2020 MLB thread

[IATA]

i wonder if theyre gonna touch on his wife ignoring roys wishes to go into the hall as a blue jay because the phillies gave her a job and the blue jays didnt trade him when she wanted?

[SixFeetDeep]

The MLB owners have approved a proposal to present to players, as @Ken_Rosenthal reported. They plan to meet tomorrow to discuss it.

Now is when it starts to get serious. And we'll know soon enough if baseball is actually coming back in 2020.

Passan

[SixFeetDeep]

https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21

I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe

[AlioTheFool]

https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21

I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe

I disagree. I think he's right. He made his point in a shitty way, but I agree with the substance of the argument.

Why do the players have to sacrifice salary they'll never recoup? And be sequestered from their families (or put their families' health at risk)? And risk injury while at reduced pay?

We're in a crazy world and emotions play a big part of people's perceptions of situations. Unemployment is skyrocketing, so no one wants to hear a millionaire cry about his lost income, but Tony Clark is right, player salaries aren't tied to revenue. And the owners wanted it that way. When times were good and owners were making money hand-over-fist, they didn't want to share. Well, what goes around, comes around.

Pay the players.

[MBGreen]

https://twitter.com/jflan816/status/1260721297522339843?s=21

I always knew Snell was a massive player of the pink oboe

Marc Topkin
@TBTimes_Rays
#Rays Snell said he thinks concern over #coronavirus is being over-hyped by media: “If I get it, it I get it.”
1:31 PM · Mar 11, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

[guinness77]

That’s funny, I’m making less money because of all this, I’m way more at risk at getting this than an MLB player is and I have to bring home that chance to my family every day from work. Play your kid’s game and make 10 million a year instead of 15 million a year for just one year.

My wife is a soccer coach and she’s raised $6,000 for groceries for the town’s food harvest and the line is pretty long every day and these guys are gonna complain? Sorry but that’s a bunch of bullshit and goes to show you how out of touch they are with the people who usually spend a few hundred bucks just to watch a 9-inning game.

[SixFeetDeep]

I disagree. I think he's right. He made his point in a shitty way, but I agree with the substance of the argument.

Why do the players have to sacrifice salary they'll never recoup? And be sequestered from their families (or put their families' health at risk)? And risk injury while at reduced pay?

We're in a crazy world and emotions play a big part of people's perceptions of situations. Unemployment is skyrocketing, so no one wants to hear a millionaire cry about his lost income, but Tony Clark is right, player salaries aren't tied to revenue. And the owners wanted it that way. When times were good and owners were making money hand-over-fist, they didn't want to share. Well, what goes around, comes around.

Pay the players.

I didn’t say I disagree with 100% of what he’s saying. He talks like a prick and he comes off as entitled and selfish.

I don’t buy that he’s worried about the health risks. He very clearly says he would be fine with playing if he was making his full salary.

[SixFeetDeep]

Thank you

[Badger]

How much does money does Stuart Sternberg stand to bring in from a partial season at zero risk to himself?

Snell sounds kind of like a dick here but don't miss the forest for the trees.

[AlioTheFool]

That’s funny, I’m making less money because of all this, I’m way more at risk at getting this than an MLB player is and I have to bring home that chance to my family every day from work. Play your kid’s game and make 10 million a year instead of 15 million a year for just one year.

My wife is a soccer coach and she’s raised $6,000 for groceries for the town’s food harvest and the line is pretty long every day and these guys are gonna complain? Sorry but that’s a bunch of bullshit and goes to show you how out of touch they are with the people who usually spend a few hundred bucks just to watch a 9-inning game.

As I said, human emotion is going to cloud your opinion on a topic like this. You're not wrong, but he's not wrong for implying "Pay me my entire salary or I'm joining the inevitable picket line and everybody loses."

The difference between us and him is that we can't afford to lose a year's salary and unfortunately, due to the nature of his job, he's far less replaceable than you or me.

BTW, your wife is awesome.

I didn’t say I disagree with 100% of what he’s saying. He talks like a prick and he comes off as entitled and selfish.

I don’t buy that he’s worried about the health risks. He very clearly says he would be fine with playing if he was making his full salary.

He absolutely came off as a prick, no arguments there.

As far as the health risks, I can't speak for him, but even if he is worried, players will be tested at least a few times a week, if not daily, so he's got far less to worry about than the rest of us, and he likely knows that.

How much does money does Stuart Sternberg stand to bring in from a partial season at zero risk to himself?

Snell sounds kind of like a dick here but don't miss the forest for the trees.

Exactly. Snell shows the same out-of-touch attitude that many athletes do ("How am I going to feed my kids?") but the reality is, no one is saying the owners should sacrifice anything. The closest to that anyone comes is saying "Millionaires and billionaires fighting over billions are both going to look awful here."

[AlioTheFool]

Also, not sharing revenue was what the owners wanted when the money was rolling in. The players agreed to not base income on revenue. Well, that works both ways. The owners wanted to cut the players out of any increase in profits. So when they lose profit, it shouldn't come out of the players' pockets. That's how contracts work.

[IATA]

snell is spot on, why should he take less pay to actually play and not be able to see his family for however many months, all to make sure a freaking billionaire or whatever makes a few extra million while sitting on his derriere at home in a mansion with his family?

why should snell and his teammates risk any long term health effects for a fraction of their salary?

forreal, it sucks your wives are having to deal with this and whatever, but how the freak is that snell or the players problem? they are there to make money too, they just happen to be making more of it.


freak the owners, their greed is whats going to cost us the season in the end, not covid.

[guinness77]

They all make a lot of money to play a child’s sport so I don’t feel one iota of sorriness for either party. Almost every aspect of society has felt this, either emotionally or financially, so what makes them special? Because they can hit a baseball or throw a curve? freak all of them, they can make a little less money, just like the rest of us schlubs. Not sucking my own rooster, but I’m still working my derriere off through all this. No OT, no bartending gig, boo-hoo, right?

Thanks by the way, Alio. I definitely married up.

[Miamipuck]

They all make a lot of money to play a child’s sport so I don’t feel one iota of sorriness for either party. Almost every aspect of society has felt this, either emotionally or financially, so what makes them special? Because they can hit a baseball or throw a curve? freak all of them, they can make a little less money, just like the rest of us schlubs. Not sucking my own rooster, but I’m still working my derriere off through all this. No OT, no bartending gig, boo-hoo, right?

Thanks by the way, Alio. I definitely married up.

I am with you bro, right there.

[IATA]

i dont feel sorry for them either, but i'm also not going to expect them to go out and work and not get paid, just like i wouldnt expect you to.

its not just the dudes making 10 million a year who would suddenly make only 2-3 million. it's the dudes making minimum who are gonna be making 25% too.

people are mad at snell because of how he presented his argument, but he was on freaking twitch answering a question.