Jet Offensive
New York Jets Football => ...And The Home Of The Jets => Topic started by: dcm1602 on August 10, 2019, 12:35:38 PM
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Free agent K Blair Walsh worked out for the Jets.
The Jets are reportedly concerned with Chandler Catanzaro’s shaky preseason debut. Walsh was out of the league last year and converted just 72.4 percent of his field goal attempts in 2017. The Jets also visited with free agent Chris Blewitt.
Hopefully more appealing options are on the horizon
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I'll take a kicker named Blewitt over Blair Walsh.
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Should have kept Myers, and not just because he played at the powerhouse that is Marist.
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We seem to get really good kicking out of whatever reject we bring in for a season or two
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Catman retired. Lulz.
https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1160532873407057920?s=19
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Jets signed K Taylor Bertolet.
Not sure if it's a good or bad thing that our kicker situation appears to be the biggest excrement show on this team
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Hahahahaha
We signed someone to compete with him and he retired?
Good riddance
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, at least four teams have injured about trading for Ravens K Kaare Vedvik.
Vedvik looked unstoppable in Thursday's preseason opener, converting all four field goals and both of his extra-point attempts with a long of 55 yards. Per Schefter, two of the teams showing interest hail from the AFC North. While no trade is imminent, Schefter confirmed the kicker will be dealt "at some point this summer." He could be a fit for the Jets, who are looking to fill their kicker need following Chandler Catanzaro's surprise retirement. Currently on a Hall of Fame trajectory, Justin Tucker remains the Ravens' long-term kicker.
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Trade a 6 for him and then trade something else for a god damn corner
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Trade a 6 for him and then trade something else for a god damn corner
Would've been a great time to have Darron Lee as a trade chip right now. I'm sure we'd have an easier time getting a corner for him than we will with Gases 6th round pick
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Vedvik to the Vikings for a 5th. Good that we didn’t got into that for that price.
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he retired so that he wouldn't formally be cut
kickers are pussies
also, why would a writer ever think of putting the words 'kicker' and 'unstoppable' in the same sentence. the fvck does that even mean. 'Vedvik looked unstoppable'
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Jesus freak
Potentially one of the best Jets offenses of my lifetime and were not gonna be able to make extra points or kick off the freaking football
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Jesus freak
Potentially one of the best Jets offenses of my lifetime and were not gonna be able to make extra points or kick off the freaking football
The kickoff was designed. The missed XP was hilarious.
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Right now they are trying to see what coverage looks like. So touchbacks are going to be an accident (I assume)
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Apparently part of why we signed Bertolet is we were able to get him with no money guaranteed, so we can basically cut him at any time that a veteran kicker becomes available
Long as we follow through gotta give it some credit
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Trade three 1st rounders for Greg Zuerlein
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excrement why not pay Jason Myers a little extra.
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excrement why not pay Jason Myers a little extra.
Jason Myers was a shitty kicker for a couple years, who was cut by the Seahawks early in camp last year.
Overpaying for kickers is rarely a smart decision. No team has proven that more recently than the Jets, who picked up Nick Folk, Chandler Catanzaro and Myers off the scrap heap and got great years from all three. It might bite us this year, but I don't regret not paying Myers $5M or whatever he got.
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Catanzaro played for us?
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Catanzaro played for us?
Two years ago
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Apparently one nfl team offered Carli Lloyd a spot on their roster (at least as a gimmick for the 4th preseason game)
I'd probably be more excited about trying her out over some of the trash were getting
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Apparently one nfl team offered Carli Lloyd a spot on their roster (at least as a gimmick for the 4th preseason game)
I'd probably be more excited about trying her out over some of the trash were getting
I'd love to see her get run over on a kickoff when she's the last line of defense.
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I'd love to see her get run over on a kickoff when she's the last line of defense.
I'd be more interested in the excrement the returner catches when she tackles him in the open field.
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I'd love to see her get run over on a kickoff when she's the last line of defense.
I was curious how she'd compare to other kickers, and most of them still have a solid 30 to 40 pounds on her.
I imagine it has to be a concern, unless she's used exclusively for fgs
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tackling isn't bench pressing. it's about leverage more than brute strength.
plus, we're talking about bringing down return men, not jerome bettis. guarantee you this chick could bring down greg dortch
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I've made an enemy of SFD today
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tackling isn't bench pressing. it's about leverage more than brute strength.
plus, we're talking about bringing down return men, not jerome bettis. guarantee you this chick could bring down greg dortch
I imagine taking down a return man is more about momentum
And momentum is mass based, and she's 130 pounds
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tackling isn't bench pressing. it's about leverage more than brute strength.
plus, we're talking about bringing down return men, not jerome bettis. guarantee you this chick could bring down greg dortch
Greg Dortch would eviscerate both of this broads ankles
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Sign this beast
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Jason Myers was a shitty kicker for a couple years, who was cut by the Seahawks early in camp last year.
