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The Rest Of The Sports World => Designated Hitters Make Baseball Better => Topic started by: MBGreen on January 07, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
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I inadvertently deleted the previous thread.
xo,
MoronButtholeGreen
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Blast. The only proof that I'd actually want to fire a coach if I felt like he was excrement!
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Blast. The only proof that I'd actually want to fire a coach if I felt like he was excrement!
i'm sure there will be plenty more
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Can you delete the games that have been played up to now?
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Can you delete the games that have been played up to now?
I wish
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I feel like the new thread needs a refresh of the news that the third head coach in Nashville Predators history is John Hynes.
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I feel like the new thread needs a refresh of the news that the third head coach in Nashville Predators history is John Hynes.
the #honkytonktank for Lafreniere is on in NSH.
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I wish the Wpg Jets were a smart team. They should've been all over Laviolette as soon as he was fired.
Instead, we're freaking around with a guy who's never won a cup and has the most losses in NHL history for active HCs.
Watching him manipulate this roster makes me nauseous. Especially seeing guys like Ben Chiarot and Brandon Tanev flourish with other teams this season. I sit here wondering how much better our roster could be without Maurice.
They sent one of our youngest, best puck-moving offensive dmen (Sami Niku) to our farm team in favor of plugs like Luca Sbisa, Anthony Bittetto, Tucker Poolman and Nathan Beaulieu. And people wonder why our D and PK is worst in the league. Hellebuyck is already burned out (it's only January).
This reminds me of the Jays' teams from 2015 and 2016....good enough to win a world series, but instead, coached into oblivion by an imbecile (John Gibbons).
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Ray Shero fired
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Ray Shero fired
Saw that. "Mutual parting of ways", always believable.
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Devils beat Washington and Tampa Bay in one weekend.
#KeepFiringPeople
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Devils beat Washington and Tampa Bay in one weekend.
#KeepFiringPeople
Good, keep at it please.
#AlexisLaSeniereSZN
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Curious timing. Almost a parallel regarding weird timing with our beloved football team.
I thought Shero inherited a total mess and did a good job honestly. His undoing was his faith in Schneids and his faith in Hynes. Both those things resulted in the early albatross that sent this season off the rails and pretty much made Hall's decision to not re-up here a certainty.
Still, lot of young talent on this team with a shitload of cap room and for once, prospect depth waiting at the AHL. He left us better than when he arrived.
Tom Fitzgerald should get a serious look in terms of retaining the job. I know ownership wants Marty-Marty was being groomed for an executive job in St. Louis and said he didn't want it because of the grind, but maybe he changes his tune considering he's home so to speak.
Anyway, next order of business is to see what they can flip Simmonds for before the deadline (I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that they flip him to a contender looking for a body on their bottom-six/2nd power play line and that he comes back in the off-season), and while I know the temptation will be to deal Vats-I'd keep him around. He's been a bright spot in a shitty season.
If anyone wants Andy Greene, they can have him.
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https://twitter.com/peteblackburn/status/1216916837029597184?s=21
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Vegas fired Gallant and hired De Boer because reasons.
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Vegas fired Gallant and hired De Boer because reasons.
I'm a huge fan of DeBoer in terms of taking over a veteran team. Having to play the kids in a rebuild? Not so much.
Still, I'd love to see the Devils take a run at Gallant.
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Vegas fired Gallant and hired De Boer because reasons.
That’s a downgrade imo
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I'm a huge fan of DeBoer in terms of taking over a veteran team. Having to play the kids in a rebuild? Not so much.
Still, I'd love to see the Devils take a run at Gallant.
If he's got any sense he'll sit on his Vegas payoff for a few months and then take the Seattle job, he'd have to be the prime candidate given how successfully he built a team from a collection of parts in Vegas.
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That’s a downgrade imo
Big time. Stupid move, but I expect nothing less from McPhee.
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Big time. Stupid move, but I expect nothing less from McPhee.
Everyone acts like McPhee has done this incredible job with the Golden Knights.
The fact of the matter is the expansion draft was absolutely stacked, and he was the beneficiary of a complete and total giveaway on the part of the Panthers regarding Marchessault. It wasn't this gigantic task like we see with other expansion teams because the terms of their entry into the league were unbelievably favorable.
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Everyone acts like McPhee has done this incredible job with the Golden Knights.
The fact of the matter is the expansion draft was absolutely stacked, and he was the beneficiary of a complete and total giveaway on the part of the Panthers regarding Marchessault. It wasn't this gigantic task like we see with other expansion teams because the terms of their entry into the league were unbelievably favorable.
You're singing to the choir on that one, I can't stand McPhee.
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i really wonder what the catalyst for the change was? was being 3 pts out of first not good enough?
deboer of all freaking people, honestly. least sj will get to watch him plateau and crash a different franchise this time...
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gallants gonna be a hot name first the next available role though. he didnt do anything special but theres a lack of "special" coaches right now
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I'm biased when it comes to Pete because I saw him take a team that decidedly had less talent than either the Flyers or the Rangers in 12 past both on their way to a finals appearance.
If Mark Fayne doesn't miss a wide open net in game 1 against the Kings, it's a different series.
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i really wonder what the catalyst for the change was? was being 3 pts out of first not good enough?
