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Title: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Heismanberg on March 24, 2020, 10:30:03 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28946515/sources-panthers-expected-release-cam-newton

Matt Rhule completely mismanaged this situation, in my opinion.  He walked into Charlotte and tried to pee all over everything to mark his territory. 
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: steves850 on March 24, 2020, 10:47:29 AM
Where's his likely landing spot?
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 10:51:00 AM
Where's his likely landing spot?

I can't see him fitting at the Patriots, I can't see him as a backup anywhere, and both the Chargers and the Jags say they have their starters. I think the Chargers is the only one that makes sense as they have some talent and are unlikely to be tanking, Cam would be a huge upgrade on Turdrod no matter what Lynn says.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Heismanberg on March 24, 2020, 11:09:12 AM
Cam is an upgrade over Minshew too
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 11:18:48 AM
Cam is an upgrade over Minshew too

He is, but I don't think the Jags want an upgrade. I think they're legit tanking.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Jumbo on March 24, 2020, 11:33:34 AM
Cam is an upgrade over Minshew too

Who knows what Cam's throwing/running ability is right now? I don't know if he's an upgrade over any current starting QB. Ton of risk with him, and like JE said, no point in signing him for a team like the Jags
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: bojanglesman on March 24, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
Rhule(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200324/2a5209a2dc09055c38d2f82527691949.gif)
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Miamipuck on March 24, 2020, 11:51:19 AM
Rhule(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200324/2a5209a2dc09055c38d2f82527691949.gif)

You like his big rooster you bundle of sticks
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: SixFeetDeep on March 24, 2020, 12:21:55 PM
WAS, JAX, SD, NE, DEN, DET, PITT, MIA could all use a QB despite whatever their current posturing says

Buffalo too
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
WAS, JAX, SD, NE, DEN, DET, PITT, MIA could all use a QB despite whatever their current posturing says

Buffalo too

OK now I really want to see him go to Pittsburgh just so we get to watch what happens with his and Roethlisberger's egos in the same locker room.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 24, 2020, 12:43:56 PM
PJ Walker made him expendable.  #XFL
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: insanity on March 24, 2020, 01:09:31 PM
WAS, JAX, SD, NE, DEN, DET, PITT, MIA could all use a QB despite whatever their current posturing says

Buffalo too
PIT would be fun, but I want none of him in Buffalo.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 24, 2020, 01:14:07 PM
I know there are people who don't like/believe in Cam, but I'd hate to see him join an AFCE team.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 24, 2020, 01:17:50 PM
I know there are people who don't like/believe in Cam, but I'd hate to see him join an AFCE team.

Yeah, I don't need to see him in New England.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 01:21:16 PM
I like Cam a lot as both a player and as an individual, but he's an awkward character and the concern is that his playing style has just given his body too much of a beating.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 24, 2020, 02:43:05 PM
I like Cam a lot as both a player and as an individual, but he's an awkward character and the concern is that his playing style has just given his body too much of a beating.

Cam is "interesting" at times, but he's got talent, and now he's got the motivation. I'd rather he wasn't in our division to see whether he holds up.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 24, 2020, 06:03:31 PM
there is something wrong with your head if you're rich, famous, can afford to dress and look nice in any way you want, and you end up dressing the way he does. you're sick for attention. i won't even get into that ig message he left in fcking heiroglyphics after carolina signed bridgewater.

It's Worse Than Those Losers That Used To Type Like This For No Reason On Facebook Or Any Messaging Platform. fcking tool
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: insanity on March 24, 2020, 06:14:37 PM
there is something wrong with your head if you're rich, famous, can afford to dress and look nice in any way you want, and you end up dressing the way he does. you're sick for attention. i won't even get into that ig message he left in fcking heiroglyphics after carolina signed bridgewater.

It's Worse Than Those Losers That Used To Type Like This For No Reason On Facebook Or Any Messaging Platform. fcking tool
Why is he sick for attention?
Why cant he like fashion?
Why cant he like to express himself through clothes?

Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 24, 2020, 06:24:00 PM
Why is he sick for attention?
Why cant he like fashion?
Why cant he like to express himself through clothes?



i can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic

he doesn't like fashion

he fckin dresses ridiculous
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: reuben on March 24, 2020, 06:35:33 PM
One year with Miami makes a lot of sense.  Prove-it deal to get his value back up while Tua learns. 
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
Sign him and convert him to a wideout. Darnold / Cam wildcat will be unstoppable.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: dcm1602 on March 24, 2020, 09:27:38 PM
One year with Miami makes a lot of sense.  Prove-it deal to get his value back up while Tua learns. 

Miami has Fitzpatrick under contract

Why would they cut him eat dead money, then presumably pay Cam a hefty chunk of change on a one year deal?

This is a team that's undergone a slow painful full rebuild. Paying Cam would not support that
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: dcm1602 on March 24, 2020, 09:31:00 PM
If San Diego doesn't sign cam. I'm thinking maybe Denver.

San Francisco could be a potentially interesting location, though Cam has a fairly decent shot at never starting there. But on the flip side you have a QB who underperformed last year on a SB contender. So at least he has a potential opportunity
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 24, 2020, 11:45:52 PM
Sign him and convert him to a wideout. Darnold / Cam wildcat will be unstoppable.

Tebow 2.0
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 24, 2020, 11:46:28 PM
Tebow 2.0
Yes, Cam Newton is just like Tim Tebow.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 25, 2020, 12:01:15 AM
Yes, Cam Newton is just like Tim Tebow.