Overpaying for kickers is rarely a smart decision. No team has proven that more recently than the Jets, who picked up Nick Folk, Chandler Catanzaro and Myers off the scrap heap and got great years from all three. It might bite us this year, but I don't regret not paying Myers $5M or whatever he got.
We could have franchised the guy therefore limiting the term to a one year deal. If he regresses, we cut and move on. Only costs us some cap space in a year where we had a shitload of it.
Mac fucked up not doing so IMHO.
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We could have franchised the guy therefore limiting the term to a one year deal. If he regresses, we cut and move on. Only costs us some cap space in a year where we had a shitload of it.
Mac fucked up not doing so IMHO.
Cap space can carry over. I dont think paying Myers like a top-5 kicker when the Jets had a proven track record of finding kickers off the scrap heap was prudent financially. He was starting to regress at the end of the year, too.
Not having Myers hasnt hurt us at all yet. Odds are we will likely upgrade from Bertolet.
Where we fucked up was by having only one kicker in training camp.
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Where we fucked up was by having only one kicker in training camp.
I don't understand it. I can't remember the last training camp when there wasn't at least a semblance of a kicking competition. And we hand the job to a dude who doesn't want it and got fired mid-season last year.
It seems to me that reliable placekicking has never been as valuable as it is in the 15-yard PAT era, but you wouldn't guess it by our moves this off-season.
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I don't understand it. I can't remember the last training camp when there wasn't at least a semblance of a kicking competition. And we hand the job to a dude who doesn't want it and got fired mid-season last year.
It seems to me that reliable placekicking has never been as valuable as it is in the 15-yard PAT era, but you wouldn't guess it by our moves this off-season.
Maybe we're going to go full Tomlin.
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Maybe we're going to go full Tomlin.
I'm all for it.
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Is this as dire as a kicker situation can get?
Sounds to me like we might want to scoop up whoever the Vikings cut
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Is this as dire as a kicker situation can get?
Sounds to me like we might want to scoop up whoever the Vikings cut
The guy they traded for from the Ravens is 0-3 since his move. Missed a 37 yarder last night.
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Elliott Fry just got cut. It is likely either him or whoever the Browns or Vikings cut.
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Elliott Fry just got cut. It is likely either him or whoever the Browns or Vikings cut.
Bank on Bam Bam Douglas being on it.
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Jets will sign Fry
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Just go for two every time, make it half the time and we're even. #math
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Just go for two every time, make it half the time and we're even. #math
Not sure how serious you are being, but I actually think we should go for 2 a lot. The expected points in an extra point and a 2-point conversion are about equal now after the XP was moved back. If we have a good offense and a. Ad kicker, we should go for 2 more.
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I'll take Cody Parkey.
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Not sure how serious you are being, but I actually think we should go for 2 a lot. The expected points in an extra point and a 2-point conversion are about equal now after the XP was moved back. If we have a good offense and a. Ad kicker, we should go for 2 more.
I was half kidding, not completely. FGs would still be a problem.
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I'll take Cody Parkey.
Is he the guy who killed the Bears' season?
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Is he the guy who killed the Bears' season?
Yup.
He was a 90% kicker under Gase the year before.
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Kickers are like relief pitchers. Outside of the elites, most guys change year by year.
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Yup.
He was a 90% kicker under Gase the year before.
He missed a big kick one time, so people will use that against him.
People seems to forget that Nick Folk and Jason Myers both stunk before coming to the Jets. A change of scenery is sometimes all a kicker needs.
All of these players can kick. Mindset is the biggest thing for them.
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He missed a big kick one time, so people will use that against him.
People seems to forget that Nick Folk and Jason Myers both stunk before coming to the Jets. A change of scenery is sometimes all a kicker needs.
All of these players can kick. Mindset is the biggest thing for them.
Exactly. The Jets have done this for years at kicker and it has never burned us. Paying Myers that much money would have been foolish. But they should have had competition for Catanzaro.
I think we will get Vedvik.
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I think the concerns at kicker have been vastly overstated. We can find someone.
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I think we will get Vedvik.
I'd prefer Fry over Vedvik, but we'll see
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Bertolet was released
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Really nice that the Vikings took the trade so we didn’t have to give up picks and we still end up with the guy.
Here’s hoping he can get back on track with Boyer coaching him up.
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We've had more kickers this summer than New England has had in Belichick's 20 years.