Lou once fired someone a week before the playoffs with over 100 points and home ice, took over the team himself. I want to say it was Claude Julien, possibly Larry Robinson. Hoping it was Julien. We got to the second round with Lou behind the bench, like 2006 or 2007.
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Lou once fired someone a week before the playoffs with over 100 points and home ice, took over the team himself. I want to say it was Claude Julien, possibly Larry Robinson. Hoping it was Julien. We got to the second round with Lou behind the bench, like 2006 or 2007.
He did it to Julien AND Robbie Ftorek.
The story goes regarding Julien that he completely lost control of the locker room. Madden was literally taking shots at him during a practice.
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He did it to Julien AND Robbie Ftorek.
The story goes regarding Julien that he completely lost control of the locker room. Madden was literally taking shots at him during a practice.
That's right, didn't he replace Ftorek with Robinson? I think that was the 2000 Cup winning team, which might be why he tried it again.
Madden was a total badass, remember him coming back into that playoff game with the stitches across his face? That same night I was watching a Dodger game, some guy fell on the grass and was out for six weeks.
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That's right, didn't he replace Ftorek with Robinson? I think that was the 2000 Cup winning team, which might be why he tried it again.
Madden was a total badass, remember him coming back into that playoff game with the stitches across his face? That same night I was watching a Dodger game, some guy fell on the grass and was out for six weeks.
Yessir. Robinson came in and they wound up winning the cup against Dallas.
The insane thing is, you could absolutely make the argument that the team that lost to the Av's in the finals was better than any of the cup winning teams.
Madden was the man. I don't know what he's doing now, he had been coaching the Cleveland Monsters for the last couple years.
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Yessir. Robinson came in and they wound up winning the cup against Dallas.
The insane thing is, you could absolutely make the argument that the team that lost to the Av's in the finals was better than any of the cup winning teams.
Madden was the man. I don't know what he's doing now, he had been coaching the Cleveland Monsters for the last couple years.
I think those two seasons, 1999-2000 and 2000-01 were the best Devils teams ever. You had the A line with Gomez and Mogilny as the second line, Stevens still good on D, Neidermayer and Brodeur in their primes, guys like Madden, just a great team.
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Why is Schneider playing? Is this a rerun?
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Only in Philly;
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28539490/flyers-gritty-investigation-alleged-assault-fan-event
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Only in Philly;
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/28539490/flyers-gritty-investigation-alleged-assault-fan-event
(https://preview.redd.it/2y37dgar2gc41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=01c4890900f65b9108a8fa3186fedde5003518aa)
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(https://preview.redd.it/2y37dgar2gc41.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=01c4890900f65b9108a8fa3186fedde5003518aa)
Hahahahahahahaha.
Driving to work this morning I was thinking about what a miserable decision HBO and the NHL made to not continue doing Road to the Winter Classic. It's not the same on EPIX or whatever second rate hellhole currently has it.
Anyway, rumors abound in Jersey that Zajac used his NTC to block a deal. I'd be interested to see what the parameters were in terms of whether or not the Devils would've been expected to retain salary.
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I'm enjoying no hockey this week.
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Hahahahahahahaha.
Driving to work this morning I was thinking about what a miserable decision HBO and the NHL made to not continue doing Road to the Winter Classic. It's not the same on EPIX or whatever second rate hellhole currently has it.
Anyway, rumors abound in Jersey that Zajac used his NTC to block a deal. I'd be interested to see what the parameters were in terms of whether or not the Devils would've been expected to retain salary.
Zajac is still playing?
I thought being from Wpg would’ve taken years off his career
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I'm enjoying no hockey this week.
I am too. The Isles are mentally and physically fatigued. 10 days off will do them good. That Caps game still bothers me. This team misses Clutter and Pelech.
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https://twitter.com/bradytrett/status/1224891078907584513?s=21
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Jesus. Say a prayer for Jay Bouwmeester.
Collapsed on the bench and supposedly needed CPR and the paddles right on the bench. Apparently he’s awake and cognizant at the hospital but that is scary. The rest of the game was postponed.
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/event?event_id=121889
suck it, bitch
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ps sorry kane tried to murder pionk
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/event?event_id=121889
suck it, bitch
Stop screwing my pick bitch
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The Western Conference is absolute trash.
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Mark Chipman should be flayed Bolton-style for giving Maurice that extension....Jesus Christ
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Mark Chipman should be flayed Bolton-style for giving Maurice that extension....Jesus Christ
Thing is though there are no other good coaches available. It's not like there's a George Gallant or Peter Laviolette just sitting around waiting for a call from someone.
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Thing is though there are no other good coaches available. It's not like there's a George Gallant or Peter Laviolette just sitting around waiting for a call from someone.
freak everything
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kane gets 3 games for the hit
karlson done for the year with a thumb injury. im beginning to think this guy may be injury prone...
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That Tyler Seguin is so hot right now
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Paul Bissonnette tweeted at Dan Carcillo accusing him of some pretty racist excrement:
Remember when you used to call me a ni**er in the locker room every day in Wilkes-Barre? Remember when you had a sauwastika embroidered on a robe underneath the hood you wore in an NHL locker room until the captain found out and talked some sense into you? Welcome to the mud Dan.
None of this surprises me about Dan Carcillo, he was a queynte on the ice through his career so it comes as no shock that he was probably one off it as well. The biggest surprise in fact was learning that Bissonnette's mom is black.
