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Title: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 01:43:17 PM
Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31  2m
#Jets have released Antonio Cromartie.

Sorry for the source

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  1m
Jets have informed Antonio Cromartie that he is being released, per source #nyj

Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini  3m
Antonio Cromartie saying his goodbyes on Twitter to the Jets, meaning he probably has been released. He knew this was coming. #Jets

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  5m
It is is confirmed and official. Jets are releasing CB Antonio Cromartie, as he tweeted.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 01:45:49 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if its true.

Although unless his roster bonus date was approaching, it wouldnt make sense for us to cut him so early. Unless we are already set on his replacement (and have a verbal agreement with someone) and just wanted to let Cro out there so he could find a deal of his own or something.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 01:47:26 PM
Yep official

Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini  19s
Antonio Cromartie saying his goodbyes on Twitter to the Jets, meaning he probably has been released. He knew this was coming. #Jets

ANTONIO CROMARTIE ‏@CRO31  7m
I would like 2 thank the Jets organization so much with helpin me grow as leader and a player. S/O 2 my teammates I wish u guys the best.

ANTONIO CROMARTIE ‏@CRO31  5m
I would also like to give a big up to The Jets Fan base. Thank you for all the support thru my 4 yr career with you. Thank you again.

ANTONIO CROMARTIE ‏@CRO31  40s
It's time for a new chapter in my life and now it's time to let my lord and savior lead my steps every step of the way.
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Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 01:48:01 PM
I thought his roster bonus was due on 3/13, so just a couple days.

My guess (based on rumors) is that we go after Verner, if we get him, Cro is moving on, if not, we try and bring Cro back on the cheap.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 09, 2014, 01:48:04 PM
Wow, he makes it sound like there's no chance he comes back.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 01:50:00 PM
Wow, he makes it sound like there's no chance he comes back.

No idea, but its quite likely he is just sad now, and if things break right, he might be back. But I find it hard to believe Idzik told him we are cutting you and you are our top priority once the market opens up.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 01:50:44 PM
Wow, he makes it sound like there's no chance he comes back.

Thats what I was thinking. Which makes me believe even more that were going after Verner.

Im hoping that Verner just REALLY wants to play for Rex, knowing what that guy does with corners.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if its true.

Although unless his roster bonus date was approaching, it wouldnt make sense for us to cut him so early. Unless we are already set on his replacement (and have a verbal agreement with someone) and just wanted to let Cro out there so he could find a deal of his own or something.

Please let it be Alterraun Verner.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Laxin on March 09, 2014, 01:53:15 PM
Thats what I was thinking. Which makes me believe even more that were going after Verner.

Im hoping that Verner just REALLY wants to play for Rex, knowing what that guy does with corners.

Walter Thurmond is an option also, he would come significantly cheaper.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
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Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  54s
Source: Jets could still bring back Cromartie at a cheaper rate. However, the feeling is #NYJ is targeting another CB in free agency.

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Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  2m
Cromartie was scheduled to earn a $5million roster bonus shortly after start of new league year. Had a $14.98M cap charge for 2014z
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Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini  34s
The Jets now in the cornerback market. Alterraun Verner a possibility as team explores the market. They need a starter. Wilson not answer.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Please let it be Alterraun Verner.

Verner was the rumor. Would be beastly having him opposite Milliner next year, especially if Milliner steps up and plays like he did the last month of the year. especially if we add a safety like Ward to play behind them...
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 01:59:03 PM
Verner was the rumor. Would be beastly having him opposite Milliner next year, especially if Milliner steps up and plays like he did the last month of the year. especially if we add a safety like Byrd to play behind them...

Fixed it for you!
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 01:59:09 PM
Would be kinda funny if Tampa ends up signing Cromartie to play opposite Revis
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 09, 2014, 01:59:13 PM

No idea, but its quite likely he is just sad now, and if things break right, he might be back. But I find it hard to believe Idzik told him we are cutting you and you are our top priority once the market opens up.