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Proof America hates the #Jets: Kaare Vedvik can’t kick at MetLife tomorrow to prepare for #NYJ opener because the U.S. men’s national soccer team is playing a match against Mexico
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Proof America hates the #Jets: Kaare Vedvik can’t kick at MetLife tomorrow to prepare for #NYJ opener because the U.S. men’s national soccer team is playing a match against Mexico
freak soccer. #BuildTheWall
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Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Proof America hates the #Jets: Kaare Vedvik can’t kick at MetLife tomorrow to prepare for #NYJ opener because the U.S. men’s national soccer team is playing a match against Mexico
I’m sorry so kickers normally go to the stadium the night before a game to kick?
God I hate excrement stirring just to be a dickhole
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I’m sorry so kickers normally go to the stadium the night before a game to kick?
God I hate excrement stirring just to be a dickhole
I mean the dude just got signed by the Jets
Has he ever even been to MetLife stadium
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I’m sorry so kickers normally go to the stadium the night before a game to kick?
God I hate excrement stirring just to be a dickhole
He's never been there and we host a division game in two days. It's called preparation.
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Okay, so he can't practice Saturday?
If this were December and the infamous winds were swirling, I'd give the story a little more credibility, but this is a case of "You had one job" and the dude should be able to kick even without getting in there today.
Of course, this could've been a plant story to cover the team in case he shits the bed on Sunday. "He didn't have time to properly prepare!"
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Okay, so he can't practice Saturday?
If this were December and the infamous winds were swirling, I'd give the story a little more credibility, but this is a case of "You had one job" and the dude should be able to kick even without getting in there today.
Of course, this could've been a plant story to cover the team in case he shits the bed on Sunday. "He didn't have time to properly prepare!"
I think we're reading too much into this. The story is to be read at face value.
Of course, the Jets wanted him to kick at MetLife once before the game. Just like a pro golfer would want to practice on a golf course before playing it in a major. I don't think it's a huge deal that he didn't, but it would be better if he had kicked there once.
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Okay, so he can't practice Saturday?
If this were December and the infamous winds were swirling, I'd give the story a little more credibility, but this is a case of "You had one job" and the dude should be able to kick even without getting in there today.
Of course, this could've been a plant story to cover the team in case he shits the bed on Sunday. "He didn't have time to properly prepare!"
The soccer game is at 830 pm tonight
I don't know freak about what they do to prep a field for a game, but id imagine fixing the grass paint etc is an all day task tomorrow
Of course he will 'be able to kick', but it's also obvious that having time to practice and get used to the stadium itself would be beneficial for any player.
The better question is how much access does a kicker have to an opposing field for road games? Do they typically get in there to do some kicks a day or two before, or is all they get the pregame warm-ups
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He's never been there and we host a division game in two days. It's called preparation.
If that’s the case, the freaking soccer game was on the schedule and when we signed him, we should have taken him directly from the airport to the stadium to kick if we were worried about it.
Sounds like we (as a team) made the choice not to prepare him, if it even matters. And no one can tell me we weren’t planning on claiming a kicker (any kicker) after final cuts, so we clearly had time to plan it. If it mattered we would have done something about it before tomorrow’s soccer game
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Where was he yesterday or the day before? This game didn't suddenly spring up on everyone. He's been with the team for almost a week.
If he didn't have the chance to "properly prepare" it's not the US soccer team's fault. I mostly agree with Smalls, this is mostly a non-story. At worst, like I said, it's a cover-your-derriere story if he kicks it into Gase rather than between the posts.
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Where was he yesterday or the day before? This game didn't suddenly spring up on everyone. He's been with the team for almost a week.
If he didn't have the chance to "properly prepare" it's not the US soccer team's fault. I mostly agree with Smalls, this is mostly a non-story. At worst, like I said, it's a cover-your-derriere story if he kicks it into Gase rather than between the posts.
I imagine yesterday they were prepping the field for the soccer game
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I imagine yesterday they were prepping the field for the soccer game
Were they prepping it on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday as well? And does it take longer to prep it for soccer than for football, since there'll only be a day between the soccer game and the home opener?
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Were they prepping it on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday as well? And does it take longer to prep it for soccer than for football, since there'll only be a day between the soccer game and the home opener?
I'm guessing they remove the posts for a soccer game.
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I'm guessing they remove the posts for a soccer game.
Probably, but that doesn't really change my point. Even if we assume it takes an entire day to remove the goalposts, it still leaves Monday through Wednesday of this week for him to have practiced. Again, it's not like this USMNT game was a last-minute surprise.
I can't believe the season is about to start and we're on here talking about whether our waiver-wire kicker has had enough time to practice doing his job. No one's going to care when Darnold throws 6 TDs and converts all 6 2-pt conversions.
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Probably, but that doesn't really change my point. Even if we assume it takes an entire day to remove the goalposts, it still leaves Monday through Wednesday of this week for him to have practiced. Again, it's not like this USMNT game was a last-minute surprise.