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Carcillo now trying to play the wordly sage on Twitter is so freaking absurd on so many levels. Good for Bis for calling him out. Don’t throw stones and all that.
Devils with a huge day yesterday in terms of conducting business. No idea how they got that type of return on Greeney considering they were hamstrung by his NTC.
I love Coleman, wish him the best and understand Tampa’s motivation for getting a deal done given both the other options on the trade market and the fact that they’ll have him at a ridiculous bargain for next year. But the Devils so clearly got 1.25 on their dollar. Had to do it.
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<3 Melnyk
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<3 Melnyk
Eugene Melnyk is a terrorist
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Eugene Melnyk is a terrorist
We will harbour that beautiful bastard in this country for as long as he likes.
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We will harbour that beautiful bastard in this country for as long as he likes.
He doesn't like, he lives in Barbados so he doesn't have to pay tax here. I hope he gets the coronavirus.
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He doesn't like, he lives in Barbados so he doesn't have to pay tax here. I hope he gets the coronavirus.
The Ottawa Senators have traded captain Erik Karlsson to the San Jose Sharks. The Senators receive forward Chris Tierney and defenceman Dylan DeMelo Wpg's 2020 3rd round pick along with prospects Rudolfs Balcers and Josh Norris, a conditional second-round pick in 2019 and a conditional first-round selection in 2020.
Fixed the trade for you, JE.
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LOLLeafs
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LOLLeafs
Johnny English thanks you for this post
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Johnny English thanks you for this post
Guinness77 thanks you for JG Pageau.
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Guinness77 thanks you for JG Pageau.
Shame to see him go, but it was somewhat inevitable and you've given up a lot for him.
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Shame to see him go, but it was somewhat inevitable and you've given up a lot for him.
Good trade for both teams. Frankly, shocked neither Bellows or Wilde part of that trade.
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Good trade for both teams. Frankly, shocked neither Bellows or Wilde part of that trade.
A 1st and a 2nd with no conditions on re-signing is a big price to rent a 3C for 20 games and the postseason.
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Holy excrement the Penguins gave up a 3rd for the rotting carcass of Patrick Marleau. Why?
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A 1st and a 2nd with no conditions on re-signing is a big price to rent a 3C for 20 games and the postseason.
6 years. 5 per.
Parise to the Isles looks like a real-time situation too.
Mmmm, a winger who can score. A top 6 canter. A left-handed defenseman to make up for the Pelech injury. Clutterbuck on a rehab assignment and Cizikas about 2 weeks away from coming back.
I’m happy on trade deadline day. This all feels so...weird.
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6 years. 5 per.
Parise to the Isles looks like a real-time situation too.
Mmmm, a winger who can score. A top 6 canter. A left-handed defenseman to make up for the Pelech injury. Clutterbuck on a rehab assignment and Cizikas about 2 weeks away from coming back.
I’m happy on trade deadline day. This all feels so...weird.
If Pageau is a top 6 center you're winning squat. I love the dude but he's a third line player on a good team.
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Parise's knee hasn't exploded yet?
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If Pageau is a top 6 center you're winning squat. I love the dude but he's a third line player on a good team.
Barzal
Nelson
Pageau
Cizikas
In a salary capped sport, that’s about as solid up the middle you can get. I think Nelson or Pageau can play either line. If the Isles can finish the Parise trade you either put him with Barzal and drop Eberle to the Pageau line or just put them on the same line. Either way Parise and Pageau are both already over 20 goals on two not-so-good teams.
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Parise's knee hasn't exploded yet?
I would take Parise’s age and knee over Ladd any day of the week.
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Ebs-Barzal-Lee
Beau-Nelson-Bailey
Parise-Pageau-Brassard
Clutter-Cizikas-Martin
Still have guys like Komarov, dalColle and Kuhnachle for depth. This is a pretty solid lineup. Really hope this Parise trade happens.
You still have Bellows, Wahlstrom and Koivula coming up.
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Welp, looks like no Parise trade.
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Barzal
Nelson
Pageau
Cizikas
In a salary capped sport, that’s about as solid up the middle you can get. I think Nelson or Pageau can play either line. If the Isles can finish the Parise trade you either put him with Barzal and drop Eberle to the Pageau line or just put them on the same line. Either way Parise and Pageau are both already over 20 goals on two not-so-good teams.
Pageau is over 20 goals because he's been playing first line with Tkachuk, that's how excrement this roster is. This is the only season in which he has broken the 20 mark and the second season he's made 40 points+. On a decent team he's a 30-35 points / season guy who will give you 15 minutes a night of solid two way play on the third line. All good teams have a guy like this, but very few send top picks and then give them 6 year / $30M contracts. I love Pager and he's been an awesome soldier for us, but we've sold at the very top of the market on this one.
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Pageau is over 20 goals because he's been playing first line with Tkachuk, that's how excrement this roster is. This is the only season in which he has broken the 20 mark and the second season he's made 40 points+. On a decent team he's a 30-35 points / season guy who will give you 15 minutes a night of solid two way play on the third line. All good teams have a guy like this, but very few send top picks and then give them 6 year / $30M contracts. I love Pager and he's been an awesome soldier for us, but we've sold at the very top of the market on this one.
Obviously. It’s a smart move by the Sens.
