2020 Democratic Primary

[AlioTheFool]

I'll make it simple so you might get it.

Millions of people are suffering and millions of other people give a excrement.

The rest of the field either wants to nibble around the edges of it and the opposition thinks those people deserve to suffer.

No we don't.

Without commenting politically on this, it's hilarious that you didn't put yourself in the "millions of other people give a excrement" camp.

[mj2sexay]

Without commenting politically on this, it's hilarious that you didn't put yourself in the "millions of other people give a excrement" camp.

"The opposition thinks those people deserve to suffer"

The opposition of course being Trump and his supporters.

I get that we have to strawman and otherize the opposition so we feel like good little freedom fighters, but there's no basis in reality to any of it.

[dcm1602]

Here's a serious post whether you guys like my opinion or not.

My situation:

I took several steps back in my life. I had an ex-wife who was very sick, I was her caretaker for over a dozen years more than anything. When I asked her family for help (not monetary, just nursing and actual care help) they stole excrement and made my life hell so I moved out, while still paying for everything. 2 years later, I sold the house, gave my ex a small fortune to be done with everything, all several years prior to leaving Florida. I came back to NY for a new life, thought I had a great gal and it turned out after my money went, mentally so did she. This is all no big deal excrement happens in life.

Today, I am working 2 jobs, taking 18 credits in college to get an accounting degree and sleep in the odd spare time when I get it. I did this because I had to reinvent myself basically the mountain isn't coming to me. For the first time since my early 20's, I owe people money and can't really spend anything on leisure. I had/have to work my derriere off more than any other time in my life. I literally do not have any free time. However, I have never felt more accomplished and happier, plus I now have a great girlfriend.

So what does this mean to the political discussion here.

I am tired of the same old promise everything to everyone candidates. This is America where anything is still possible and where you should not have your hand out expecting something in return for nothing. Go out reinvent yourself, go to school, don't go to school, start your own business or don't, work for someone or don't etc. etc.

You Bernie people say Bloomberg is a scumbag. You know what, this may come off as condescending and I don't care. I know more about Bloomberg than most and I don't give a freak about that opinion. My best friend was an upper level executive at Bloomberg and discussed with me ad-nauseum the culture there. He had daily meetings with MB, his co-founder (who he called the angriest billionaire on the planet but got along great with him) and or the CEO of the business (Dan Doctoroff a complete and utter scumbag).

 They weren't nice guys, in fact they ran quite the tight ship, Bloomberg the company isn't a happy go lucky place. They pay extremely well but with that comes an immense price not limited to your soul. The internal rules and regulations were onerous or draconian if you will. The employment there was a barbell, meaning there were a lot of people that worked there forever and many people that worked there for a short time, but not many in the middle. Which is usually telling of an environment that is very tough to get along in. Take all of that how it's intended, to give you a background.

 I know Bloomberg will govern the country better than Trump and god forbid Bernie or even worse Warren. Every single one of which is a slimy scumbag, no different than Bloomberg.

As much as I detest Trump and the sycophants that follow the Republican party, especially the vocal 2% that espouse the vomit inducing opinions of "conservative" America and or the god squad, I am 100% voting for 4 more years if Bernie or Warren are the nominees.

I don't want Nazi era judges and god squad in power but I will take that any day of the week rather than see America be a socialist country. I know Congress probably won't let that happen but I don't want to take the chance. I would rather a small infinitesimal chance that government can shrink versus making tax rates expand. If anyone thinks that over-taxing will cure what ails this country, they're 100% nuts.

There are lots of things I want to see  that wouldn't happen from either side, I would love to see an emphasis on growing small business, cleaner fuels, fixing the infrastructure, fixing the power grid, modernizing the country etc. etc. All of which is very doable if it's done right. What I don't want, is what happened to Amazon last year where business and commerce is destroyed by pure abject ignorance.

Want to help the little guy? Help small business's and the country's infrastructure, not bail reform and not more handouts. It's just not going to happen with all of the polarized agenda's out there.

Yes, if you want handouts, go freak yourself. Go get a job or two or 3. Go back to school, get vocational training. It's all possible if you have an ounce of initiative. I am tired, sick and tired, of hands being out or expecting something for nothing. I have borrowed and owe money for the first time in a long derriere time and it sucks. That said even though I am ancient, I will have decent prospects once I graduate.

The one and only deviation to my opinion is free/affordable healthcare. I do think that should be available to everyone. Once again that's if you can find a system that can work. I am not sure it's possible with the assholes we have in office.