I can't believe the season is about to start and we're on here talking about whether our waiver-wire kicker has had enough time to practice doing his job. No one's going to care when Darnold throws 6 TDs and converts all 6 2-pt conversions.
To be fair Monday was a federal holiday
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It's probably one of those things they thought of but after the fact, but this week it couldn't be done. Not a huge story but a story worth mentioning, especially if he misses one to lose the game.
Better preparation would have been to keep the guy who just made the Pro Bowl when we had all the money we needed.
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Jesus Christ it’s just a goalpost and some distance. He can go practice at East Rutherford High School
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It's probably one of those things they thought of but after the fact, but this week it couldn't be done. Not a huge story but a story worth mentioning, especially if he misses one to lose the game.
Better preparation would have been to keep the guy who just made the Pro Bowl when we had all the money we needed.
To be fair if we lose to the Bills in our own house, the kicker isn't the problem
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To be fair if we lose to the Bills in our own house, the kicker isn't the problem
If this dude comes out and shanks three kicks, I'd say the kicker is the problem.
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We need to start going for 2 everytime
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i fvcking hate kickers, least respectable position in all of sports. fvcking weak minded pussies, all of them
it's a fvcking flat field with turf, it's not a golf course with different crevices and contours and excrement
every fvcking field is just about the same, same as they've been kicking their entire lives, just kick the fvcking ball through
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Go get Cody Parkey, or that soccer chick.
The Jets deserved what happened today in the kicking game. Total disregard for the position this off-season.
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Did we cut this dude yet?
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Did we cut this dude yet?
Seriously did they?
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Jason Myers made all his XP today btw
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Jason Myers made all his XP today btw
KeEpInG hIm WoUlD hAvE bEeN FiNaNcIalLy IrReSpOnSiBlE!!1!1!1!11!
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Have they cut that queynte yet?
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Have they cut that queynte yet?
They signed him to a 5 yr extension
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If we only could have gotten close enough for whatever his name is to blow a potential winning kick, he could have at least gone out with a blaze of glory.
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They signed him to a 5 yr extension
light yourself on fire please
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Keeping Mike Maccagnan after last season was grossly negligent behavior.
I don't blame Douglas like the media seems to want to do. What else was he supposed to do? He tried to address the situation, but this could all have been fine had Macc just re-signed Myers. I wish he could be fired all over again.
"The Jets have done great with scrap heap kickers" became the new "You can find a starting guard in the late rounds." At least that nonsense should stop now.
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"The Jets have done great with scrap heap kickers" became the new "You can find a starting guard in the late rounds." At least that nonsense should stop now.
It's helped in recent years that we're playing out the string by late September and there hasn't been a pressure kick here since 2015. Once we're safely out of the race (in three weeks) whoever we bring in will be fine.
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It's helped in recent years that we're playing out the string by late September and there hasn't been a pressure kick here since 2015. Once we're safely out of the race (in three weeks) whoever we bring in will be fine.
There are a couple of things to keep in mind.
First, all the nonsense about having had success off the scrap heap ignores things like Nick Folk having worked out with someone to specifically address his Dallas problems before winding up here. Jason Myers had previously had a year where he'd kicked 87% on FGs and one where he'd been 90% on XPs. Catanzaro had had a 90% FG year, and a couple of 100% XP years. The Jets may have brought in some discards, but it's not like they've turned 40% guys into 80%-ers overnight.
Second, the rules were specifically changed to make XPs harder. Now every XP attempt is a field goal try. The job is no longer automatic.
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Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
Jason Myers made all three of his extra points yesterday ... for those of you scoring at home.
12:38 PM · Sep 9, 2019
#Marist
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Bring back Folk. How bad can he be?
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There are a couple of things to keep in mind.
First, all the nonsense about having had success off the scrap heap ignores things like Nick Folk having worked out with someone to specifically address his Dallas problems before winding up here. Jason Myers had previously had a year where he'd kicked 87% on FGs and one where he'd been 90% on XPs. Catanzaro had had a 90% FG year, and a couple of 100% XP years. The Jets may have brought in some discards, but it's not like they've turned 40% guys into 80%-ers overnight.
Second, the rules were specifically changed to make XPs harder. Now every XP attempt is a field goal try. The job is no longer automatic.
Wait so in one breath, you say Catanzaro wasnt that bad because he had already had good seasons under his belt. In the next breath, you blame the Jets for having a bad kicker situation, even though Catanzaro was the guy they signed to fill the job?
Also, I dont see how it is nonsense when that literally is how the Jets have treated kicker for years. You can disagree with it, but that is exactly what they have done.
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Bring back Folk. How bad can he be?
He hasn't kicked since 2017. I didn't know that until I went to look at his stats. I don't see why Douglas should'nt give him a call and have him come in for a workout.