I don’t think you understand how many players make $5 million a year. He’s 27 and he’ll be making almost exactly twice the league average. I don’t know how you could think that’s a lot of money. Pageau was also, other than Kreider, the unquestionable most valuable rental available. The Isles have some decent prospects coming up at wing but center was a need and they got one who should be entering his prime with a good set of players around him.
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Obviously. It’s a smart move by the Sens.
I don’t think you understand how many players make $5 million a year. He’s 27 and he’ll be making almost exactly twice the league average. I don’t know how you could think that’s a lot of money. Pageau was also, other than Kreider, the unquestionable most valuable rental available. The Isles have some decent prospects coming up at wing but center was a need and they got one who should be entering his prime with a good set of players around him.
$5M isn't a lot of money for a good player in isolation. It is a lot of money when you have to give it to him every year for the next six years. I don't think it's an insane overpay but it's definitely more than he's worth, he's an excellent defensive player who will give you a bit of offense. He's not exactly a unicorn.
By way of context, his performance this season (which we agree is an outlier) is under his new contract about $150K per point. Some relevant comparison points:
Derick Brassard: $30K / point
Tyler Ennis (who we just traded to Edmonton for a 5th): $18K / point
Max Domi: $60K / point
Charlie Coyle: $72K / point
Lucas Wallmark: $21K / point
I'm just picking out random 3Cs here, but even at performance levels he's never going to reach again $150K / point is a huge amount of money for the third line and no amount of defense is making up for that. And aren't you about to tack another $8-10M onto your wage bill for Barzal?
I think that time has passed Lou by. He can still pick a player but if you look at what he did in Toronto and now this, he doesn't seem to really know where the value is any more.
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For someone who complains an awful lot about rooting for a team with a shitty owner, you don’t know the first thing about being an islanders fan.
I had to sit through 12 years of Mike Milbury and 10 years of Garth fuckin Snow. That’s 22 years of the worst management in the league. They won 1 freaking playoff series in that time span. 1.
Lamoriello won 3 Cups in Jersey and built the Leafs into a 100-Point team. Maple Leaf fans already want Dubas gone.
Pageau was the most valuable thing available today. I don’t care about the draft picks. Frankly, keeping Dobson, Wilde, Bellows, Wahlstrom over any pick is very important. As I said, center is a position of need and they do have contracts coming off the books. They will be able to offer Barzal a max contract and will be able to pay Pulock and Toews. The rest of the core of the team is locked up. I think Lee’s contract is a little egregious but he’s the captain and the most respected guy in the locker room. Paying a 27-year-old 2/3C isn’t an issue for this team. I know you love arguing but this is a move this team had to make. Especially considering a majority of the league doesn’t want to come here. You can pull all this money per point excrement out your derriere, you should know better than anyone, thats not what it’s all about in this sport. Funny thing, his contract is front loaded so his cap hit is only 4M and 3.5M the last 2 years.
It’s funny, everyone talks about how old Lou is but he’s turned the Isles from a laughingstock to a 100-Point team and everything he’s done, questioned even by our own fans has worked out. The guy wins no matter where he’s been.
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It’s funny, everyone talks about how old Lou is but he’s turned the Isles from a laughingstock to a 100-Point team and everything he’s done, questioned even by our own fans has worked out. The guy wins no matter where he’s been.
How many cups has he won since the introduction of the salary cap?
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How many cups has he won since the introduction of the salary cap?
Lol
Ok, terrible GM. He obviously sucks.
Next time you complain about Melnyk, I’ll hold your beer.
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Lol
Ok, terrible GM. He obviously sucks.
Next time you complain about Melnyk, I’ll hold your beer.
The fact that my team is owned by a world class shitbag currently (our GM is actually an outstanding scout, which is pretty much the only thing that has kept the franchise alive under Melnyk) is irrelevant to the fact that Lamoriello didn't do a great job at the Leafs, and appears to be repeating some of the same mistakes. He didn't build excrement in Toronto - he made obvious draft picks (Marner at #4 after McDavid and Eichel were off the board, Matthews at #1 the following year) and spunked a huge amount of money on a clearly over the hill Patrick Marleau, dumped Kessel for excrement so he could immediately go win a Cup, and dumped their captain and best defenseman for him to immediately go and become the heart of their provincial rivals' run to the Conference final. In fact, the one decent roster move he made for Toronto in three years was the trade for Andersen, and even that hasn't helped them much.
Shanahan dumped him because he could see it wasn't working. Brilliantly, he then got someone even worse in Dubas who immediately further fucked them on contracts. They've got one and a half lines, no defense and a revolving door between the pipes, and Lamoriello built it. I think the Islanders have a much more balanced roster and are a much better bet for long term success, but I wouldn't bank on that remaining the case if you leave Lamoriello in charge. Maybe I'm wrong and it was all Shanahan's fault all along, but I doubt it.
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Ok. Total Coincidence the Isles got good overnight after losing their unquestioned best player. Total coincidence that he’s won everywhere he’s been and Toronto was complete garbage before his time there.
You don’t read most of the excrement I write so what’s the point? Ignore the fact the Islanders were the league laughingstock for 25 years. You constantly cry because your team has sucked for 2 seasons. Boo-Hoo. And now, just coincidentally, they swept the Pens last year, and they’re on pace for 100 points again this year.