Yeah.  If he was our first choice, we'd have heard more about restructure attempts.
Title: Re: Rumor: Antonio Cromartie Released!
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
Sounds like Cro really wants to come back
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acromartie1
2 minutes ago
Saying farewell to a great organization and fan base. I wish nothing but the best. This team is headed into the right direction. This is the hardest part of the business because of the relationship u. God Bless

(along with a picture of himself in a jets uniform)

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Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz  8m
Source says it's possible Cromartie will be brought back at a lower price, but unlikely. Sounds like the Jets are moving on. #nyj

I think Cro is just upset because he doesnt want to go to Cleveland
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Safe to say Cro loves the Jets, and Rex.

Not that it's a surprise, you see quite a bit of Jets/Rex love from players when they leave here recently. Always a good sign.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
New York Jets ‏@nyjets  2m
Rex: “Cro is one of the finest athletes I’ve ever coached. He was willing to contribute wherever the team needed him to win games…”

New York Jets ‏@nyjets  2m
Rex continued: “…He has a passion and enthusiasm for the game and I wish him and his family the best.”
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 02:23:35 PM
Rotoworld Football ‏@Rotoworld_FB  59m
Alterran Verner to sign 'quickly' on Tuesday http://dlvr.it/562bpN

Coincidence?  I hope not.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2014, 02:23:47 PM
The start of a new era.  Exciting times ahead. 
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
New York Jets ‏@nyjets  2m
Rex: “Cro is one of the finest athletes I’ve ever coached. He was willing to contribute wherever the team needed him to win games…”

New York Jets ‏@nyjets  2m
Rex continued: “…He has a passion and enthusiasm for the game and I wish him and his family the best.”

Its starting to sound like a funeral.

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 09, 2014, 02:49:49 PM
Rotoworld Football ‏@Rotoworld_FB  59m
Alterran Verner to sign 'quickly' on Tuesday http://dlvr.it/562bpN

Coincidence?  I hope not.

I like how when you follow that link Verner's blurb is right above Cro's. It seems almost as if the stars are aligning.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 02:53:37 PM
Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31  3m
Name to keep an eye on: Captain Munnerlyn.

Completely forgot about him.  Perhaps a cheaper option with minimal fall off. 
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 02:55:15 PM
Excited that we are likely to be in the Verner sweepstakes. It certainly sounds like Cro was informed we have his replacement in the bag, which indicates we could be the team with a deal in place for Verner. It would also explain why we cut Cro today, yet still have Holmes and Sanchez under contract.

Hopefully we don't stop there and go get ourselves a ballhawking safety.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31  3m
Name to keep an eye on: Captain Munnerlyn.

Completely forgot about him.  Perhaps a cheaper option with minimal fall off. 

I almost forgot about Steiny "news"
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
I almost forgot about Steiny "news"

Don't care about who it was, Munnerlyn isn't a horrible option, and Steiny was the one to break the Cromartie release.  He may be onto something, or he maybe speculating.  Either way, if it isn't Verner, Munnerlyn would be in a short list for 2nd.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: insanity on March 09, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
Also keep an eye on Cortland Finnegan.

He's tenacity and passion for the game is something Rex loves.  He's coming off an injury and could come cheap
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
Also keep an eye on Cortland Finnegan.

He's tenacity and passion for the game is something Rex loves.  He's coming off an injury and could come cheap

Id much rather us bring back Cromartie than bring in Finnegan.

Theres literally no reason to sign him over Cro at all.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Also keep an eye on Cortland Finnegan.

He's tenacity and passion for the game is something Rex loves.  He's coming off an injury and could come cheap

God I hope note, Finnegan is older, and has always been a giant dick, multiple times voted most dirty defensive back in the league. He is a colossal douche, lets just let him rot elsewhere.

Verner/Munnerlyn/Thurmond III please
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 03:03:28 PM
God I hope note, Finnegan is older, and has always been a giant dick, multiple times voted most dirty defensive back in the league. He is a colossal douche, lets just let him rot elsewhere.