Wait so in one breath, you say Catanzaro wasnt that bad because he had already had good seasons under his belt. In the next breath, you blame the Jets for having a bad kicker situation, even though Catanzaro was the guy they signed to fill the job?
Also, I dont see how it is nonsense when that literally is how the Jets have treated kicker for years. You can disagree with it, but that is exactly what they have done.
They had Myers. He was coming off a Pro Bowl season. Maccagnan didn't want to pay him. That's why the Jets have a bad kicking situation today.
I didn't say bringing back Catanzaro was bad. It didn't turn out well, but then again, a couple of missed preseason kicks shouldn't immediately put you on the hot seat to the point that you feel like you need to retire before you even turn 30.
The nonsense is that, again, it's not actually what the Jets have done. They've worked with reclamation projects before now, not guys who've never done anything. And just because you've gotten lucky a few times doesn't mean you're always going to get lucky. Dumpster diving is a poor way of constructing your first-string roster.
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Also Manish is ripping Gase for the kicker situation. Listening to the conference call now, all Manish wanted to do was here Gase blame himself for the kicker situation so Manish could say "Gotcha." Not sure what they expect Gase to say.
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Also Manish is ripping Gase for the kicker situation. Listening to the conference call now, all Manish wanted to do was here Gase blame himself for the kicker situation so Manish could say "Gotcha." Not sure what they expect Gase to say.
I'm not one to defend Gase, but how can anyone blame him for the kicking situation? For all we know, not re-signing Myers may have been a reason Gase used to argue Maccagnan's ineptitude. Apart from the short "interim-GM" stint, he doesn't construct the roster, so in what possible way is he to blame?
Oh yeah. Manish.
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I'd give equal blame to Mac, Gase, and Douglas. (It's possible that Boyer deserves a little as well, but it's also entirely possible that he's been advocating for a better kicker behind closed doors to no avail). There should have been a second kicker in minicamps from the word go; that's on Macc. Gase staged a coup because he wasn't given enough control over the roster (his big issue, as I recall, was that we prioritized signing the two players who actually kept us in the game yesterday, but that's a separate criticism). But he and Doug each had more than enough time and clout to rectify Macc's mistake and both failed to do so.
Everyone should compete for their job in training camp, it's just smart football. The Ravens have the most automatic kicker in the NFL and even they know you bring in another kicker in training camp. (They even scooped up a free 5th round pick by doing so).
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https://twitter.com/kfcbarstool/status/1171387690333417472?s=21
Lol
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#FireBoomer
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Imagine this guy kicks lights out
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I'd give equal blame to Mac, Gase, and Douglas. (It's possible that Boyer deserves a little as well, but it's also entirely possible that he's been advocating for a better kicker behind closed doors to no avail). There should have been a second kicker in minicamps from the word go; that's on Macc. Gase staged a coup because he wasn't given enough control over the roster (his big issue, as I recall, was that we prioritized signing the two players who actually kept us in the game yesterday, but that's a separate criticism). But he and Doug each had more than enough time and clout to rectify Macc's mistake and both failed to do so.
Everyone should compete for their job in training camp, it's just smart football. The Ravens have the most automatic kicker in the NFL and even they know you bring in another kicker in training camp. (They even scooped up a free 5th round pick by doing so).
Wasn't Bertolet in camp with Catanzaro? Once Catanzaro quit, Bertolet took over. There was competition. Who could foresee CC up-and-quitting? And at that point, the talent pool was limited. Yet Douglas originally made a play at Vedvik, and when he shook free the second time, he got him.
I just don't see how Douglas can be blamed for any of this garbage. To a degree, you can blame Gase, but even there it's shaky.
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https://twitter.com/kfcbarstool/status/1171387690333417472?s=21
Lol
Give him a tryout. At this point, turn over every rock until you find someone.
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I would do the kicking but I'm working Monday night and I'd never pass the drug test.
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Jets signed K Sam Ficken.
Ficken will replace meme Kaare Vedvik, who cost the Jets a win in Week 1. A Rams fill-in each of the past two years, Ficken has converted just 3-of-6 career field goal attempts. He will be a bottom-barrel fantasy option as the Jets navigate their brutal early-season schedule.
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Oh good, a 50% FG kicker! That's gonna work out well.
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Oh good, a 50% FG kicker! That's gonna work out well.
Significant improvement over our last kicker me thinks
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Significant improvement over our last kicker me thinks
Better than the 0% guy we just had.
