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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3480 on: September 14, 2020, 06:47:27 PM »
can you provide any proof of any of this? because honestly it reads like some of the same talking points i've heard alex jones bring up

Were you in a coma during 2008-16 or do you legitimately not remember the idiotic rhetoric utilized by Obama at the worst possible times (lecturing the country on gun control and wypipo during a supposed eulogy for five fallen police officers murdered by a domestic terrorist who professed alignment with BLM being one example of hundreds more that I'd provide if you were actually approaching this in good faith.)

This is such a disgusting opinion.   

Lol. The pearl clutching!

The police aren't literally hunting black people

They aren't, glad we agree.


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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3481 on: September 14, 2020, 06:56:25 PM »
lmao wait people still think Obama is socialist?

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3482 on: September 14, 2020, 06:57:46 PM »
im still just seeing hurt feefees cause the mean ole man spoke about being black and not any concrete evidence he worked to make america racist.


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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3483 on: September 14, 2020, 07:22:26 PM »
lmao wait people still think Obama is socialist?

That freaking commie wanted to give healthcare to everyone, even...poor people
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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3484 on: September 14, 2020, 08:40:41 PM »
I knew socialism wouldn't work, it fails every time, but I had hope for Obama as a cultural, unifying figure in our history.

I'm sorry, what does socialism mean to you?

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3485 on: September 16, 2020, 04:56:00 PM »
Were you in a coma during 2008-16 or do you legitimately not remember the idiotic rhetoric utilized by Obama at the worst possible times (lecturing the country on gun control and wypipo during a supposed eulogy for five fallen police officers murdered by a domestic terrorist who professed alignment with BLM being one example of hundreds more that I'd provide if you were actually approaching this in good faith.)

How about inserting himself into the Trayvon Martin case before the facts were known? Saying "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon", while the media showed a picture of Trayvon at 12 and doctored the 911 calls. It went on that way for a year before the televised court case when the lawyers demonstrated how Martin was a bigger man than Zimmerman and bashing his head into the sidewalk.

Or the Michael Brown case where "hands up don't shoot" turned out to be complete horseshit, and Obama's own DOJ found no wrongdoing on the part of the cops. Incidents like that, spurred on by Obama, brought us from a good place towards where we've gone since.

Ladies, I thought we weren't doing this in Jets threads. Please.

Funny how it's universally agreed upon here that we don't want this in the Jets forum, when my whole point is it's not helpful during a Jets game.

This whole concept of "systemic racism" is 50-100 years out of date. We've had black people in the highest levels of our system--President, Supreme Court, Attorney General, mayors of large cities, prosecutors, DAs, police chiefs. That's great, that's what we want, but then how did it happen if the system is racist? And why didn't those people fix it if it existed? And if they didn't, what am I supposed to do about it during a Jets game because some sideline chick wants to pontificate about "justice"? Please.
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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3486 on: September 16, 2020, 06:46:04 PM »
Watching IS and MJ jerk each other off in the thread is the worst gay porn I have ever seen.
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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3487 on: September 16, 2020, 07:07:16 PM »
Watching IS and MJ jerk each other off in the thread is the worst gay porn I have ever seen.

Ffs, but do you have just zero self-awareness at all?

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3488 on: September 16, 2020, 08:11:23 PM »
This whole concept of "systemic racism" is 50-100 years out of date. We've had black people in the highest levels of our system--President, Supreme Court, Attorney General, mayors of large cities, prosecutors, DAs, police chiefs. That's great, that's what we want, but then how did it happen if the system is racist? And why didn't those people fix it if it existed? And if they didn't, what am I supposed to do about it during a Jets game because some sideline chick wants to pontificate about "justice"? Please.

Black people were systematically kept out of housing markets for a century following the end of slavery. Federal programs such as the WPA systematically and intentionally built neighborhoods to be segregated as a matter of explicit policy. This led to vast inequalities in the ways white and black families accumulated wealth. Furthermore, black neighborhoods tended to be more dense, less green, with fewer white collar jobs and more pollution. This led to the development of violent inner cities, with less economic mobility and a sense that the system had failed them compounded by more overcrowded classrooms. This was normal throughout the latter half of the 20th century. This leads to systemic poverty over the course of generations, even as public policy has become more equitable. Systemic poverty is a form of systemic racism.