Verner/Munnerlyn/Thurmond III please

If I was forced to bet on who it would be, I would have to say Thurmond simply for the connection, but hope not.  Nothing against him, just limited experience on the outside. 
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 03:05:16 PM
If I was forced to bet on who it would be, I would have to say Thurmond simply for the connection, but hope not.  Nothing against him, just limited experience on the outside. 

Munnerlyn played inside on nickel packages too. i wouldnt be a fan of him either.

Pretty much either Verner or go back cheap to Cro
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: MBGreen on March 09, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
thank you for your contributions, Cro.  Good look in your future endeavors.

Abyzmul is excite.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
Abyzmul is excite.

"His technique on Twitter is horrible.  I have screenshots!"
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Coach K on March 09, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
We all saw it coming. I think the surprise is it seems like the option to return is bring ruled out.

If we can't get Verner everything else will be a lateral move to save money.

The FA CB.list is underwhelming minus a couple names
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Coach K on March 09, 2014, 03:24:27 PM
Searching for rumors resulted in the great auto corrects for his first name


Algerian and alteration

All terrain
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Badger on March 09, 2014, 03:25:57 PM
Searching for rumors resulted in the great auto corrects for his first name


Algerian and alteration

All terrain

All Terrain Vernicle
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 09, 2014, 03:27:52 PM
His name is actually a misspelling of Alderaan...
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/09/jets-are-keeping-door-open-for-cromartie-for-now/

Some think that we have a new corner locked up already, but it can't be announced 'til 4PM on Tuesday.

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 09, 2014, 04:31:27 PM
I just want to say that Cromartie was an entirely frustrating player to watch in the respect that as an athlete, I don't think there was a better one on the Jets these last 4 years. It just didn't translate sometimes as far as jamming on the line, technique etc. However, he really changed and became a better player etc when Revis got hurt, he was always willing to return kicks, play WR to win games. As you can see from twitter he became classy, good luck to him. For 2 years he was apart of the best corner tandem I have ever seen on the Jets and maybe my time watching football.

I hope the Jets have Verner in their cross hairs.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 09, 2014, 04:38:04 PM
I just want to say that Cromartie was an entirely frustrating player to watch in the respect that as an athlete, I don't think there was a better one on the Jets these last 4 years. It just didn't translate sometimes as far as jamming in the line, technique etc. However, he really changed and became a better player etc when Revis got hurt, he was always willing to return kicks, play WR to win games. As you can see from twitter he became classy, good luck to him. For 2 years he was a part of the best corner tandem I have ever seen on the Jets and maybe my time watching football.

I hope the Jets have Verner in their cross hairs.


Sorry I am at the hospital and the server will not let me edit the word predictor errors.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Laxin on March 09, 2014, 04:39:14 PM
Assuming we are in the Verner "race", what price would you guys be happy with?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Badger on March 09, 2014, 04:41:49 PM
Assuming we are in the Verner "race", what price would you guys be happy with?

Unpaid internship.

But realistically, we can't expect a bargain, especially after the contract Shields got. I'd be "happy" with $12M/year*. Thankfully Milliner will be on his rookie contract for a while.

*edited
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 09, 2014, 04:43:28 PM

Unpaid internship.

But realistically, we can't expect a bargain, especially after the contract Shields got. I'd be "happy" with $10-11M/year. Thankfully Milliner will be on his rookie contract for a while.

Ten a year is probably a bargain after what Shields got
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 09, 2014, 04:50:58 PM
Yeah ten a year will be a bargain. I wonder if Idzik has Rex doing the full court press as far as recruiting like Tannenbaum did.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 05:13:03 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/09/jets-are-keeping-door-open-for-cromartie-for-now/

Some think that we have a new corner locked up already, but it can't be announced 'til 4PM on Tuesday.



Wait I thought FA opened on tuesday 3/11? I thought close of business for official NFL filings was at 4pm? So do things officially kick off on Wednesday then?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 09, 2014, 05:15:14 PM
Wait I thought FA opened on tuesday 3/11? I thought close of business for official NFL filings was at 4pm? So do things officially kick off on Wednesday then?

wut

The Jets supposedly have a deal in place with a corner, but it can't be officially announced until 4PM on Tuesday (March 11th). 