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I would do the kicking but I'm working Monday night and I'd never pass the drug test.
legit Lol
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Should have signed Josh Henshaw
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I'd feel better if we'd just sign some old journeyman kicker everyone knows. At least you'd know he's been successful at some point. I don't care if he can hit a 60 yarder, just reliably hit a 30-40 yarder. Is Morton Andersen still alive? Bet he could hit a 30 yarder blindfolded holding a bourbon glass at 65 years old off the couch
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I'd feel better if we'd just sign some old journeyman kicker everyone knows. At least you'd know he's been successful at some point. I don't care if he can hit a 60 yarder, just reliably hit a 30-40 yarder. Is Morton Andersen still alive? Bet he could hit a 30 yarder blindfolded holding a bourbon glass at 65 years old off the couch
I subscribe to the Joe and Evan podcast to listen occasionally. He was on the show today. I didn't listen, but I guarantee Joe asked him to come out of retirement.
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I subscribe to the Joe and Evan podcast to listen occasionally. He was on the show today. I didn't listen, but I guarantee Joe asked him to come out of retirement.
Anderson seemed like a cool dude. He said he hasn't kicked a football since 2007. Said his planting leg was more important and it's shot, so he couldn't make a long kick. On the flip side he did guarantee he could make an 35 yard extra point.
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I subscribe to the Joe and Evan podcast...
Please tell me it's not $8.95/month.
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Gase on the new kicker. He's actually pretty funny.
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1171798036625940481
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Gase on the new kicker. He's actually pretty funny.
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1171798036625940481
You got to be Ficken kidding me
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Gase on the new kicker. He's actually pretty funny.
https://twitter.com/snyjets/status/1171798036625940481
You need a sense of humor to coach this team. #KeepRex
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Jason Myers is 3-5 with a missed extra point this season.
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Brian Costello
@BrianCoz
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5m
The Jets announce they have released K Brett Maher. Sam Ficken wins the competition. #nyj
#HelloDarknessMyOldFriend
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I can't believe with Gostkowski and Hauschka available....we're "sticken with Ficken" (i feel dirty for typing that).
I'll show myself out
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I can't believe with Gostkowski and Hauschka available....we're "sticken with Ficken" (i feel dirty for typing that).
I'll show myself out
Maybe we'll sign someone else to compete. Probably too late.
Weird excrement like this works out sometimes. Honestly, we could sign the best kicker ever and I would assume our team's foul odor would rub off on him and make him start shanking. Maybe this is the ole' reverse psychology. Sign the worst guy.
Maybe we just let Mann have both roles.
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Maybe we'll sign someone else to compete. Probably too late.
Weird excrement like this works out sometimes. Honestly, we could sign the best kicker ever and I would assume our team's foul odor would rub off on him and make him start shanking. Maybe this is the ole' reverse psychology. Sign the worst guy.
Maybe we just let Mann have both roles.
Ficken was trash last year....but then so was Gase. I guess the team is just being consistent.
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Ficken was trash last year....but then so was Gase. I guess the team is just being consistent.
He hasn’t been horrible in camp, at least not recently. So there’s that.
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He hasn’t been horrible in camp, at least not recently. So there’s that.
I still think there are better options available.
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Kickers are always a crap shoot. These guys that are supposedly good got cut for a reason. No one else has signed them for a reason.
That being said Ficken sucks, but he's our turd now. Sometimes these guys make a turnaround.
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I still think there are better options available.
That wasn’t meant to mean there aren’t.
I really hope Douglas brings in whoever the Titans don’t sign between Gostkowski and Houschka.
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Time to redirect all of my Edwards hate to Ficken
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Gostkowski would be the best option IF he is healthy. A 36 year old kicker coming off a hip injury? Ehhhh.
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freak
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Not like Maher was much better, but it really shouldn’t be this hard to find an upgrade
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PVO: he’s 27 and last year was his first full season kicking
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PVO: he’s 27 and last year was his first full season kicking
Pvo?
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Pvo?
Positive Vibes Only
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Positive Vibes Only
Please vagina only.
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Please vagina only.
WAPVO
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Kickers are always a crap shoot. These guys that are supposedly good got cut for a reason. No one else has signed them for a reason.
That being said Ficken sucks, but he's our turd now. Sometimes these guys make a turnaround.
This
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PVO: he’s 27 and last year was his first full season kicking
What was he doing before that?
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WAPVO
Sbtpvo?
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I remember being excited about Vedvik
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What was he doing before that?
Getting signed, cut, and re-signed by the Rams from 2017-2018 and failing to make the team out of OTAs or training camp for the Jaguars(2016), Chiefs(2017), Seahwaks(2019), and Packers(2019).
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Sam Ficken wasn't even good at Notre Dame.
All of these guys that float around in training camps have monster legs. Kicking is a lot like golf. It's more mental than anything for the guys that have made it this far.
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Sam Ficken wasn't even good at Notre Dame.
All of these guys that float around in training camps have monster legs. Kicking is a lot like golf. It's more mental than anything for the guys that have made it this far.
Exactly. And that's why Jason Myers can be one of the worst kickers in the NFL for years, have one good year with us, and then go right back to being mediocre.