These segregated cities have in turn led to less integration between white and black people, and a sense of 'othering' on both sides. This furthers implicit bias - people, including cops, including lawmakers, including black people themselves - implicitly tend to believe white people more, and think that black people are more violent. Implicit bias is unavoidable in a world with billions of people and millions of subgroups and divisions - it's a way that humans process large batches of information, and without the neurology of categorizing we would all be lost all the time. But the very denial of those biases is itself a form of systemic racism.

The fact that black people succeed in this society is not evidence of a lack of systemic racism until they succeed, proportionally, at roughly the same level as white people. In 2016, the median white family was $154,000 wealthier than the median black family.

If not for systemic racism, what accounts for that kind of number? Would your explanation be that black people are inherently worse at making money? Or do the systems that have existed in this country allow easier access for white people to have wealth?

Last but not least, 'the war on drugs' has systematically led to more black people being convicted of crimes than white people. I grew up in a mostly black neighborhood in Brooklyn. I knew, by the time I was 14, a significant number of teenagers on my block who had already been arrested for possession with intent to distribute, mostly from random 'stop and frisk' incidents. On the other hand, my high school was mostly white and Asian. People there passed around pot and pills with more frequency than I ever saw in my neighborhood. My high school class sent 47% of its graduates to Ivy league schools, including multiple kids who were caught with drugs on school grounds. This was in the 2000s, and was overt systemic racism.
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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3489 on: September 16, 2020, 09:28:09 PM »
Ffs, but do you have just zero self-awareness at all?

I feel like I'm giving your posts the responses they deserve but please, finish your thought.
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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3490 on: September 18, 2020, 02:52:26 PM »
How about inserting himself into the Trayvon Martin case before the facts were known? Saying "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon", while the media showed a picture of Trayvon at 12 and doctored the 911 calls. It went on that way for a year before the televised court case when the lawyers demonstrated how Martin was a bigger man than Zimmerman and bashing his head into the sidewalk.

So you're on Zimmerman's side? 

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3491 on: September 19, 2020, 08:55:04 AM »
of course. a grown derriere 30 year old man who was playing neighborhood watch and was told not to accost trayvon martin, who was doing nothing, ends up accosting him only to get his derriere beat and shoot himself in 'self - defense'. this is IS's reality.

trayvon martin was absolutely bigger than george zimmerman. zimmerman outweighed trayvon martin by 100 pounds. adds up.

 

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3492 on: September 19, 2020, 08:57:50 AM »
not surprised to see IS stand up for george zimmerman being an absolute pvssy rather than admit that targeted profiling and systemic racism against blacks is an actual thing.

there is literally no pointing talking to him about this excrement anymore. 

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3493 on: September 19, 2020, 09:21:46 AM »
trayvon martin was absolutely bigger than george zimmerman. zimmerman outweighed trayvon martin by 100 pounds. adds up.

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Re: #BlackLivesMatter
« Reply #3494 on: September 19, 2020, 09:38:06 AM »
I feel like I'm giving your posts the responses they deserve but please, finish your thought.

No need. The idea that you're going to accuse others of engaging in a circle jerk when its the same five douchebags who descend onto the heretic and act positively outraged when their worldview is challenged is hilarious.

not surprised to see IS stand up for george zimmerman being an absolute pvssy rather than admit that targeted profiling and systemic racism against blacks is an actual thing.

there is literally no pointing talking to him about this excrement anymore.

Lol let me understand this.

George Zimmerman, a hispanic layperson proves that there's systemic racism with white cops against blacks? Ok.

Reminder that for every Trayvon Martin situation where it isn't black and white as to what happened, or for even more clear cut incidents of flat out murder like Philando Castille that people STILL parrot the "hands up dont shoot lie' and act as though Ferguson was anything but a cop defending himself from a combative suspect going for his gun.