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: hawk on March 09, 2014, 05:19:41 PM
Wait I thought FA opened on tuesday 3/11? I thought close of business for official NFL filings was at 4pm? So do things officially kick off on Wednesday then?

The new league year starts Tuesday at 4pm.  Tuesday is probably the last day of the previous league year, and since close of business is 4pm they can announce anything they want.  Paperwork wouldn't be filed until Wednesday. 
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
The new league year starts Tuesday at 4pm.  Tuesday is probably the last day of the previous league year, and since close of business is 4pm they can announce anything they want.  Paperwork wouldn't be filed until Wednesday. 

Ok that answers my question. I now understand. So officially everything starts on Wednesday, but once the old league year officially closes (4 pm on 3/11) all hell can break loose. Got it.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 09, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
I'm going to miss Cro.  He may have been inconsistent at times, but he is easily one of the best 5 corners we have ever had.

Perhaps (though I find it doubtful) he wasn't going to budge on his contract.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Libero_2 on March 09, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
I'm going to miss Cro.  He may have been inconsistent at times, but he is easily one of the best 5 corners we have ever had.

Perhaps (though I find it doubtful) he wasn't going to budge on his contract.

He is certainly in my top 5 favorite DB's since I started watching the Jets in the mid-90's.

No order:

Victor Green
Aaron Glenn
Darrelle Revis
Antonio Cromartie

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: ons on March 09, 2014, 06:57:37 PM
Cornerback is the most stacked position on the free agent market, I don't think we can make any assumptions about Verner. Lots of options.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Tommy on March 09, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
I liked Cro. Going to miss that bastard.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: JFIF on March 09, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
I liked Cro. Going to miss his bastards.

Saved you the trouble of the edit
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: MexJetinBcn on March 09, 2014, 07:25:42 PM
Saved you the trouble of the edit

If it were possible to rep you, you would have earned it, sir.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: MBGreen on March 09, 2014, 07:34:50 PM
http://lockerdome.com/fauxjohnmadden/6169893797101633/6425931560536594 (http://lockerdome.com/fauxjohnmadden/6169893797101633/6425931560536594)
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 10, 2014, 10:50:11 AM
Possible they will bring him back at a lower number, have to see who gets what. We need corners.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 10, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
Possible they will bring him back at a lower number, have to see who gets what. We need corners.

He's the fallback option if we fail to bring in someone younger/better (i.e. Verner).
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 10, 2014, 12:30:05 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that he's gone. Especially since for all the "Jets are leaving possibility of a return on the table" it seems it's over. Rex basically gave him a eulogy, so I doubt he returns.

I'm all for upgrading the position, as I am with any position, but Cro is one of the few players I actually liked above the uniform colors. Like Aaron Glenn, Curtis Martin, or Wayne Chrebet.

I'd love to see the team sign a big time corner and then re-sign Cromartie with the intention of having him back up Milliner and become our return man. That's obviously conditional on his hip health, but that would be ideal to me.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 10, 2014, 02:46:43 PM
Hmm... From a Cimini article

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Hampered by a strained hip flexor, Cromartie struggled last season. After two months of rest, he claimed he is healthy, predicting, "You're going to see the Antonio Cromartie of old" in 2014. He wants to play eight more years, five at corner, three at safety.


Id be absolutely freaking ecstatic if we brought Cromartie back to play free safety at a bargain price.

Theres absolutely zero indication thats the plan, but considering that Cro has stated hes interested in playing safety down the road. i think it would be a helluva idea. And his tackling has improved exponentially since that famous playoff game in SD. Although he would be more of a budget ballhawking safety at this point 

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 10, 2014, 02:54:52 PM
I saw this morning that Cromartie, in 8 seasons, has missed a single game. And that game was when Rex sat his best players on purpose.

In an era of the prima donna receiver/corner, Cromartie toughed out every injury. Was that best for the team? I don't know, but I sure as hell respect a guy who goes out and gives 100% of whatever is in his tank.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 10, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
I saw this morning that Cromartie, in 8 seasons, has missed a single game. And that game was when Rex sat his best players on purpose.