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Getting signed, cut, and re-signed by the Rams from 2017-2018 and failing to make the team out of OTAs or training camp for the Jaguars(2016), Chiefs(2017), Seahwaks(2019), and Packers(2019).
ERRONEOUS! ERRONEOUS ON ALL ACCOUNTS
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i had hopes for vedvik too. i don't think we gave him a fair shot, but i'm not present behind the scenes and i don't know excrement. but it seems like we signed him really late, gave him like 15 minutes of actual practice with us on our field a half hour before the game, he subsequently shanked a couple kicks during the game, and he was released the next day.
ficken is garbage but it seems like we've given him chance after chance. i still find it kind of unbelievable and unwarranted that he got invited to camp after his showing last season
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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32m
In kicker news: The #Titans are giving K Stephen Gostkowski a 1-year deal worth $2.75M with a max value of $3.25M with incentives based on field goal percentage. Solid.
We could have used a real NFL kicker...but nah..let's roll with the bum we got.
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We could have used a real NFL kicker...but nah..let's roll with the bum we got.
The guy they cut is better than Ficken. We should get him.
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Signing Belichick castoffs usually isn't the way to go. Gostkowski is 36 years old, coming off a major hip injury, and he was 11-15 on extra points last year.
I would like to see some more competition brought in for Ficken, and I would have been fine with Gostkowski, but this isn't 2013 Gostkowski anymore.
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Why are we hanging on to Ammendola?
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Why are we hanging on to Ammendola?
He looks better than Ficken by comparison to Joe D?
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Why are we hanging on to Ammendola?
Because we need a solid backup directional punter in case Morstead goes down.
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Because we need a solid backup directional punter in case Morstead goes down.
I do wonder when we get to the point where teams save roster spots by merging the kicker and punter spots into one. Especially a more aggressive coaching staff that is more likely to go for it on 4th downs and pass up some punting/kicking opportunities.
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Obligatory, we should've franchised Jason Myers post except Myers has been lousy this year.
Anyway, whatever happened to Kaare Vedvik?!?
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I do wonder when we get to the point where teams save roster spots by merging the kicker and punter spots into one. Especially a more aggressive coaching staff that is more likely to go for it on 4th downs and pass up some punting/kicking opportunities.
That would mean you can make the backup QB the default holder, and put the fake kick on the table on every play.
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Obligatory, we should've franchised Jason Myers post except Myers has been lousy this year.
Anyway, whatever happened to Kaare Vedvik?!?
Saskatchewan Rough Riders
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I do wonder when we get to the point where teams save roster spots by merging the kicker and punter spots into one. Especially a more aggressive coaching staff that is more likely to go for it on 4th downs and pass up some punting/kicking opportunities.
Not going to happen
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I don't think it would happen anytime soon, and I think you would need to still have a position player you feel comfortable with kicking, but I could see 10-15 years down the line where a team tries it.
15 years ago, no team considered having only 2 QBs on a roster. Now a lot of teams do it.
But as for Ammendola, I don't have much faith in him at all. He does seem to have a big leg, but he doesn't make them.
After the Thursday game, I could see us working out some kickers during the mini-bye.
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After the Thursday game, I could see us working out some kickers during the mini-bye.
Only if he's bad on Thursday night
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If we end up losing a close game because this dude can't hit kicks, that's 100% on JD.
His biggest miss has been kicker.
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Ficken as a Jet
FG%: 76.2
XP%: 85.4
Ammendola as a Jet
FG%: 72.7
XP%: 85.7
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Only if he's bad on Thursday night
I like to think they would work guys out this week if we had a full week to prepare, but on the short week, they'll fine rolling with Ammendola.
He hasn't been atrocious. He's been pretty good on kickoffs. His misses are from 48, 53 and 54. He also missed an extra point (6-7). But I'm surprised I haven't read more about the Jets working out veteran kickers.
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That would mean you can make the backup QB the default holder, and put the fake kick on the table on every play.
Couldn't you do that simply by making the backup QB the holder?
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the Jets should've gone after Josh Lambo...but he signed with the Steelers yesterday.
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His biggest miss has been kicker.
It's not just a miss IMO, it's straight negligence. Two full summers with only one kicker in camp at a time, then this summer he hands the job to some kid named Ammendola over some kid named Naggar halfway through August.
I don't understand it, I really don't. Kicking's never been more important since the PAT change but no GM has given the position less attention than Joe Douglas. Justin friggin' Tucker competes in training camp, ffs.
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1462882443908767745
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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1462882443908767745
To who Connor?
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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1466529370739195905
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My perception of Pineiro is like the opposite of Ammendola. He always seemed accurate, but I never thought he had a big leg.
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My perception of Pineiro is like the opposite of Ammendola. He always seemed accurate, but I never thought he had a big leg.
