one, and let's ride.
We're probably not going to have a shot at Olu and Alt.
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We're probably not going to have a shot at Olu and Alt.
Were they the only durable ones on your list?
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choose the most "durable" one, and let's ride.
D'Brickashaw Ferguson is criminally underrated, sometimes even by this fanbase.
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D'Brickashaw Ferguson is criminally underrated, sometimes even by this fanbase.
He was an elite prospect
I remember on TGG when he used to get excrement for being too light
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He was an elite prospect
I remember on TGG when he used to get excrement for being to light
#membaberries
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2024 Offensive Tackle class is the best I've ever seen
Olumuyiwa Fashanu - Penn State
Joe Alt - Notre Dame
Kingsley Suamataia - BYU
Graham Barton - Duke
JC Latham - Alabama
Tyler Guyton - Oklahoma
Amarius Mims - Georgia
Jordan Morgan - Arizona
Patrick Paul - Houston
some of these names have amazing potential
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some of these names have amazing potential
Yeah, some S tier names in there. Patrick Paul is a bit mid. Jordan Morgan as well. Tyler Guyton is low-key good, though.
This is coming from a Steve Smith, I'm a bit of an expert on names.
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Joe Alt has a lot of potential if he plays right tackle.
Kingsley is obvious.
Mims has potential.
Can make some of the others work, too, though they may take more effort.
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Joe Alt has a lot of potential if he plays right tackle.
Kingsley is obvious.
Mims has potential.
Can make some of the others work, too, though they may take more effort.
I think Joe Alt can play left tackle.
Graham Burton is underrated right now.
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we have a tough schedule this year...i'm expecting we'll finish with a .500 record, give or take. So we're probably picking in the teens at the draft. Who do you think will be available from that list?
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I think Joe Alt can play left tackle.
Graham Burton is underrated right now.
We can make the Alt Left work on this board, though not sure how MJ would feel.
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we have a tough schedule this year...i'm expecting we'll finish with a .500 record, give or take. So we're probably picking in the teens at the draft. Who do you think will be available from that list?
It's pretty cloudy right now.
Olu is probably the only lock in the Top 10.
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We can make the Alt Left work on this board, though not sure how MJ would feel.
Ah, I misread your post. You were talking about nicknames.
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do any of these guys offer T/G versatility?
i'm a big fan of that now given our injury history, after what we were able to do with AVT (RIP to my heart) and tippmann as far as plugging and playing them where we need to.
new OT can be our insurance plan if something happens with either AVT or becton (if he is here next year)
or if we have a need at G (injury to a guard, or dropping laken, or needing to move tippmann to C if something happens to mcgovern)
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some of these names have amazing potential
The Alt Right Tackle
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The Athletic Top 100 Draft Board - Dane Brugler
https://theathletic.com/1347517/2019/11/05/updated-nfl-draft-board-offensive-tackles-make-greatest-jump-top-100/?amp=undef
3- Tristan Wirfs (OT)
4- Andrew Thomas (OT)
10- Jedrick Wills Jr. (OT)
23- Austin Jackson (OT)
24- Alex Leatherwood (OT)
“As the draft board expands into the top 100, a few offensive tackles have made the largest jump up the draft board, specifically Alabama junior Jedrick Willis and USC junior Austin Jackson.”
Not sure why Trey Smith isn’t on this list...
Why did we pass on Wirfs :(
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some of these names have amazing potential
So we’ll end up with Jordan Morgan or Patrick Paul, 2 double first name fucks
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Ah, I misread your post. You were talking about nicknames.
Yeah the part that actually matters
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Why did we pass on Wirfs :(
If we had picked Wirfs, he’d probably be the one that was driving the car that hit Greg Knapp
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If we had picked Wirfs, he’d probably be the one that was driving the car that hit Greg Knapp
Or he'd be the one who had GVR land directly on his leg and ruin his career.
I'm so pissed off that the mother fucker is a Jets fan.
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I absolutely love AVT, but:
Darrisaw is better, the Vikings got him in the trade back with us, and he’s a natural LT
https://x.com/themaster_plan_/status/1722722719102587010?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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We could have Wirfs and Darrisaw as our starting tackles
But at least JD tried!