In an era of the prima donna receiver/corner, Cromartie toughed out every injury. Was that best for the team? I don't know, but I sure as hell respect a guy who goes out and gives 100% of whatever is in his tank.

Guys one of the great Jet players of this generation.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: ScotlandJet on March 10, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
I saw this morning that Cromartie, in 8 seasons, has missed a single game. And that game was when Rex sat his best players on purpose.

In an era of the prima donna receiver/corner, Cromartie toughed out every injury. Was that best for the team? I don't know, but I sure as hell respect a guy who goes out and gives 100% of whatever is in his tank.

I applaud you sir this is great point. I will always remember Cro as a fine corner and as the anti-Holmes of Rex's early teams.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 10, 2014, 03:16:45 PM
I saw this morning that Cromartie, in 8 seasons, has missed a single game. And that game was when Rex sat his best players on purpose.

In an era of the prima donna receiver/corner, Cromartie toughed out every injury. Was that best for the team? I don't know, but I sure as hell respect a guy who goes out and gives 100% of whatever is in his tank.

I think he played hurt most of this past year, which may have hurt the team but you can't fault a guy for going out there and giving it a shot if he thinks he can. Not sure who else we had that was going to play any better and ultimately that's on the coaching staff, not him.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 10, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
I think he played hurt most of this past year, which may have hurt the team but you can't fault a guy for going out there and giving it a shot if he thinks he can. Not sure who else we had that was going to play any better and ultimately that's on the coaching staff, not him.

Its the coaching staffs fault that our #2 corner wasnt better than our #1 corner ?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Andrew Ryan on March 10, 2014, 03:23:19 PM
Its the coaching staffs fault that our #2 corner wasnt better than our #1 corner ?

It's on the coaching staff for allowing him to play...
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: MexJetinBcn on March 10, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
It's on the coaching staff for allowing him to play...

An injured Cromartie was better than any of the options we had during the season except for the last 4 games in which Milliner came into its own. And even then, he was miles better than Wilson on the outside or the unnamed bunch that came after him. Blaming the coaching staff or Cromartie himself is just absurd.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 10, 2014, 04:30:02 PM
An injured Cromartie was better than any of the options we had during the season except for the last 4 games in which Milliner came into its own. And even then, he was miles better than Wilson on the outside or the unnamed bunch that came after him. Blaming the coaching staff or Cromartie himself is just absurd.

Exactly my point, which is why he was out there. No denying he was playing hurt, but what were the other options? He said he could play, the coaches didn't have anyone better, so he played. Doesn't change the fact that he was diminished by playing hurt, that's football.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 11, 2014, 01:23:26 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/print?id=36314 (http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/print?id=36314)


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Cromartie: Jets did not try to rework deal
 

  By Rich Cimini

  From Antonio Cromartie (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9605/antonio-cromartie)'s perspective, the surprise wasn't that he was released Sunday by the New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets); it's that he never got a chance to talk to the team about renegotiating his bloated contract.
 
Cromartie, a guest Monday on ESPN New York 98.7 FM's Stephen A. Smith & Ryan Ruocco, confirmed that the team wasn't interested in finding a way to pare down his $14.98 million cap charge. Basically, it was a cold cut. Thanks for the memories; you're fired.
 
 
  "I just thought, for us, me and my agent would get an opportunity to come in and either talk about an extension to get the cap number down or try to restructure," the veteran cornerback said. "But, right now, we didn't hear anything from them."
 
The most realistic option was a straight pay cut. He was entering the final year of his contract, due to make $9.5 million in salary and bonuses, including a $5 million roster bonus this week. It made no sense for the Jets to extend the deal -- not for a soon-to-be 30-year-old corner with a bum hip -- unless it was just a window-dressing extension for cap purposes. But they never got around to talking numbers.
 
Cromartie said he would like to finish his career with the Jets and didn't rule out the possibility of re-signing for less money.
 
"Just talking with the guys [Sunday], the door is still open and that's how I look at it," he said, adding, "I'm going to test the market to see where my numbers are."
 