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Ok. Total Coincidence the Isles got good overnight after losing their unquestioned best player. Total coincidence that he’s won everywhere he’s been and Toronto was complete garbage before his time there.
You don’t read most of the excrement I write so what’s the point? Ignore the fact the Islanders were the league laughingstock for 25 years. You constantly cry because your team has sucked for 2 seasons. Boo-Hoo. And now, just coincidentally, they swept the Pens last year, and they’re on pace for 100 points again this year.
So what you're saying is that you've forgotten what winning hockey looks like, and how it's built. Gotcha. Because no one really gives a freak how many regular season points you score or even if you win the President's Trophy if you excrement the bed in the playoffs. In the last 7 years, teams run by Lamoriello have made the postseason 3 times and won one series (last year, vs Pittsburgh).
What the Islanders have done in the last 25 years is absolutely irrelevant to what Lou Lamoriello has done in the last ten. He is a busted flush who doesn't know how to build a roster in the salary cap era and he demonstrated that in Toronto. They're going to be paying for his mistakes for years to come.
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I just want to see you argue this.
He became the AD at Providence. The Friars sporting department, all sports, became a destination for many collegiate athletes. The basketball team (he hired Pitino) became a perennial winner.
Gets a job in NJ. Wayne Gretzky called the Devils a “Mickey Mouse organization,” they win 3 Cups.
Took a job with the last place Maple Leafs. Somehow they go from 60 something points to almost 100. His last season there they had 105. They dropped point after adding Tavares and they’re on pace to have even less this year. The players Dubas has singed or extended, looking kinda questionable but obviously the narrative on that is far from finished.
Takes a job with the laughingstock NY Islanders. A team I’ve happened to root for my entire life. In a sport, I’ve followed my entire life. They went from the class of the sport, THE model organization to an organization that changed owners like you change pants, that had one owner sent to jail, another owner imprisoned after that one and an owner, even though he probably saved the team from relocating, suggested putting a sumo wrestler in net and brought a “Hockey For Dummies” book to his presser. A team that went from the biggest joke of a GM, trading future Hall-of-famers left and right to a backup goalie with zero experience at that job. Any job.
He goes and hires the best available coach, analyzes the organization the way he sees fit and gets spurned by the team’s best player, again embarrassing an organization that has been embarrassed many, many times.
Did he overpay for Pageau? Of course. Again, don’t care about that and you can spew all this excrement about how Lou is old (he’s almost freaking 80, of course he’s old) but this organization went from laughingstock to a team some players actually want to come to now. A team that expects to win every night. I brought up Melnyk and your Sens to make a point you’ve abundantly ignored...I watched a loser franchise for 25 fuckin years and all of a sudden (coincidence I guess) I expect them to win, almost every night. Crazy, somehow the GM must have something to do with it.
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You are stating your opinion as I am.
Your opinion. You do understand that right? I know you’re pigheaded as freak but you do understand that’s your opinion, I hope.
You keep blaming Lou for Toronto. Lol. Yep, he fucked em bad. All him.
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You are stating your opinion as I am.
Your opinion. You do understand that right? I know you’re pigheaded as freak but you do understand that’s your opinion, I hope.
You keep blaming Lou for Toronto. Lol. Yep, he fucked em bad. All him.
It's funny that you keep accusing me of not reading your posts when you're the one doing the ignoring.
What he did prior to the 04-05 lockout is irrelevant. There was, as I have already observed, a pretty significant change at that point, one which teams and GMs had to adjust to. Which forced teams to build and manage their rosters differently. You might recall it.
I've also been pretty clear that Shanahan is almost certainly part of the problem in Toronto, but let's be clear - Lamoriello was Shanahan's guy. You think he lets him walk and replaces him with Dubas if he thinks Lou's doing a good job?
Who has Lamoriello acquired that has turned the Islanders into this monster franchise that just like his Leafs teams can score 100 points in the regular season and then go nowhere in the playoffs? Were Brassard and Komarov the magic keys you were missing?
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Somehow the Isles will keep their core, shed contracts like Boychuk, Leddy, Clutterbuck, etc and have the money to sign Barzal to a max contract, re-sign Pulock and Toews and have guys he drafted (Dobson, Wahlstrom, Wilde and Bellows) be big parts of this team very soon.
But....keep up your narrative of how out of touch he is because he gave up draft picks for a guy who easily would have cost $5 million a/s as an UFA who would have never come here and fills a huge need for this team.
I’m just gonna add...I know you don’t live around here so I’m not sure how familiar you are with the Islanders standings with free agents....they have none. They lost their own homegrown player in Tavares for less money to leave and Panarin (who Lou was huge on) also for less money to play in Manhattan. Those are things that he’s attempting to change because that’s been going on for years...convincing guys to stay. I could go through the Ryan Smyth trade, all the free agents who flirt and then never sign. Today he got Pageau to sign for 5 years and got Zach Parise to waive his no-trade clause even though that trade wasn’t completed. That is progress, in my eyes.
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When Lou was in NJ prior to the salary cap the Devils had a self imposed cap because they couldn't and wouldn't pay top dollar. So implementing a cap actually caused every other team to deal with the same restrictions Lou had all along, and the Devils continued to win until Brodeur was no longer a dominant goalie.
Speaking of which, MJ what do you think of all the trades? Looks like we loaded up on picks and are building around the young guys. Seems like they're winning more but every time I look at the standings they don't appear any closer to anyone than when they were losing every game. Hardly matters now, I guess.