I'd take that every day. I want the guy that can consistently hit inside 50, I care less that he can hit a 60 yarder.
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https://twitter.com/JeaneCoakley/status/1467235255010881536
Dola cut?
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https://twitter.com/JeaneCoakley/status/1467235255010881536
Dola cut?
Good...he stinks
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https://twitter.com/nyjets/status/1467238519282221058
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Kessman SZN
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Kessman's Twitter profile is just retweeting Pitt hype videos constantly.
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If only Dola could kick the ball straight
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With Ammendola gone, we've now cut our 2 best punters, and we are starting our 4th-best quarterback.
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With Ammendola gone, we've now cut our 2 best punters, and we are starting our 4th-best quarterback.
Took me a while to get that.
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Kessssssman.
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With Ammendola gone, we've now cut our 2 best punters, and we are starting our 4th-best quarterback.
Bring back Ammendola as punter. Move Mann to kicker. Can't be much worse on either front.
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I miss Ficken and I hate that guy
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I miss Ficken and I hate that guy
It's quite impressive how we find excrement kickers, give up on them, and then pivot to someone who's somehow even worse. I can't wait to see who we get to replace Kessman and how they'll find a new level of excrement. Maybe they'll kick off out of bounds at the halfway line.
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There has to be a retread that can just mediocre us through the season. At least someone that won't force you to go for 2.
Sign Josh Lambo or some excrement.
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Bring back Faggat
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Bring back Faggat
Naggar is on the Browns PS
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Bring back Faggat
Naggar is on the Browns PS
LMFAOOOOOOO
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How many teams have a better kicker on their PS than we have on our actual team
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Bring back Sergio Castillo
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Bring back Sergio Castillo
Sorry...we need him for the Grey Cup next week.
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did we cut kessman yet
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1467892634156941321?s=21
Woo
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https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1467892634156941321?s=21
Woo
Can this guy even hit a 45 yarder?
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Can this guy even hit a 45 yarder?
Best case for him is we get shutout and he doesn't have to kick.
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This thread is older than the depression thread.
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Can this guy even hit a 45 yarder?
probably not
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I've said this more than once before, but I don't understand why Lewis Ward at the Redblacks hasn't had any NFL opportunities. The guy's a metronome, he set a pro football record of 69 consecutive made FGs and consistently makes kicks more than 50 yards.
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How many teams have a better kicker on their PS than we have on our actual team
All of them
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Go call Seabass Janikowski and bring him out of retirement...quit freaking around.
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I'll settle for a guy who can make shorter kicks at this point, even if he doesn't have a huge leg. Doesn't seem like a great fit for winter in the northeast, but maybe his leg is stronger than I remember.
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Just make extra points
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Nice having a guy who kicked 82% in the NFL and was 88% in college, compared to the last 2 guys.
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Just make extra points
This is where I'm at now.
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Ammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmendola back on practice squad.
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Ammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmendola back on practice squad.
he's goood to have as a developmental kicker tbh. his leg is legit and if he could actually improve accuracy and grow a pair of balls we'd have a really good one
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he's goood to have as a developmental kicker tbh. his leg is legit and if he could actually improve accuracy and grow a pair of balls we'd have a really good one
Let's cut him again and sign someone else who sucks. That'll get his % up.
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Emergency punter, too!
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Emergency punter, too!
Speaking of emergency punter, after Braden Mann’s return the Falcons signed Thomas Morstead who promptly won the NFC special teams player of the week award while Braden Mann’s average has been 38/39/39 yds. in the 3 games since his return.
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Speaking of emergency punter, after Braden Mann’s return the Falcons signed Thomas Morstead who promptly won the NFC special teams player of the week award while Braden Mann’s average has been 38/39/39 yds. in the 3 games since his return.
We kept the wrong guy
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Jets could cut Zuerlein and Mann tomorrow, and I'd be cool with it.
Mann should be gone, or at least have competition. Zuerlein at least has a decent NFL track record.
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David Wyatt-Hupton
@DWyattHupton
Braden Mann was the 2nd worst punter last weekend in terms of pEPA and he also had the shortest hangtime of any punter in football at 4.04 seconds - That's umm quite bad. That and more stats in today's newsletter. #TakeFlight
https://twitter.com/DWyattHupton/status/1569654164879249408
Meanwhile Morestead is on the Dolphins
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Colts are waiving Blankeship, so I guess there's that as an option.
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Colts are waiving Blankeship, so I guess there's that as an option.
A better option than Legatron. And the rec specs will be more fun, whether he is good or bad.
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Colts are waiving Blankeship, so I guess there's that as an option.
Went unclaimed.
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Mann converts a fake punt and has a great onsides kick.
Geg ties the longest FG in Jets history.
Good day for the #kickersearch