Hampered by a strained hip flexor, Cromartie struggled last season. After two months of rest, he claimed he is healthy, predicting, "You're going to see the Antonio Cromartie of old" in 2014. He wants to play eight more years, five at corner, three at safety.
 
Cromartie took the high road, refusing to bash the Jets. Why bite the hand he hopes will feed him again? He praised coach Rex Ryan and the entire roster, saving his most effusive comments for safety Antonio Allen (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15061/antonio-allen). He said Allen has "freakish" athletic ability and, if he becomes a consistent player, could be "the next Ed Reed (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3552/ed-reed)." Allen is an ascending player, no doubt, but that's way over the top.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 11, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
I know this is a pipe dream, but I'd love to see the Jets get one elite corner in FA (or via trade for Revis-but I won't hold my breath) and re-sign Cromartie to play safety now, alongside Allen.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 11, 2014, 01:52:07 PM
I know this is a pipe dream, but I'd love to see the Jets get one elite corner in FA (or via trade for Revis-but I won't hold my breath) and re-sign Cromartie to play safety now, alongside Allen.

I loved his quote that he wanted to play corner for 5 more years and safety for 3.  He's going to find the move coming a lot sooner than that, but he's not going to be one of those guys who holds on to the corner position and refuses to switch.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 11, 2014, 01:57:45 PM
I loved his quote that he wanted to play corner for 5 more years and safety for 3.  He's going to find the move coming a lot sooner than that, but he's not going to be one of those guys who holds on to the corner position and refuses to switch.

One of the reasons I've always loved Cromartie is he always seems willing to do whatever he is asked to do. He goes above and beyond to benefit the team. He's risked his health offering to return kicks. He's willing to move his position when he can't play corner. He's been willing to play receiver. He took over leadership of the defense when Revis went down.

It really bothers me that the organization didn't even sit down with him to discuss, at the very least, a paycut.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 11, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
One of the reasons I've always loved Cromartie is he always seems willing to do whatever he is asked to do. He goes above and beyond to benefit the team. He's risked his health offering to return kicks. He's willing to move his position when he can't play corner. He's been willing to play receiver. He took over leadership of the defense when Revis went down.

It really bothers me that the organization didn't even sit down with him to discuss, at the very least, a paycut.

i guess they didnt sit down with him to discuss the paycut, because they simply dont think the talents there.

Theyre confident that Cro couldnt be a #1 right now, and Milliner isnt ready for it yet. So even if Cro was willing to come back for the vet minimum, they just didnt believe he was good enough to go toe to toe with the best receivers.

Sucks, but it is what it is. Cros a guy who is physically elite, but his skills didnt match up. As they all diminish, he becomes a greater liability. And now that hes had some health issues and is hitting 30, issues are around
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Tommy on March 12, 2014, 01:57:45 AM
Do you think the Pats will go after Cromartie?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 12, 2014, 07:36:55 AM
Didn't he call Tom Brady an poopchute?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: JFIF on March 12, 2014, 07:44:57 AM
One of the reasons I've always loved Cromartie is he always seems willing to do whatever he is asked to do. He goes above and beyond to benefit the team. He's risked his health offering to return kicks. He's willing to move his position when he can't play corner. He's been willing to play receiver. He took over leadership of the defense when Revis went down.

It really bothers me that the organization didn't even sit down with him to discuss, at the very least, a paycut.

I really liked Cro and he really matured as a person, player and a leader since he arrived.

but his skills are obviously in decline and it's not unexpected. The team wants to go younger across the board so keeping Cromartie only makes sense if it's a last resort. Which in this case, we have the cap room to sign a younger, ascending player.

Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: ons on March 12, 2014, 07:49:16 AM
Didn't he call Tom Brady an poopchute?

Both he and Revis have talked excrement about the Patriots/Brady/Belichick explicitly with the media. I think I remember classless and disrespectful being thrown around a fair amount.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 12, 2014, 09:30:13 AM
Both he and Revis have talked excrement about the Patriots/Brady/Belichick explicitly with the media. I think I remember classless and disrespectful being thrown around a fair amount.