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https://x.com/movethesticks/status/1724083771211952197?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
https://x.com/tommyjaggi/status/1724067016460365910?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
https://x.com/theponiexpress/status/1723765811213422838?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
Yards before contact per attempt Weeks 1-7:
Steelers - 0.7 (t-30th)
Yards before contact per attempts Weeks 8-10:
Steelers - 2.1 (2nd)
When Broderick Jones DOES NOT start (6 games):
- 14 sacks (2.33/gm)
- 444 rush yds (74.0 yds/gm)
- 7 TO (1.167/gm)
When Jones DOES start (3 games):
- 4 sacks (1.33/gm)
- 485 rush yds (161.67 yds/gm)
- 1 TO (0.33/gm)
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Yes I know he wasn’t available, but
https://x.com/boygreen25/status/1661900343829995522?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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Yes I know he wasn’t available, but
https://x.com/boygreen25/status/1661900343829995522?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
He was freaking available at our original slot. But we needed to overpay for a player 31 teams didn't want or else Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have joined the team until late August, which would have been CATASTROPHIC.
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We could have Wirfs and Darrisaw as our starting tackles
But at least JD tried!
He should not be allowed to trade up anymore.
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He should not be allowed to trade up anymore.
I never like trading up because they're almost always overpayments and people typically are not good at evaluating talent enough to make trade-ups worth it. In JD's defense, the 3 main guys he's traded up for are AVT, Jermaine Johnson and Breece Hall, all of whom look like good players.
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I never like trading up because they're almost always overpayments and people typically are not good at evaluating talent enough to make trade-ups worth it. In JD's defense, the 3 main guys he's traded up for are AVT, Jermaine Johnson and Breece Hall, all of whom look like good players.
JJ is the only one I can see as clearly being worth it. AVT would have been if he could stay healthy and Breece's success is based so much on the offensive line which cannot stay healthy in general.
On paper they were all good players but as of right now I'd say 2/3 are up in the air.
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This has to be the priority. Multiple signings and picks
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This has to be the priority. Multiple signings and picks
what gave it away?
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This has to be the priority. Multiple signings and picks
And Douglas and Hogan shouldn't be doing it, given they've proven a complete inability to effectively identify and recruit the right players. As others have pointed out, it's not like they've been ignoring OL. They've signed and drafted a ton of players in the right positions, they've just been consistent failures.
It's pretty clear at this point that they don't know what they're doing when it comes to linemen.
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And Douglas and Hogan shouldn't be doing it, given they've proven a complete inability to effectively identify and recruit the right players. As others have pointed out, it's not like they've been ignoring OL. They've signed and drafted a ton of players in the right positions, they've just been consistent failures.
It's pretty clear at this point that they don't know what they're doing when it comes to linemen.
How does Hogan still have a job in this organization?
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How does Hogan still have a job in this organization?
Might as well give Hulk Hogan the job, he can't be worse.
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Might as well give Hulk Hogan the job, he can't be worse.
He can because he won't draft any black players
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My official draft stance is Seppukku party if we don’t get Joe Alt or the Penn St tackle
I will not be taking any questions at this time
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He can because he won't draft any black players
I have to say this went over my head.
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My official draft stance is Seppukku party if we don’t get Joe Alt or the Penn St tackle
I will not be taking any questions at this time
The Jets lose out they may be in on a QB.
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Wisconsin got any more OL?
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Wisconsin got any more OL?
Just more cheese
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Just more cheese
(https://media.tenor.com/UVdyTjo2DHAAAAAd/leonardo-dicaprio-sold-gif.gif)
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https://x.com/scottbarrettdfb/status/1744213146204545362?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
OL pls
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If Olu, Alt, and Odunze are gone at 10, Graham Barton should be the pick.
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i have heartedly watched or missed most of the last few games. how did carter warren fare during his starts?
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i have heartedly watched or missed most of the last few games. how did carter warren fare during his starts?
Might not be derriere
#H2P
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Jordan Reid has Jets taking Olu at 10
Todd McShay had the Jets taking Joe Alt at 10
#Seppukuonhold
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Jordan Reid has Jets taking Olu at 10
Todd McShay had the Jets taking Joe Alt at 10
#Seppukuonhold
Because right now it’s a lot sexier to mock WRs and QBs and Edge players in the top ten. In 3-4 months, the top OL will be seen as elite prospect(s) and slated top 7-8 somewhere.