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Absolutely stunned you got anything for Simmonds. And, to Buffalo?? What are they thinking?
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When Lou was in NJ prior to the salary cap the Devils had a self imposed cap because they couldn't and wouldn't pay top dollar. So implementing a cap actually caused every other team to deal with the same restrictions Lou had all along, and the Devils continued to win until Brodeur was no longer a dominant goalie.
Speaking of which, MJ what do you think of all the trades? Looks like we loaded up on picks and are building around the young guys. Seems like they're winning more but every time I look at the standings they don't appear any closer to anyone than when they were losing every game. Hardly matters now, I guess.
I'm saddened at the lack of return on Vats, but considering he's strictly a rental and he was hurt when they traded him, I guess Fitz took what he could get. I'd still really like to bring him back via free agency in the off-season, this team will need to spend to hit the floor even with Nico getting 7 million starting next year and with Cory and Zajac on the books. Right-handed puck moving defenseman don't grow on trees.
Had to do the Coleman deal. The price was just too rich and our window for winning with him under 30 and at such an affordable rate is non-existent. They did the smart thing on listening on Palms but not moving him unless they got a similar offer they couldn't refuse. You need SOME veteran stability and assistance on the wing for the two young centers.
I can't believe they got anything for Simmons, I can't believe they actually got a 2nd rounder for Greene even if its in 2021 (and good for Greeney considering he's looking like he's fit in on the island seamlessly. I still think he's a fantastic option as a lower pairing defenseman given his ability to get in front of shots.)
Honestly, my biggest gripe is that I think Shero jumped the gun on Hall. Granted, Bahl looked very good at the world juniors-but given the lack of true top end talent available once Kreider was off the board, even on a clear rental, I think they could have done better had they held onto him and then flipped him on Monday. Colorado is desperate for help on the wing given all the injuries they've had and they have a glut of young talent on the blue line.
Fitz has done well enough so far (and so has Nasraddine to my great surprise) that I wouldn't be upset if they both came back next year and were given an opportunity to run the show. I love Marty. I love Scott Stevens. Asking for either of them to take meaningful roles as GM or head coach at this stage given this roster is just asking for this organization to eventually fire guys that are the apex in terms of franchise legends, all for the sake of nostalgia. No thanks.
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Absolutely stunned you got anything for Simmonds. And, to Buffalo?? What are they thinking?
Simmonds will always have value as a rental, he's one of those wily vets who coaches love at this time of year because grit and intangibles and all sorts of other unquantifiable nonsense that they trot out. It's a long shot but with 20 games to go the Sabres still have an outside chance at a wildcard and the fans are really pissed at the Pegulas right now, so I can see why they might do this just so they can't be accused of quitting on the team.
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I'm saddened at the lack of return on Vats, but considering he's strictly a rental and he was hurt when they traded him, I guess Fitz took what he could get. I'd still really like to bring him back via free agency in the off-season, this team will need to spend to hit the floor even with Nico getting 7 million starting next year and with Cory and Zajac on the books. Right-handed puck moving defenseman don't grow on trees.
Had to do the Coleman deal. The price was just too rich and our window for winning with him under 30 and at such an affordable rate is non-existent. They did the smart thing on listening on Palms but not moving him unless they got a similar offer they couldn't refuse. You need SOME veteran stability and assistance on the wing for the two young centers.
I can't believe they got anything for Simmons, I can't believe they actually got a 2nd rounder for Greene even if its in 2021 (and good for Greeney considering he's looking like he's fit in on the island seamlessly. I still think he's a fantastic option as a lower pairing defenseman given his ability to get in front of shots.)
Honestly, my biggest gripe is that I think Shero jumped the gun on Hall. Granted, Bahl looked very good at the world juniors-but given the lack of true top end talent available once Kreider was off the board, even on a clear rental, I think they could have done better had they held onto him and then flipped him on Monday. Colorado is desperate for help on the wing given all the injuries they've had and they have a glut of young talent on the blue line.
Fitz has done well enough so far (and so has Nasraddine to my great surprise) that I wouldn't be upset if they both came back next year and were given an opportunity to run the show. I love Marty. I love Scott Stevens. Asking for either of them to take meaningful roles as GM or head coach at this stage given this roster is just asking for this organization to eventually fire guys that are the apex in terms of franchise legends, all for the sake of nostalgia. No thanks.
Thanks. Always exciting to go young, Blackwood looks awesome, nice to see Schneider come back and get a win but I think he's on the way out. Maybe we can luck into another #1 overall again, we seem to be the anti-Knicks.
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Sens fired their CEO who was less than two months into the job via a crisis management organisation making a statement about behaviour inconsistent with the values of the team and the NHL. Cue rampant speculation all day until Little, the fired CEO, released this statement:
The statement made today by the team contained some language that deserves some clarification.
On Valentine’s Day, the owner and I had a personal disagreement over the approach that I had been pursuing. I am a strong-willed person and the disagreement included me using some very strong language with him over the phone, including swearing, which he did not appreciate and for which I later apologized.
It was these events, to my knowledge, which led to my dismissal. Any other inference from the statement is wrong.
So basically it was because that freaking shitbag of an owner got upset that someone dared to stand up to him and tell him that he doesn't know how to run a professional hockey team, something which has been blatantly apparent for a long time to literally everyone except Eugene Melnyk.