I remember Belichick knocked Revis too saying we did things with our safeties to help him or something and that he maybe wasn't that good
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 12, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
Imagine if we could get Revis AND Cromartie back?  Would you do it if their combined salary was $16M per year?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 12, 2014, 10:36:30 AM
Imagine if we could get Revis AND Cromartie back?  Would you do it if their combined salary was $16M per year?

A little too expensive.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: MexJetinBcn on March 12, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
Imagine if we could get Revis AND Cromartie back?  Would you do it if their combined salary was $16M per year?

And we would be hampering the development of our very promising 2nd year CB. We need one of the two (or Rodgers-Cromartie, whatever), not both
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 12, 2014, 10:38:47 AM
A little too expensive.

Revis isn't taking less than 10, and Cro is still worth 6.  We could frontload their contracts seeing as we have money to burn this year.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 12, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
Revis isn't taking less than 10, and Cro is still worth 6.  We could frontload their contracts seeing as we have money to burn this year.

I thought you meant something like 12M/Revis and 4M/Cro.

I don't think Cro is going to get 6M per.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 12, 2014, 10:40:30 AM
And we would be hampering the development of our very promising 2nd year CB. We need one of the two (or Rodgers-Cromartie, whatever), not both

I don't see how we would be hampering him at all.  If anything, Wilson would see less snaps.  No reason Cro couldn't play some FS as well.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Badger on March 12, 2014, 10:49:11 AM
Imagine if we could get Revis AND Cromartie back?  Would you do it if their combined salary was $16M per year?

I can't see Revis taking less than $13M (maaaybe $12M) and Cromartie is still on the books for ~$5M in dead money so even if we brought him back at the minimum (unlikely) we couldn't have both for $16M.

If it was actually possible? Sure.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 12, 2014, 10:51:19 AM
I don't see how we need both unless they don't think Milliner can play, which I doubt.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 12, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
I've already said elsewhere my ideal would be Revis opposite Milliner and Cromartie with Allen at the safety position, so my answer is an emphatic Yes!
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 12, 2014, 11:00:18 AM
I don't see how we would be hampering him at all.  If anything, Wilson would see less snaps.  No reason Cro couldn't play some FS as well.

Bringing back Cro AND Revis makes zero sense unless Cro is moving to safety.

Because we'd either freak Milliner by putting him in the slot,  or put Cro in the slot which makes zero sense.

Cro is the man, but it just doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: klaximilian on March 12, 2014, 11:01:07 AM
I've already said elsewhere my ideal would be Revis opposite Milliner and Cromartie with Allen at the safety position, so my answer is an emphatic Yes!

Plus Wilson in the slot.


Droooooll.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: AlioTheFool on March 12, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
Plus Wilson in the slot.

Droooooll.

Along with the line we have. Wow.

If they also somehow added a good pass-rushing LB (or Coples develops into a beast) that defense would be Super Bowl worthy immediately.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 12, 2014, 01:23:09 PM
I can't see Revis taking less than $13M (maaaybe $12M) and Cromartie is still on the books for ~$5M in dead money so even if we brought him back at the minimum (unlikely) we couldn't have both for $16M.

If it was actually possible? Sure.

Revis isn't getting 13M after Verner signed for 7M.  Dead money is dead money.  It should not factor into the equation in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 12, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
Revis isn't getting 13M after Verner signed for 7M.  Dead money is dead money.  It should not factor into the equation in my opinion.

Alterraun Verner is a second-to-third tier cornerback in the NFL. 

Talib is getting close to $10M.  Revis is still arguably the best corner in the NFL.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Fenwyr on March 12, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
I've already said elsewhere my ideal would be Revis opposite Milliner and Cromartie with Allen at the safety position, so my answer is an emphatic Yes!

Yeah, thats my wet dream with this DL.  It world forgo the need for a true edge rusher because we would compensate with coverage sacks.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 12, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
Revis isn't getting 13M after Verner signed for 7M.  Dead money is dead money.  It should not factor into the equation in my opinion.