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Because right now it’s a lot sexier to mock WRs and QBs and Edge players in the top ten. In 3-4 months, the top OL will be seen as elite prospect(s) and slated top 7-8 somewhere.
there will likely be other risers we are not expecting that we can jam into the top 10
gut feeling is that both of these guys will be gone by 7, but crazier things have happened
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There's always one workout warrior that rises too far. Hopefully they push someone of need and value down to us.
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@MoveTheSticks - Teams are going to have the top 8-10 OT’s in all different orders. They are each outstanding but come with diff skills & traits. I don’t think there’s a clear cut top guy right now. A bunch of guys competing for that top spot. Great year to need one! Loaded OT class.
Interesting comment from Jeremiah
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Interesting comment from Jeremiah
I have faith in Douglas to find the injury prone bust while someone drafts a multi-year All Pro three picks later.
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I have faith in Douglas to find the injury prone bust while someone drafts a multi-year All Pro three picks later.
we should've kept Maccagnan...then we could've bypassed the entire OL class for a couple of safeties.
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Interesting comment from Jeremiah
He's wrong if he thinks any of these prospects are better than Fashanu and Alt. Those are the clearcut top two prospects. Not sure which one will go first, but no OT prospect should go ahead of either.
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If there are 8-10 great tackle prospects let's trade our 3rd and zach for a 2nd and draft 2.
I'm tired of having the worst o line in the league.
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He's wrong if he thinks any of these prospects are better than Fashanu and Alt. Those are the clearcut top two prospects. Not sure which one will go first, but no OT prospect should go ahead of either.
Luckily no one picks 1-9 is allowed to take OL
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If there are 8-10 great tackle prospects let's trade our 3rd and zach for a 2nd and draft 2.
I'm tired of having the worst o line in the league.
User has been promoted to GM of the Jets for this post
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If there are 8-10 great tackle prospects let's trade our 3rd and zach for a 2nd and draft 2.
I'm tired of having the worst o line in the league.
this is the move we should have made last offseason
freak this GM. zach has no value now. we've benched him 7 freaking times, we don't want him, he doesn't want to play here anymore. there is no possible way we can leverage anything of meaning back for him anymore.
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this is the move we should have made last offseason
freak this GM. zach has no value now. we've benched him 7 freaking times, we don't want him, he doesn't want to play here anymore. there is no possible way we can leverage anything of meaning back for him anymore.
I 100% disagree. His value was nothing last year. It's undoubtedly higher this year
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I 100% disagree. His value was nothing last year. It's undoubtedly higher this year
Given last year he didn’t look like he belonged as a QB3 a year ago and this year looked like a mid to low tier backup, that’s undoubtedly worth more than last year. Now is it worth it to a team to take him on as a reclamation project for 5 million and a draft pick? I have no freaking clue
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Apple of his eye? #Jets GM Joe Douglas has an affinity for Oregon State OT Taliese Fuaga, according to buzz in scouting circles. Has been eyeing him for months, I’m told. Fuaga is attending the Senior Bowl this week.
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Rich Cimini
@RichCimini
Apple of his eye? #Jets GM Joe Douglas has an affinity for Oregon State OT Taliese Fuaga, according to buzz in scouting circles. Has been eyeing him for months, I’m told. Fuaga is attending the Senior Bowl this week.
Joe maybe shut the freak up about prospects you like. Just a thought
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Joe maybe shut the freak up about prospects you like. Just a thought
Given JD's track record with drafting linemen, I doubt anyone is stealing his homework.
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Joe maybe shut the freak up about prospects you like. Just a thought
Who knows if he even said anything.
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Joe Douglas is interested in the top offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl? You don't say.
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Paging reuben
https://x.com/eaglesxos/status/1752462911820136489?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
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https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2024-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-1-0
DJ seems to have a boner for Fuaga too.
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Paging reuben
https://x.com/eaglesxos/status/1752462911820136489?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
Low snap. Absolutely worthless prospect.
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I'd be pumped as hell if he was there in the 3rd but he won't be.
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I'd be pumped as hell if he was there in the 3rd but he won't be.
Mason McCormick has been good. He’s someone that should be around in the mid-rounds.
Elite OL name
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Joe maybe shut the freak up about prospects you like. Just a thought
Given JD's track record with drafting linemen, I doubt anyone is stealing his homework.
Joe Douglas is interested in the top offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl? You don't say.
Smokescreen, he's playing 4D chess
I heard Joe Alt puts mayo in his morning cereal.
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I have to say this went over my head.