I often confuse one for the other.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Miamipuck on March 25, 2020, 12:11:47 AM
I often confuse one for the other.

They both played at U of F very easy to confuse.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: IATA on March 25, 2020, 03:45:15 PM
kaep is better than newton

fite me
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Heismanberg on March 25, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
kaep is better than newton

fite me

false
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Coach K on March 26, 2020, 09:18:07 AM
kaep is better than newton

fite me

Lol no
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 26, 2020, 10:56:04 AM
Lol no

Yeah, no.

Kaep, really? What year is this?
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Johnny English on March 26, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
I think there's a reasonable argument over prime Kaep vs prime Cam, although I'm probably still erring on the side of Cam. As they are today... not much of a discussion.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Jumbo on March 26, 2020, 11:18:53 AM
I think there's a reasonable argument over prime Kaep vs prime Cam, although I'm probably still erring on the side of Cam. As they are today... not much of a discussion.

Prime Cam won MVP throwing to Ted Ginn, Philly Brown, and the corpse of JCotch. He threw for 35 TD. Kaep only threw over 20 TD in a season one time. Not even a comparison.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 26, 2020, 03:28:35 PM
Prime Cam won MVP throwing to Ted Ginn, Philly Brown, and the corpse of JCotch. He threw for 35 TD. Kaep only threw over 20 TD in a season one time. Not even a comparison.

Plus Kaep hasn't played. Assuming he'd even want to play and blow up his whole martyr gig, when was the last time he was even on a team or in a game? He was decent in 2012, so was RG3.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 26, 2020, 03:33:04 PM
Plus Kaep hasn't played. Assuming he'd even want to play and blow up his whole martyr gig, when was the last time he was even on a team or in a game? He was decent in 2012, so was RG3.

This is a bad take.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 26, 2020, 03:42:03 PM
This is a bad take.

If you say so. Being an NFL QB looks pretty easy, I'm sure you can jump right in at 30 or whatever after years off and not miss a beat.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 26, 2020, 05:12:57 PM
If you say so. Being an NFL QB looks pretty easy, I'm sure you can jump right in at 30 or whatever after years off and not miss a beat.

I was referring mostly to the martyr comment.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: delavan on March 26, 2020, 07:43:29 PM

Fwiw Cato, there are others (e.g. Stephen A. Smith) who've used that same 'martyr' comment (esp. after that scrubbed workout down in Ga.).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y7fzEHKI9Y
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: d sw0rdz on March 26, 2020, 07:52:59 PM
Fwiw Cato, there are others (e.g. Stephen A. Smith) who've used that same 'martyr' comment (esp. after that scrubbed workout down in Ga.).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y7fzEHKI9Y

c'mon. that 'workout' the nfl invited him to was a complete setup to save face, and they were not earnestly inviting kaep back into the league.

this was a guy who got the nfl to settle in a lawsuit where he alleged they were blacklisting him, and their response several months later was to......invite him to a secret/private workout on a horrible day during the NFL workweek with no external parties or video/pictographic evidence of the event. in other words, a situation where the NFL could again completely control the narrative

that was not an earnest workout invite. and before anybody chimes in about the baltimore situation, i think he and his team fcked up the baltimore situation for sure, that's on him. but specifically with regards to that workout invite from the NFL, it was complete BS
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: CatoTheElder on March 26, 2020, 10:10:38 PM
Fwiw Cato, there are others (e.g. Stephen A. Smith) who've used that same 'martyr' comment (esp. after that scrubbed workout down in Ga.).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y7fzEHKI9Y

I don't know which part of this response I understand less, quoting Stephen A. Smith as a reliable source or the B.S. secret workout as a legit shot.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 27, 2020, 09:07:25 AM
If he wasn't acting as a martyr then we wouldn't even still be discussing him. How many other backups from 5-10 years ago get this kind of attention and Nike deals? Whatever you think of him he'd be a fool to even try now, but he is the same guy who opted out of his SF contract so I guess you never know.
Title: Re: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: delavan on March 27, 2020, 11:27:06 AM
c'mon. that 'workout' the nfl invited him to was a complete setup to save face, and they were not earnestly inviting kaep back into the league.

this was a guy who got the nfl to settle in a lawsuit where he alleged they were blacklisting him, and their response several months later was to......invite him to a secret/private workout on a horrible day during the NFL workweek with no external parties or video/pictographic evidence of the event. in other words, a situation where the NFL could again completely control the narrative

that was not an earnest workout invite. and before anybody chimes in about the baltimore situation, i think he and his team fcked up the baltimore situation for sure, that's on him. but specifically with regards to that workout invite from the NFL, it was complete BS

Fair enough and pardon my naivety but what if he did go in and participated in that workout?  Hypothetically-speaking, what if Kap went in there and passed with flying colors?   Wouldn't that leak out to teams or media sources?  And then afterwards he could go out and host his own Kap-controlled workout with additional 'cred' accrued. 

Kap himself knew that he was not dealing from a position of strength and however unfair that may be, I'd think his desire to get back playing--whatever the cost--would override any 'staged event' concerns, i.e., any visibility (however slight) is better than simply taking one's ball and going home.
Title: Carolina Panthers releasing QB Cam Newton
Post by: Pope on March 27, 2020, 11:38:46 AM
The sooner that people realize Kaep is an attention whore the quicker they can come to the proper conclusions.  Reminds me of Rachel Dolezal or Shaun King