Lol revis isn't going to use Verner, he is going to point out Davis and his 9+ mill a year deal or Talib @ 10+. "If Davis is 9 and talib 10 then certainly I am worth a lot more"
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Badger on March 12, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
Revis isn't getting 13M after Verner signed for 7M.  Dead money is dead money.  It should not factor into the equation in my opinion.

Lowest amount I could possibly imagine him taking is $11M.

Edit: I'm having trouble believing this. Probably a floor of $12M.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Johnny English on March 12, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
I think he's going to get $14M with a fat guarantee from someone. Talib and Davis have set his market.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: IATA on March 12, 2014, 01:28:10 PM
i would be open to that kind of deal...
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 12, 2014, 01:31:02 PM
We have the cap space and Revis loves Rex. If we're at least not major players in this something is wrong.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Miamipuck on March 12, 2014, 01:39:14 PM
We have the cap space and Revis loves Rex. If we're at least not major players in this something is wrong.

Two words:

Woody Johnson
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: bojanglesman on March 12, 2014, 01:48:49 PM
Two words:

Woody Johnson
  I agree.  I just can't see Woody signing onto this again.  I'd love to be wrong though.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Johnny English on March 12, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
Woody's a fan, surely he can see the difference this would make to the team and the fans? This one move on its own would have win free agency for every fan.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Heismanberg on March 12, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
Woody's a fan, surely he can see the difference this would make to the team and the fans? This one move on its own would have win free agency for every fan.

Bringing back Revis would sell tickets, papers, posters, jerseys, magnets, everything...
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: JFIF on March 12, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
I don't think Woody is James Dolan.

He wouldn't hold a grudge when it would beneficial to the team's success
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Italian Seafood on March 12, 2014, 02:03:12 PM
Bringing back Revis would sell tickets, papers, posters, jerseys, magnets, everything...

I don't think Woody is James Dolan.

He wouldn't hold a grudge when it would beneficial to the team's success

Agree with both. He's a businessman and he wants to win, I don't think it is anything they can't all put behind them.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Coach K on March 12, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Watch this go out the window so him and Geiger can eat clam chowder in NE lady and the tramp style.



Nothing would Make me happier than getting Richardson for a 1 yr rental only to get Revis at a reduced rate lol
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Badger on March 12, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
Watch this go out the window so him and Geiger can eat clam chowder last ND the tramp style.

Bro.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Coach K on March 12, 2014, 02:06:38 PM
Bro.

Let's be real it makes as much sense as him coming back here
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Johnny English on March 12, 2014, 02:07:49 PM
Let's be real it makes as much sense as him coming back here

I don't think that was his point.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Coach K on March 12, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
I don't think that was his point.

Yeah yeah typos it's become the norm now IM past the point of caring lol
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: FLORIDAJET on March 16, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
Need to break the bank to get cromartie back. He can make the difference. His speed is still on another level

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Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: insanity on March 16, 2014, 01:45:08 PM
Need to break the bank to get cromartie back. He can make the difference. His speed is still on another level

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Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: klaximilian on March 16, 2014, 01:47:47 PM
Need to break the bank to get cromartie back. He can make the difference. His speed is still on another level

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Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Tommy on March 16, 2014, 07:01:44 PM
I think it's reasonable to assume that milliner will have improved by the time the season starts, so even if we have to sign cromartie back because of lack of options, that should still be a net positive for is right?
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 16, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
I think it's reasonable to assume that milliner will have improved by the time the season starts, so even if we have to sign cromartie back because of lack of options, that should still be a net positive for is right?

If Cro is reasonably healthy and can play at at least 60-70% what he did two years ago. Him back on a cheap 2 year deal wouldn't be bad at all.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Johnny English on March 16, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
I have no objection at all to Cro back on a reasonable deal.
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: Pope on March 16, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Pretty sure he's signing in Arizona
Title: Re: Antonio Cromartie released
Post by: dcm1602 on March 16, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
Pretty sure he's signing in Arizona

If DRC signs here he will be. But it seems like Cro is giving it time to percolate. He loves him some Rex