Hulk hogan not a fan of when his daughter dated a black dude lol
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DJ has 7 OT in his top 50 players
They’re all within his top 18 players
Don’t think that I’ve ever seen anything like that before from his rankings
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DJ has 7 OT in his top 50 players
They’re all within his top 18 players
Don’t think that I’ve ever seen anything like that before from his rankings
doing the dirty work for Joe Douglas
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For me it’s always been Olu/Alt or Seppuku party.
I have begun my preparations.
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I have begun my preparation H.
fyp
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https://x.com/richcimini/status/1760738354197582214?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
I will go out in a blaze of Tostitos
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https://x.com/richcimini/status/1760738354197582214?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
I will go out in a blaze of Tostitos
Good thing we won that useless week 18 game
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*weeps*
Joe Alt was too beautiful to be a Jet anyways
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My official draft stance is Seppukku party if we don’t get Joe Alt or the Penn St tackle
I will not be taking any questions at this time
My revised official draft stance is best OL available.
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My revised official draft stance is best OL available.
If we select Dallas Turner....you should enter a steel cage with Boygreen. 2 men enter, one man leaves.
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If we select Dallas Turner....you should enter a steel cage with Boygreen. 2 men enter, one man leaves.
I would break his tibia with my face
#WarStories
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I would break his tibia with my face
#WarStories
Clearly you haven't seen his board breaking vids. You'll submit in fear.
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The fake BoyGreen account is incredible
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The fake BoyGreen account is incredible
Link?
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Link?
https://x.com/boygreen24/status/1768824730180604412?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
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https://x.com/boygreen24/status/1768824730180604412?s=46&t=5ospF-7U7rY0VTGIg3PZLg
Ruin my poopchute! Haha.
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The fake BoyGreen account is incredible
Followed
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The fake BoyGreen account is incredible
Lol I found it yesterday, brilliant
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Lol I found it yesterday, brilliant
SUCK MY NUTS
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Looks like the fakeboygreen was a 1 post thing. Could a been a contenda. Zooweeemama
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https://x.com/backaftathis/status/1775631570159702328?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
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OL gang we ride at Dawn
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We could have Chaz Schillens WR1 and I’m still drafting Gord
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We could have Chaz Schillens WR1
6'6 245 WR that runs a 4.16 40?
oh wait, that was Raiderjoe legend Marcel Reece
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https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783084094001172969?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
We should only draft OL until we have a good line
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We could have Chaz Schillens WR1 and I’m still drafting Gord
Chad Schllings*
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https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783084094001172969?s=46&t=e6vm1ybQ4I7pEpNpNEkBkg
We should only draft OL until we have a good line
The fact that QB is so high is somewhat shocking.
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The fact that QB is so high is somewhat shocking.
Somewhat surprisingly we're actually slightly above average there, with Pennington and Sanchez both getting second deals from us and Wilson and Darnold not.
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we're actually slightly above average there
false
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false
Actually you're right, it's false because we are in fact well above average - the stats posted are for drafts 2000-2019 which means Zach is excluded, and thus we have a 66% success rate at drafting first round QBs vs the league average of 46%.
You can indeed prove anything with statistics.
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Somewhat surprisingly we're actually slightly above average there, with Pennington and Sanchez both getting second deals from us and Wilson and Darnold not.
early career pennington was beating early career brady in decisive matchups. i wish the injury bug never hit him.
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Find me a bad team with a good OL
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Find me a bad team with a good OL
Atlanta
Minnesota
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It takes a special level of incompetence to be bad with a good OL.
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It takes a special level of incompetence to be bad with a good OL.
#FireRex
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#FireRex
Rex's teams weren't bad until the OL was.
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We're probably not going to have a shot at Olu and Alt.
Bump
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Love it
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Olu is probably the only lock in the Top 10.
The timing of this is interesting. It's a week before Penn State played Ohio State. Fashanu struggled for the first time in that game and that's really when his stock started to dip a bit.
He is a blue chip left tackle prospect and he essentially fell to us. Douglas absolutely has to add a couple weapons in the next couple rounds though.
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there will likely be other risers we are not expecting that we can jam into the top 10
gut feeling is that both of these guys will be gone by 7, but crazier things have happened
thank you revis
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My official draft stance is Seppukku party if we don’t get Joe Alt or the Penn St tackle
I will not be taking any questions at this time
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