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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2021, 12:46:06 PM »
I also think it's overblown what he said. Zach does need to get the ball out earlier. GVR and the line needs to block better, with GVR being the main culprit.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2021, 12:54:26 PM »
I also think it's overblown what he said. Zach does need to get the ball out earlier. GVR and the line needs to block better, with GVR being the main culprit.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2021, 12:55:48 PM »
I also think it's overblown what he said. Zach does need to get the ball out earlier. GVR and the line needs to block better, with GVR being the main culprit.

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2021, 03:27:53 PM »
Corey Davis spoke to the media as well.


Didn't see it, but I'll take your word for it.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2021, 02:39:42 PM »
Jets notable PFF Grades Offensively:

Greg Van Roten: 87.0
Elijah Moore: 84.4
Braxton Berrios: 79.4
Ty Johnson: 78.4
Jamison Crowder: 78.2
Michael Carter: 74.1
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 72.4
Mike White: 68.9

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2021, 02:42:38 PM »
Jets notable PFF Grades Offensively:

Greg Van Roten: 87.0
Elijah Moore: 84.4
Braxton Berrios: 79.4
Ty Johnson: 78.4
Jamison Crowder: 78.2
Michael Carter: 74.1
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 72.4
Mike White: 68.9

Wtf actually happened yesterday

The playcalling was clearly designed to get the ball out of White's hands as quickly as possible, so the rushers didn't really have time to blow GvR up. It is noticeable how many times Hubbard, who was attacking that side of the line, managed to get his hands up and get something on the pass. I don't know if PFF reflect that as a negative on the lineman.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2021, 03:17:06 PM »
Jets notable PFF Grades Offensively:

Greg Van Roten: 87.0
Elijah Moore: 84.4
Braxton Berrios: 79.4
Ty Johnson: 78.4
Jamison Crowder: 78.2
Michael Carter: 74.1
Alijah Vera-Tucker: 72.4
Mike White: 68.9

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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2021, 03:22:29 PM »
How many passes did Hubbard tip yesterday?  GVR was responsible for every single one of them.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2021, 03:26:03 PM »
How many passes did Hubbard tip yesterday?  GVR was responsible for every single one of them.

Regardless of how many he actually tipped, he had his hands up on every play. I was begging GVR to dive for his legs on just one of them.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2021, 05:19:50 PM »
Regardless of how many he actually tipped, he had his hands up on every play. I was begging GVR to dive for his legs on just one of them.

I don't think linemen can do that anymore in the NFL. 
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2021, 05:44:46 PM »
I don't think linemen can do that anymore in the NFL. 

I thought the dividing line was the knees.
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2021, 06:14:11 PM »
I thought the dividing line was the knees.

There's some stupid rule "inside the tight end box" where linemen can't block low. 

The way the quick screen game took off is linemen diving below the knee, at shins to drive the defender back. 

Van Roten diving at Hubbard's upper body is a whiff.  He'd have to dive below the knee to get any kind of drop from the defender. 
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2021, 06:37:34 AM »
PFF also had Sam Darnold as their number 1 rated QB (line was like 13/24 with 150 yards and no TDs) and Mike White outside of the top 10
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
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Re: Why was Greg Van Roten?
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2022, 01:45:23 PM »
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