I have no idea why the NHL BoG continue to allow this travesty to continue. He won't sell, he won't support the team, one of the previously best attended teams in the league is now getting gates of less than half capacity, he's bleeding what few corporate sponsors he had, and he's having to find increasingly creative ways to take on contracts that will allow the club to hit the cap floor without actually having to pay out the money. He can't move the team, he has blown the downtown stadium deal, and he won't sell it to one of the consortia waiting in the wings to buy it from him. The inaction on their part is almost as disgraceful as his behaviour.
James Dolan talk can freak off, I'd let him play a half hour gig with his band at centre ice before every game and I'd actually go watch the freaking thing every time if it meant him Melnyk gone. This is the worst owner in professional sports.
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It's not really NHL-related but I don't know where else to put it and it's the greatest thing that has happened this week:
https://twitter.com/c_marleau/status/1239747420386291713
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https://twitter.com/zedmat/status/1252764605564309504?s=21
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Rumor going around that Pierre Maguire was interviewed for the Devils' GM position lulz
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Rumor going around that Pierre Maguire was interviewed for the Devils' GM position lulz
Haha that would get that douchebag off of TV, that would be awesome.
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Haha that would get that douchebag off of TV, that would be awesome.
Maybe he’ll hire Milbury as his coach. Win-win
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Maybe he’ll hire Milbury as his coach. Win-win
Jesus NBC would be watchable then
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Rumor going around that Pierre Maguire was interviewed for the Devils' GM position lulz
Stop it.
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Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman will make a formal announcement on the NHL's return-to-play plan today at 4:30 p.m. ET on @Sportsnet
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my body is ready
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWOfGUBnPp8
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Go Stars Go
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Go Stars Go
Those cunts have a bye to the first round
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Jets vs Flames in August.
I want Matthew Tkachuk's head on a pike.
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Jets vs Flames in August.
I want Matthew Tkachuk's head on a pike.
Which one you flamer?
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
The NHL Playoffs will not be bracketed, but re-seeded after every round. Qualifying will be best-of-five. All other rounds will be best-of-seven.
LFG
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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
The NHL Playoffs will not be bracketed, but re-seeded after every round. Qualifying will be best-of-five. All other rounds will be best-of-seven.
LFG
Presumably re-seeded within the Conferences though, right? No one wants to see an all Eastern or all Western SCF.
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Presumably re-seeded within the Conferences though, right? No one wants to see an all Eastern or all Western SCF.
Correct
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Of note on the NHL playoff format: The top four seeds in each conference will be determined by the results of the three-game round robin, with regular-season points percentage serving as a tiebreaker if needed.
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wrong link. whoops
Melnyk stole from a charity.
NHL: "crickets"
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https://database.execulink.net/Aurora/aurora.fcgi/accounts/account/314117/services
Melnyk stole from a charity.
NHL: "crickets"
I've been following this story the last couple of days. It may be a bit early to start passing judgement but if the Gibbons editorial in the Citizen this morning is correct then the Board of Governors can't ignore this.
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https://twitter.com/6thSens/status/1270046935068663808
Please let this finally be the end of that hideous piece of excrement Melnyk.
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if melnyk could feel anything, i'm sure it would be indignation towards the whole thing.
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Rick Ralph
@RickRalphTSN
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#NHLJets training camp will begin on July 10. Provided health and safety gives the thumbs up. NHL and NHLPA announce they have agreed on that date.
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https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/more-explosive-and-shocking-allegations-against-junior-hockey-in-newly-filed-lawsuit
Wtfffff
The headline is an undersell honestly
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https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/more-explosive-and-shocking-allegations-against-junior-hockey-in-newly-filed-lawsuit
Wtfffff
The headline is an undersell honestly
The teams I follow have been forcing me to eat excrement and consume large quantities of drugs and alcohol for many years, I don't see why the players get a pass.
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freak thats messed up
what are the odds dale hunter (london knights) isn't implicated in some way? slim to none? fuckkkk
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According to Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman, Lindy Ruff is the "mystery candidate" for the Devils' head coaching job.
A mystery no more, it seems. Ruff, who served as head coach of the Sabres from 1997-2013 and the Stars from 2013-2017, has most recently been working as an assistant coach for the Rangers. He joins Alain Nasreddine, Gerard Gallant, Peter Laviolette, and John Stevens on the candidate list in New Jersey. The Devils finished 28-29-12 in 2019-2020 and will not be participating in the NHL's planned 24-team Stanley Cup tournament.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5WnU75naQ
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Guess I'm still not paying attention to hockey for a few more years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK5WnU75naQ
if the Devils pass on hiring Gallant or Laviolette for anyone else on that list....they deserve to be in purgatory for the next decade.
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NGL, this actually sounds pretty cool.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1979145
Also, forgot to comment earlier on the suggestion of Ruff as the new Devils coach. So let me just take this moment to say
Ell
Oh
freaking
Ell
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Blues cancel practice amid multiple positive tests. The US should not have sports this year.
Source (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/blues-forced-to-cancel-practice-after-multiple-positive-coronavirus-tests/amp/)
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200706/8644b1eb4dc722802ae8a0175d025bbf.jpg)
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Mets fans;
Pray that Harris and Blitzer don't buy your franchise. And then pray some more to an alternative God (easy to do for you atheists) so that all your bases are covered.