Sorry to hear all this as sometimes excrement just sucks. But glad you have a plan and things are going well

[dcm1602]

I understand free Healthcare isn't without warts, quite the contrary. However, in this day and age something can be done to help. There's a lot of smart people that shouldbe able  to figure a way to make it all work. Maybe, I am wrong, who knows at least try

I know the thought of this is so reprehensible and disgusting that most people can't wrap their mind around it. But I think tighter restrictions on Healthcare for lost causes is by far the most difficult obstacle to overcome. Simply because candidates would be terrified of supporting something that appears to kill off the frail.

But the reality is healthcare is so poorly managed. Crazy people are so desperate to keep people alive they don't care about at what cost or quality of life. A 94 year old who is essentially a meat suit with a pulse, yes let's spend 30 million to keep them artificially alive for a few more weeks to make someone else feel better.

I think universal Healthcare could work and be a good thing, if it was done half competently. And to me the two biggest obstacles are lost causes and people who don't care about their health.

While far from a perfect solution, I think the government should add a coinsurance cocharge (this would be during the implementation of universal Healthcare) to lost causes and people who grotesquely don't care for themselves. This way if someone wants to keep a corpse alive for a few years, they can pay a few hundred thousand out of pocket to help feel the burden it puts on society. And the same thing for people who are either extremely obese, poorly controlled diabetics, drug abusers, smokers and alcoholics.

Sure some will interpret this as death squads, but the reality is healthcare isn't unlimited and is stupid freaking expensive. So people need to be sensible. Even with a universal system

[AlioTheFool]

"The opposition thinks those people deserve to suffer"

The opposition of course being Trump and his supporters.

I get that we have to strawman and otherize the opposition so we feel like good little freedom fighters, but there's no basis in reality to any of it.

FTR, I don't care about it in any way except it was funny that you didn't put yourself in the group of people who give a excrement about others' suffering.

[Jumbo]

You're right about the first part, but losing Florida isn't a death knell.  Doesn't help, but not the end of the world.
 There are several other states that were really close losses last time that could flip and more than make up for it. Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn., North Carolina.....

The only two candidates to win the election without Florida in the last 100 years are Clinton '92 and Kennedy '60, and I seriously doubt Bernie is on their levels as a candidate

[dcm1602]

The only two candidates to win the election without Florida in the last 100 years are Clinton '92 and Kennedy '60, and I seriously doubt Bernie is on their levels as a candidate

But Bernie cares about those suffering more than they did

[Miamipuck]

Sorry to hear all this as sometimes excrement just sucks. But glad you have a plan and things are going well

Thank you but things are going really well for me, I wish I did this 20 years ago. I have a few professors that are pushing me to go to an upper tier business school for my Masters so that's pretty crazy to me. Lol I am a fairly well respected student. I think I may be too old for that, but I will graduate in December.

Anyway, I just wanted to lay out my life and explain why my stance is what it is.

[dcm1602]

Thank you but things are going really well for me, I wish I did this 20 years ago. I have a few professors that are pushing me to go to an upper tier business school for my Masters so that's pretty crazy to me. Lol I am a fairly well respected student. I think I may be too old to get into that first tier of business schools. So I am not sure.

Only thing I'll say about an MBA is make sure it'll financially be worthwhile

Now a days everyone and their mother has an advanced degree. So if you're going to spend that kinda cash, there's gotta be a fairly clear path to a return on the investment. Both the time and money

And id imagine being older the window for that return could be a bit smaller

[bojanglesman]

Puck, if you just cut out 2 appetizers per day, 2 Zimas and 1 gay handjob under the bridge, you'll be in great financial shape.  Hell, you'll be set if you get off your derriere and, God forbid, give a couple of BJs to those sailors in port on weekends.

[bojanglesman]

Warren's earlobes are almost as freaky as Biden's teeth.

[SixFeetDeep]

Warren's earlobes are almost as freaky as Biden's teeth.

Very distinct physical trait many Cherokee have

[bojanglesman]

Very distinct physical trait many Cherokee have

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[Badger]

Hey dcm, the betting markets updated their numbers after last night.

[insanity]

Thank you but things are going really well for me, I wish I did this 20 years ago. I have a few professors that are pushing me to go to an upper tier business school for my Masters so that's pretty crazy to me. Lol I am a fairly well respected student. I think I may be too old for that, but I will graduate in December.

Anyway, I just wanted to lay out my life and explain why my stance is what it is.

Congrats on pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Not an easy thing to do, especially when you're older.

I'm a big bernie supporter strictly from a morality standpoint, but I'm starting to disagree with more and more of his ways of getting things done. 

Case in point free public college.  Given the amount allocated to pell Grant's it seems like their should be enough money to help people go to college with little debt, but people keep making bad decisions