The state of things especially considering the level of success I grew up under is nothing short of heartbreaking. They've completed their descent to that of the mid/late 90's Islanders. A once proud franchise hamstrung by ineptitude at every level.
Lindy freaking Ruff with Gallant and Laviolette sitting out there. What a joke.
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Seattle Kraken
PRRRRT
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Seattle Kraken
PRRRRT
Their jerseys, logo and color scheme are pretty sharp.
And if they nickname their arena the "krak house"....just give them the cup.
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I hate their logo
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Should have gone with The Washington Hockey Team
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I hate their logo
you have poor taste, m8.
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I think the wordmark and the secondary logo are fine, but that S just looks like an alien dong.
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I think the wordmark and the secondary logo are fine, but that S just looks like an alien dong.
i like it better than the Vegas Golden Boba Fetts
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Coyotes fire GM John Chayka
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Coyotes fire GM John Chayka
It's all very weird. He asked for permission to explore another opportunity, believed to be outside of hockey, and was granted it. Then they got pissy about him doing so and fired him.
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Actually, I just read the team statement. They didn't fire him, he quit and the team is pissed about it.
https://www.nhl.com/coyotes/news/arizona-coyotes-statement/c-317637708
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed8c_ZbXgAMDfON?format=png&name=medium)
I presume that this is because 98% of hockey players live on farms in Buttfucknowhere, Saskatchewan and spend their spare time hunting, fishing and playing golf.
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My first thought when I saw the Kraken logo. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_S)
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https://twitter.com/MNorman87/status/1289035569482338305
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Hockey starts.......now
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Hockey starts.......now
Let's Go Jets
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Let's Go Jets
The Jets postseason is over......now
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wow, what a game.
thats the type of game that leads to insane underdog stories, that'd be something.
maple leafs winning a cup would be perfect for 2020
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https://twitter.com/corwinmc/status/1292965620712198145?s=21
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toronto choked
holy excrement, that tampa/columbus game was nuts
korpisalo had 85 freaking saves, insanity
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File this under "Things I never thought I'd say":
Looking forward to watching the Islanders on the August Sunday afternoon.
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File this under "Things I never thought I'd say":
Looking forward to watching the Islanders on the August Sunday afternoon.
Islanders tailgate 2020?
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https://twitter.com/SpokedZ/status/1298098849316315137?s=20
I haven't been watching hockey for very long, but this really is one of the dumbest things I've seen.
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https://twitter.com/SpokedZ/status/1298098849316315137?s=20
I haven't been watching hockey for very long, but this really is one of the dumbest things I've seen.
The hockey gods smiled upon Radulov
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The hockey gods smiled upon Radulov
Radz is playing like he sacrificed a small child before the series
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Radz is playing like he sacrificed a small child before the series
I would expect nothing less...he’s insane
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https://twitter.com/SpokedZ/status/1298098849316315137?s=20
I haven't been watching hockey for very long, but this really is one of the dumbest things I've seen.
Hockey is frustrating like that sometimes. Your team can outshoot somebody 40-9 and lose on a goal like that. Somehow the better teams end up winning more often than not.
I'm enjoying this islanders run. In Lou we (they) trust.
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Hockey is frustrating like that sometimes. Your team can outshoot somebody 40-9 and lose on a goal like that.
The Stars are my team, so I was more than OK with it. I just thought it was hilariously stupid.
Radulov and the goalie had no idea what happened for a few seconds.
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Radulov washed his breakfast down this morning with a glass of Zach Whitecloud's tears
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Devils buy out Cory
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Devils buy out Cory
I'm hoping with three of the top 20 draft picks we don't take last by 15 points again.
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I'm hoping with three of the top 20 draft picks we don't take last by 15 points again.
shakir was a terrible freaking pick, but at least the 1st was good and the 2nd was eh
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shakir was a terrible freaking pick, but at least the 1st was good and the 2nd was eh
I've never heard of any of these guys, just hoping something one of my teams does in a draft works.
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lmao
holtz was picked at 7, sniper and great pick
mercer was 18
shakir was 20 and reach, hes just big. cant do anything particularly great.
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I'm hoping with three of the top 20 draft picks we don't take last by 15 points again.
Unfortunately, not one of those kids will be on the roster this year.
But, the Devils quietly have a real nice crop of prospects that are either ready, or on the cusp. Foote and Smith likely make the team out of camp and we'll see Bahl's monstrous frame soon enough after he gets some seasoning in Binghampton.
I'm not big on trading Palmeiri in the off-season, I'd rather wait until the deadline. Nico and Hughes need SOME talent to play with on the wing.
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Unfortunately, not one of those kids will be on the roster this year.
But, the Devils quietly have a real nice crop of prospects that are either ready, or on the cusp. Foote and Smith likely make the team out of camp and we'll see Bahl's monstrous frame soon enough after he gets some seasoning in Binghampton.
I'm not big on trading Palmeiri in the off-season, I'd rather wait until the deadline. Nico and Hughes need SOME talent to play with on the wing.
Do we know when the season starts?
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Do we know when the season starts?
the plan is to start Jan 1, 2021
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the plan is to start Jan 1, 2021
Thanks, MB. You're not all bad.
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Thanks, MB. You're not all bad.
no...i'm still an poopchute.